Half Point Parlay Cards
When Suncoast cut you off at two, did they let you pick which two?
Quote: KeyserSozeWhen Suncoast cut you off at two, did they let you pick which two?
No. What happened was the first two went through, albeit with some delay. With the third, I heard the dreaded phone ring. It has happened before. The Gold Coast oversees all sports betting of the Boyd casinos. As before, it was somebody from the GC saying "no more." Unless they have cameras, I highly doubt they placed my face.
So I got only the two that were previously issued.
Lot of action on the underdog money lines tomorrow:
Jets +230
Falcons +625
Oakland +475
Jaguars +450
Browns +265
Texans +260
Rams +475
Chiefs +400
Bucs +525
Bills +330
Cowboys +235
Ravens +250
Quote: Wizard
Lot of action on the underdog money lines tomorrow:
Jets +230
Falcons +625
Oakland +475
Jaguars +450
Browns +265
Texans +260
Rams +475
Chiefs +400
Bucs +525
Bills +330
Cowboys +235
Ravens +250
Wish my local book would offer Falcons +625. I suspect this is a typo.
Hope you (we) have a good day tomorrow. I'm on a bunch of dogs too.
Quote: KeyserSozeWish my local book would offer Falcons +625. I suspect this is a typo.
Oops. That was an ticket from last week. Thanks for the correction.
I went over to Fremont from the Chicago Brew Pub at Four Queens looking to run a few hundred dollars worth of half-point parlay cards for Wizard. The guy whose job it is to run the tickets through the machine looked at a few of the tickets, I hadn't said anything, and looks back up at me and says, "Excuse me."
I nodded and he walked over to a guy who I don't remember much about except that he was bigger, perhaps my height, with facial hair.
The second guy said, "We don't accept Round Robins, here, buddy."
I replied, "What's a Round Robin? I don't understand what you mean. I'm just taking a shot! The D just took the same bet!"
He reiterated, "Well, this is a Round Robin, and don't ever come in here and try this again," then he ripped the bet cards in half and threw them in the trash.
"Scared to bet me? Cowards!"
That's it, they couldn't have known me because I had never made a Sports Bet there in my entire life.
For what it is worth, saying "I'm taking a shot" is not something often said in a Vegas casino to casino staff. It means to play a dirty trick, that some would call a light form of cheating. For example, in blackjack deliberately making a vague hand signal and then arguing it if how the dealer interpreted it doesn't go you way, and keeping quiet if it does.
When I worked at the Venetian I heard the term "shot taker" from the dealers a lot.
Quote: WizardThanks for sharing the above story and again I'm sorry to have put you through that.
Not at all, I thought it was hilarious!
Quote:For what it is worth, saying "I'm taking a shot" is not something often said in a Vegas casino to casino staff. It means to play a dirty trick, that some would call a light form of cheating. For example, in blackjack deliberately making a vague hand signal and then arguing it if how the dealer interpreted it doesn't go you way, and keeping quiet if it does.
When I worked at the Venetian I heard the term "shot taker" from the dealers a lot.
Oops!
I just meant it as, "It's a long-shot for me to win on these tickets, but if I do, it'll be huge."
KC +2.5, SD +7.5, SF -2.5, Phi/NO UND 54.5, Cin/SD Over 46.5, SF/GB under 48.5. Normally I don't bother looking at the over/under, but I had to add some more picks to the bet.
Quote: WizardKC +2.5, SD +7.5, SF -2.5, Phi/NO UND 54.5, Cin/SD Over 46.5, SF/GB under 48.5.
Two down, four to go.
Quote: NokTangThanks again for posting a card we can print and play for fun. Much appreciated by your SouthEastAsian based members.
You're welcome. Here is a chance to repay the favor. Can you, or anybody else outside of the US and Canada, tell me what advertising banners you see on my Wizard of Odds site.
Quote: WizardTwo down, four to go.
You're welcome. Here is a chance to repay the favor. Can you, or anybody else outside of the US and Canada, tell me what advertising banners you see on my Wizard of Odds site.
Pulling up your site from here in South Korea- I see no advertising banners at all.
Quote: EdgeLookerPulling up your site from here in South Korea- I see no advertising banners at all.
Thank you.
Quote: WizardTwo down, four to go.
You're welcome. Here is a chance to repay the favor. Can you, or anybody else outside of the US and Canada, tell me what advertising banners you see on my Wizard of Odds site.
From Thailand, where winter lasted two weeks and it is now hot and humid again....
On this site, I see the Bodog banner top and bottom. On the odds site, no advertisements. Good luck.
Quote: WizardI made only one 6-leg parlay on:
KC +2.5, SD +7.5, SF -2.5, Phi/NO UND 54.5, Cin/SD Over 46.5, SF/GB under 48.5.
The most painful outcome, 5 out of 6. The only leg I blew was Cin/SD over 46.5. That'll teach me to ever bet on an over.
The screenshot is from my iPhone. It operates (and is sold) in Brazil, but my phone was bought in the US and I have an american apple account.
Quote: WizardThe most painful outcome, 5 out of 6. The only leg I blew was Cin/SD over 46.5. That'll teach me to ever bet on an over.
Ironic, as you took under in our playoff picks
Quote: WizardThe most painful outcome, 5 out of 6. The only leg I blew was Cin/SD over 46.5. That'll teach me to ever bet on an over.
The most painful outcome is when you go 5/6 on the last leg and lose by half a pt.
Quote: WizardThe most painful outcome, 5 out of 6. The only leg I blew was Cin/SD over 46.5. That'll teach me to ever bet on an over.
