Quote: sodawaterDone. If the Wizard finishes above 75.000%, I pay what you would owe to him. (Or just pay it directly to Wizard if he wins, at your discretion.)
If the Wizard finishes 75.000% or below, you pay me what you would owe to Wizard in addition to you paying the actual winner.
Congratulations to Wizard for an outstanding season, and still winning despite my "Brady Bunch goes to Hawaii Tiki Curse" backing him to go over 75%.
Sodawater, congratulations on the win. Please PM me with your payment preference. I expect Wizard's info will be posted or PM'd. Thanks again to Ed and Mission for pulling the heavy weight this season.
Quote: wudgedIs there a PayPal address or how does Wizard want payment?
I will be giving the winnings to the active admins who worked for free during all of 2014. Mission will be collecting the winnings and distributing shares to the others. Mission and BBB will also be given immunity for having to pay their own losses. So, please wait for Mission's instructions on making payment.
Quote: Mission146Genwyzgy
GB -7
NYG -3
STL +12.5
SF -6 Confidence
CHI OVER 44
[sarcasm]Gee, I'm sure glad I got those picks in![/sarcasm]
I had finally worked my way up to .500 a few weeks ago, only to see everything come crashing down at the end.
I'd like to thank everyone for playing this game again, and I hope to get my advertising done earlier to attract more players.
I'm also going to be setting up another Playoff Game for this year, open to all, but only those who participated in this game will receive any PM's, but feel free to tell whoever you like. I'll be putting up $25.00 on the game, and I'm just tinkering with some Rules.
Since the playoff games are pretty short (four weeks), it's pretty tough to come up with something that balances awarding good Picks with keeping people mathematically in the game for a decent span of time, but I'm going to try to do that.
I'll send out details, via PM, for payment arrangements, and thanks to the Wizard for generously distributing his winnings! I had a problem with Paypal, so I don't presently have a Paypal, but I'll see if I can set one up if that would be easier.
The 2015 Playoff Picks Game format and Rules have been posted:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/20492-wov-playoff-picks-game-2015-official-thread/#post420358
I think it's almost going to be as much luck as skillful Picking, but since the $25 I am posting up is the only money moving either way, we'll just have some fun with it.
Quote: steeldcoMission, for whatever it's worth, I find Paypal easiest to use. But I'll abide by whatever you would like.
I believe most people feel that way, so TeddyS was kind enough to set it up such that I can have everyone who wishes to use PayPal send the money to his Paypal account. I'll be sending that information out, via PM, with the Playoff Picks Game invites later tonight.
For those who do not wish to use PayPal, USPS Postal Money Order, Personal Check and (some) Gift Cards may be an acceptable alternative via mail, but at this point, I'd also prefer PayPal.
Quote: WizardI will be giving the winnings to the active admins who worked for free during all of 2014. Mission will be collecting the winnings and distributing shares to the others. Mission and BBB will also be given immunity for having to pay their own losses. So, please wait for Mission's instructions on making payment.
Very cool of you Wizard!
I wanted to update this thread with everyone who, to the best of my knowledge, has paid:
PAID
Mission146: WAIVED
BeachBumBabs: WAIVED
Miplet
GWAE
Paradigm
Wudged
10DollarBri
JW17
JML24
AyeCarumba
Sodawater (Via AyeCarumba-Side Bet)
EdCollins
Committed
Beardgoat
Have Not Heard From
Anyone Else---It's only been a few days and some PM's have not even been opened.
NOTE
If you have sent the payment via Paypal, and did not PM me that you did so, please send such PM to me.
FINAL Results:
Name | Wins | Losses | % | Owes |
---|---|---|---|---|
Wizard | 56 | 24 | 70.00% | - |
JohnZimbo | 62 | 31 | 66.67% | $3.33 |
VCUSkyhawk (out early via 3 byes) | 16 | 8 | 66.67% | $3.33 |
Buzzard (withdrew early) | 14 | 10 | 58.33% | $11.67 |
Wudged | 57 | 43 | 57.00% | $13.00 |
Paradigm | 50 | 38 | 56.82% | $13.18 |
Steeldco | 49 | 41 | 54.44% | $15.56 |
MWalz9 | 44 | 38 | 53.66% | $16.34 |
EdCollins | 46 | 40 | 53.49% | $16.51 |
Terapined | 42 | 38 | 52.50% | $17.50 |
YouCanBetOnThat | 43 | 40 | 51.81% | $18.19 |
Aluisio | 47 | 44 | 51.65% | $18.35 |
RDW4Potus | 38 | 36 | 51.35% | $18.65 |
StrictlyAP | 45 | 44 | 50.56% | $19.44 |
10DollarBri | 46 | 46 | 50.00% | $20.00 |
JW17 | 44 | 44 | 50.00% | $20.00 |
Mission146 | 40 | 41 | 49.38% | $25.00 |
Miplet | 42 | 44 | 48.84% | $21.16 |
SodaWater | 44 | 50 | 46.81% | $23.19 |
KMUMF | 38 | 44 | 46.34% | $23.66 |
Genwyzgy | 41 | 48 | 46.07% | $23.93 |
TGarrettCPA | 40 | 47 | 45.98% | $24.02 |
AyeCarumba | 40 | 51 | 43.96% | $26.04 |
Malaru (out early via 3 byes) | 17 | 22 | 43.59% | $25.00 |
JML24 | 37 | 48 | 43.53% | $26.47 |
Beardgoat | 39 | 51 | 43.33% | $26.67 |
Ten2Win | 39 | 51 | 43.33% | $26.67 |
Vendman1 (out early via 3 byes) | 15 | 24 | 38.46% | $25.00 |
BeachBumBabs (withdrew early) | 17 | 29 | 36.96% | $25.00 |
GWAE (withdrew early) | 13 | 27 | 32.50% | $25.00 |
Totals | 1,161 | 1,142 | 50.41% | $571.87 |
Quote: teddysHow much would the Wizard have won (return %) if he had bet $100 on every game according to his picks?
Making the assumption they were all bet at at price of -110, he would have won $5600-$2400-$240=$2960. This is a return of 37% of the total amount he theoretically would have bet.
Quote: Paradigm... but I am hoping the NFL season was very good to you and it should have been based on your top picks which I assume you used here.
My strategy in the contest and the half-point parlay cards is very similar, and I did quite well with those this year, and last year. However, my money line bets on underdogs didn't do too well. All things considered, I'm about even this season.
Just for the record, I'm not trying to pressure anyone, or anything...it's just the record keeping has left something to be desired the last couple years with both winners saying they don't think they were paid in full...but not necessarily who didn't pay...and no pays aren't supposed to play again.
Greetings!
I wanted to update this thread with everyone who, to the best of my knowledge, has paid:
PAID
Mission146: WAIVED
BeachBumBabs: WAIVED
Miplet
GWAE
Paradigm
Wudged
10DollarBri
JW17
JML24
AyeCarumba
Sodawater (Via AyeCarumba-Side Bet)
EdCollins
Terapined
JohnZimbo
KMUMF
TgarrettCPA
Committed
Beardgoat
Have Not Heard From
Anyone Else---It's only been a few days and some PM's have not even been opened.
NOTE
If you have sent the payment via Paypal, and did not PM me that you did so, please send such PM to me.
FINAL Results:
Name | Wins | Losses | % | Owes |
---|---|---|---|---|
Wizard | 56 | 24 | 70.00% | - |
JohnZimbo | 62 | 31 | 66.67% | $3.33 |
VCUSkyhawk (out early via 3 byes) | 16 | 8 | 66.67% | $3.33 |
Buzzard (withdrew early) | 14 | 10 | 58.33% | $11.67 |
Wudged | 57 | 43 | 57.00% | $13.00 |
Paradigm | 50 | 38 | 56.82% | $13.18 |
Steeldco | 49 | 41 | 54.44% | $15.56 |
MWalz9 | 44 | 38 | 53.66% | $16.34 |
EdCollins | 46 | 40 | 53.49% | $16.51 |
Terapined | 42 | 38 | 52.50% | $17.50 |
YouCanBetOnThat | 43 | 40 | 51.81% | $18.19 |
Aluisio | 47 | 44 | 51.65% | $18.35 |
RDW4Potus | 38 | 36 | 51.35% | $18.65 |
StrictlyAP | 45 | 44 | 50.56% | $19.44 |
10DollarBri | 46 | 46 | 50.00% | $20.00 |
JW17 | 44 | 44 | 50.00% | $20.00 |
Mission146 | 40 | 41 | 49.38% | $25.00 |
Miplet | 42 | 44 | 48.84% | $21.16 |
SodaWater | 44 | 50 | 46.81% | $23.19 |
KMUMF | 38 | 44 | 46.34% | $23.66 |
Genwyzgy | 41 | 48 | 46.07% | $23.93 |
TGarrettCPA | 40 | 47 | 45.98% | $24.02 |
AyeCarumba | 40 | 51 | 43.96% | $26.04 |
Malaru (out early via 3 byes) | 17 | 22 | 43.59% | $25.00 |
JML24 | 37 | 48 | 43.53% | $26.47 |
Beardgoat | 39 | 51 | 43.33% | $26.67 |
Ten2Win | 39 | 51 | 43.33% | $26.67 |
Vendman1 (out early via 3 byes) | 15 | 24 | 38.46% | $25.00 |
BeachBumBabs (withdrew early) | 17 | 29 | 36.96% | $25.00 |
GWAE (withdrew early) | 13 | 27 | 32.50% | $25.00 |
Totals | 1,161 | 1,142 | 50.41% | $571.87 |
Just for the record, I'm not trying to pressure anyone, or anything...it's just the record keeping has left something to be desired the last couple years with both winners saying they don't think they were paid in full...but not necessarily who didn't pay...and no pays aren't supposed to play again.
Greetings!
I wanted to update this thread with everyone who, to the best of my knowledge, has paid:
PAID
Mission146: WAIVED
BeachBumBabs: WAIVED
Miplet
GWAE
Paradigm
Wudged
10DollarBri
JW17
JML24
AyeCarumba
Sodawater (Via AyeCarumba-Side Bet)
EdCollins
Terapined
JohnZimbo
KMUMF
TgarrettCPA
Beardgoat
Genwyzgy
Youcanbetonthat
Ten2Win
Steeldco
Committed
Have Not Heard From
VCUSkyhawk
Buzzard
Steeldco
Aluisio
RDW4Potus
StrictlyAP
Malaru
Vendman1
NOTE
If you have sent the payment via Paypal, and did not PM me that you did so, please send such PM to me.
FINAL Results:
Name | Wins | Losses | % | Owes |
---|---|---|---|---|
Wizard | 56 | 24 | 70.00% | - |
JohnZimbo | 62 | 31 | 66.67% | $3.33 |
VCUSkyhawk (out early via 3 byes) | 16 | 8 | 66.67% | $3.33 |
Buzzard (withdrew early) | 14 | 10 | 58.33% | $11.67 |
Wudged | 57 | 43 | 57.00% | $13.00 |
Paradigm | 50 | 38 | 56.82% | $13.18 |
Steeldco | 49 | 41 | 54.44% | $15.56 |
MWalz9 | 44 | 38 | 53.66% | $16.34 |
EdCollins | 46 | 40 | 53.49% | $16.51 |
Terapined | 42 | 38 | 52.50% | $17.50 |
YouCanBetOnThat | 43 | 40 | 51.81% | $18.19 |
Aluisio | 47 | 44 | 51.65% | $18.35 |
RDW4Potus | 38 | 36 | 51.35% | $18.65 |
StrictlyAP | 45 | 44 | 50.56% | $19.44 |
10DollarBri | 46 | 46 | 50.00% | $20.00 |
JW17 | 44 | 44 | 50.00% | $20.00 |
Mission146 | 40 | 41 | 49.38% | $25.00 |
Miplet | 42 | 44 | 48.84% | $21.16 |
SodaWater | 44 | 50 | 46.81% | $23.19 |
KMUMF | 38 | 44 | 46.34% | $23.66 |
Genwyzgy | 41 | 48 | 46.07% | $23.93 |
TGarrettCPA | 40 | 47 | 45.98% | $24.02 |
AyeCarumba | 40 | 51 | 43.96% | $26.04 |
Malaru (out early via 3 byes) | 17 | 22 | 43.59% | $25.00 |
JML24 | 37 | 48 | 43.53% | $26.47 |
Beardgoat | 39 | 51 | 43.33% | $26.67 |
Ten2Win | 39 | 51 | 43.33% | $26.67 |
Vendman1 (out early via 3 byes) | 15 | 24 | 38.46% | $25.00 |
BeachBumBabs (withdrew early) | 17 | 29 | 36.96% | $25.00 |
GWAE (withdrew early) | 13 | 27 | 32.50% | $25.00 |
Totals | 1,161 | 1,142 | 50.41% | $571.87 |
IF I were a third party reading this thread, who had played and owed money, I think knowing my money was ending up in Babs' pocket after she lost badly enough to withdraw midway, would stick a little. The Wiz says he's giving his winnings to the other mods, the board says my debt was waived.
So, what you don't know yet is that when the Wiz asked me before he announced his generous offer, I said no thanks, both for my own reasons and because I didn't think it was right for me to end up with your winnings. I did ask him to waive my lost bet if he was so inclined, which he did, because I thought that was a fair result for me from his generosity.
Mission was not in the same boat, because the rules limited both his exposure, and as commissioner, he couldn't win outright. He also played to the end.
Face was not in the same boat, because he didn't play.
Please don't become a Lemmie on this board if you had an issue with me getting money from the game. I'm not getting paid.
I would have much rather have the payments being sent to myself! In all honesty I don't care who gets the money. I knew at the start of the game that anybody who joined the game could win, and therefore my money could have been going to any member. If someone is really upset that their money is being donated to the Mods then they probably have way too much time on their hands and need to find another hobby other than gambling.
Quote: beachbumbabs... I'm not getting paid.
I don't get it. One doesn't have anything to do with the other.
You're getting recognized for your work as an Adm. That's more than fine. It makes no difference that you played the game and ended up withdrawing. That's irrelevant.
Furthermore, it shouldn't make any difference to all of us who played and lost WHO ends up with the money. WE lost it... who gets it should also be irrelevant and immaterial.
Quote: BeardgoatI'll come out and say it. I'm pretty upset that my money ended being used to pay out the MODS!
I would have much rather have the payments being sent to myself! In all honesty I don't care who gets the money. I knew at the start of the game that anybody who joined the game could win, and therefore my money could have been going to any member. If someone is really upset that their money is being donated to the Mods then they probably have way too much time on their hands and need to find another hobby other than gambling.
lol...thanks for the laugh.
Quote: EdCollinsI don't get it. One doesn't have anything to do with the other.
You're getting recognized for your work as an Adm. That's more than fine. It makes no difference that you played the game and ended up withdrawing. That's irrelevant.
Furthermore, it shouldn't make any difference to all of us who played and lost WHO ends up with the money. WE lost it... who gets it should also be irrelevant and immaterial.
Agreed
I will say I very much enjoy this cheap entertainment. (Cheap as in I can't lose a lot of $$ not that the contest is cheap, I've lost a whole $28 the last 2 years a entire $28 for 104 weeks of entertainment)
I will continue to play. I just hope the contest is much tighter like last year instead of like this year, but who am I to sh*t on the Wiz going 70%
My point is I thought this was for fun, not about who gets paid
Quote: BeardgoatI'll come out and say it. I'm pretty upset that my money ended being used to pay out the MODS!
Either way I get &#$@ kicked in my face.
First I got criticized for not sharing any money from the sale of my Wizard sales to the mods, despite the fact this site has never made anywhere near the expense that went into creating it. Plus, I may or may not have done favors for some of the mods. That is nobody else's business.
Then, when I share my contest winnings with the mods, which are mine to do with as I please, I get criticized that the mods are getting something.
If you lost, what difference does it make who gets your money? YOU LOST!
Excuse me, I need a drink.
Quote: Wizard
Excuse me, I need a drink.
Me too SIP
Quote: WizardEither way I get &#$@ kicked in my face.
First I got criticized for not sharing any money from the sale of my Wizard sales to the mods, despite the fact this site has never made anywhere near the expense that went into creating it. Plus, I may or may not have done favors for some of the mods. That is nobody else's business.
Then, when I share my contest winnings with the mods, which are mine to do with as I please, I get criticized that the mods are getting something.
If you lost, what difference does it make who gets your money? YOU LOST!
Excuse me, I need a drink.
Breath, Mike. Read the rest post.
Quote: WizardEither way I get &#$@ kicked in my face.
First I got criticized for not sharing any money from the sale of my Wizard sales to the mods, despite the fact this site has never made anywhere near the expense that went into creating it. Plus, I may or may not have done favors for some of the mods. That is nobody else's business.
Then, when I share my contest winnings with the mods, which are mine to do with as I please, I get criticized that the mods are getting something.
If you lost, what difference does it make who gets your money? YOU LOST!
Excuse me, I need a drink.
I think Beard meant to be sarcastic, Mike, mocking those that would have the issue with it. The first sentence was sarcasm, I think, based on the rest of what he said.
Your generosity was much appreciated. Truly.
Just for the record, I'm not trying to pressure anyone, or anything...it's just the record keeping has left something to be desired the last couple years with both winners saying they don't think they were paid in full...but not necessarily who didn't pay...and no pays aren't supposed to play again.
Greetings!
I wanted to update this thread with everyone who, to the best of my knowledge, has paid:
PAID
Mission146: WAIVED
BeachBumBabs: WAIVED
Miplet
GWAE
Paradigm
Wudged
10DollarBri
JW17
JML24
AyeCarumba
Sodawater (Via AyeCarumba-Side Bet)
EdCollins
Terapined
JohnZimbo
KMUMF
TgarrettCPA
Beardgoat
Genwyzgy
Youcanbetonthat
Ten2Win
Steeldco
StrictlyAP
Vendman1
Aluisio
Committed
Have Not Heard From
VCUSkyhawk
Buzzard
RDW4Potus
Malaru
NOTE
If you have sent the payment via Paypal, and did not PM me that you did so, please send such PM to me.
FINAL Results:
Name | Wins | Losses | % | Owes |
---|---|---|---|---|
Wizard | 56 | 24 | 70.00% | - |
JohnZimbo | 62 | 31 | 66.67% | $3.33 |
VCUSkyhawk (out early via 3 byes) | 16 | 8 | 66.67% | $3.33 |
Buzzard (withdrew early) | 14 | 10 | 58.33% | $11.67 |
Wudged | 57 | 43 | 57.00% | $13.00 |
Paradigm | 50 | 38 | 56.82% | $13.18 |
Steeldco | 49 | 41 | 54.44% | $15.56 |
MWalz9 | 44 | 38 | 53.66% | $16.34 |
EdCollins | 46 | 40 | 53.49% | $16.51 |
Terapined | 42 | 38 | 52.50% | $17.50 |
YouCanBetOnThat | 43 | 40 | 51.81% | $18.19 |
Aluisio | 47 | 44 | 51.65% | $18.35 |
RDW4Potus | 38 | 36 | 51.35% | $18.65 |
StrictlyAP | 45 | 44 | 50.56% | $19.44 |
10DollarBri | 46 | 46 | 50.00% | $20.00 |
JW17 | 44 | 44 | 50.00% | $20.00 |
Mission146 | 40 | 41 | 49.38% | $25.00 |
Miplet | 42 | 44 | 48.84% | $21.16 |
SodaWater | 44 | 50 | 46.81% | $23.19 |
KMUMF | 38 | 44 | 46.34% | $23.66 |
Genwyzgy | 41 | 48 | 46.07% | $23.93 |
TGarrettCPA | 40 | 47 | 45.98% | $24.02 |
AyeCarumba | 40 | 51 | 43.96% | $26.04 |
Malaru (out early via 3 byes) | 17 | 22 | 43.59% | $25.00 |
JML24 | 37 | 48 | 43.53% | $26.47 |
Beardgoat | 39 | 51 | 43.33% | $26.67 |
Ten2Win | 39 | 51 | 43.33% | $26.67 |
Vendman1 (out early via 3 byes) | 15 | 24 | 38.46% | $25.00 |
BeachBumBabs (withdrew early) | 17 | 29 | 36.96% | $25.00 |
GWAE (withdrew early) | 13 | 27 | 32.50% | $25.00 |
Totals | 1,161 | 1,142 | 50.41% | $571.87 |
Quote: steeldcoIs this going to be run again this year?
Glad you asked; my clock was ticking as well...Mission146?