Tough break Wizard. Bengals could have easily scored at the end of the game to send it OVER. If I remember right, the game ended with Cincinnati inside the 10 yard line.
Quote: BeardgoatIronic, as you took under in our playoff picks
I had under 47 in the WoV contest. 47 is a very common total in the NFL, I think the second or third most frequent, which I wanted to seize by going over 46.5.
Quote: KeyserSozeTough break Wizard. Bengals could have easily scored at the end of the game to send it OVER. If I remember right, the game ended with Cincinnati inside the 10 yard line.
Even if bengals scored it would have been 27-17. Still not enough to cover
| Half with More Points | Count | Percentage |
|---|---|---|
| First | 1849 | 49.87% |
| Second | 1725 | 46.52% |
| Tie | 134 | 3.61% |
| Total | 3708 | 100.00% |
So, if we give the extra half point to the second half, causing it to win on ties, then the second half to win 50.13% of the time.
Quote: BeardgoatEven if bengals scored it would have been 27-17. Still not enough to cover
You're right. Don't know what the hell I was thinking? Perhaps I was drinking too much that day?
[face in hands, shaking back and forth]
To get us started, here is the William Hill card for week 1. With all my posts on this topic, click on an image for a larger version.
I put started out slow with about ten cards at $20 each at Hooters. They went right through.
Given the lines right now, here are the hot plays:
Saints -2.5
Steelers -6.5
Bills +7.5
Dolphins +4.5
Vikings +3.5
Jaguars +10.5
Texans -2.5
Hope to hit a couple more places today.
Quote: WizardReady for a new season of Half Point Parlay Cards? I don't know about you, but I'm rip roaring and ready to go.
To get us started, here is the William Hill card for week 1. With all my posts on this topic, click on an image for a larger version.
I put started out slow with about ten cards at $20 each at Hooters. They went right through.
Given the lines right now, here are the hot plays:
Saints -2.5
Steelers -6.5
Bills +7.5
Dolphins +4.5
Vikings +3.5
Jaguars +10.5
Texans -2.5
Hope to hit a couple more places today.
Thanks Wiz. I will be hitting Vegas next week. Gonna take a shot at this next week.
Hopefully you will post the hot plays for next week :-)
Gonna take a shot at several cards and do some correlated card picks.
I included a lot of BYU +2.5. Currently -1 or -1.5 elsewhere. I know it's not 3 or 7 but you are passing through 2-3 (2.5?) other key numbers. 2, 1 and 1. I've heard key numbers matter less in college, but that seems pretty nice to me. Though looking at the chart for the NFL now, those 3 numbers add up to 11.5% which beats 7 but is still less than the 15.7% for 3.
Would they ever take a number like that out of play or do they only do it when there is an injury or something along those lines?
Included, Bills, Steelers and Texans on many of the cards.
Boyd has the fins +5.5. They also have The Falcons +3.5, which I prefer to the Saints -2.5 . My sources* tell me that the Saints side is all public money, with something like 80% of the tickets.
I ran seven tickets through with no problem. Total was $240 I think.
*Guys on the radio.
Quote: RigondeauxI included a lot of BYU +2.5. Currently -1 or -1.5 elsewhere. I know it's not 3 or 7 but you are passing through 2-3 (2.5?) other key numbers. 2, 1 and 1. I've heard key numbers matter less in college, but that seems pretty nice to me. Though looking at the chart for the NFL now, those 3 numbers add up to 11.5% which beats 7 but is still less than the 15.7% for 3.
I should do a formal study of the value of getting a half point in college football. However, I can easily say right now it is much less than in the NFL. As you wrote, the key numbers are much more significant in the NFL. As for BYU, crossing the 2 isn't that valuable. It isn't a common margin of victory. I would only consider getting -2.5 or +3.5 off a 3-point spread in college, and even then I still wouldn't, but that is just going off an educated guess.
Quote: WizardI should do a formal study of the value of getting a half point in college football.
I'd be interested in that. I suspect it might matter more at the smaller numbers. And maybe towards the end of the season. The total % of college games that land on key numbers probably doesn't really matter much, because when Alabama are 142 point favorites over Southeastern Mississippi Barber College, the key numbers are never really in play. It only matters how often they hit in games where the spread is somewhat close. I guess it REALLY only matters when the key number is a factor in your bet.
Early in the season, the general consensus about teams is probably wrong a lot more than in the pros because of the heavy turnover in players and coaches and maybe a little because of inter-conference games. You probably have more games that are thought to be close turn out to be blow outs. Later in the season, I'd think the oddsmakers and bettors are both more accurate.
BYU up six at the half!
Quote: NokTangWizard, thanks for posting the card(s). For some reason, when I click on this most recent one, the image isn't very clear. Last season we could clearly read the cards after said click. Thank you for reviewing this.
I'm not sure what to say about that. I am using the same scanner.
RE: Betting college games.
Quote: RigondeauxI'd be interested in that. I suspect it might matter more at the smaller numbers. And maybe towards the end of the season. The total % of college games that land on key numbers probably doesn't really matter much, because when Alabama are 142 point favorites over Southeastern Mississippi Barber College, the key numbers are never really in play. It only matters how often they hit in games where the spread is somewhat close. I guess it REALLY only matters when the key number is a factor in your bet.
I'm in the middle of doing a whole page on college football, which will include a look at the value of getting the half point. For parlay card purposes, I think it is worth doing off 3 only, and 7 if trying to get to 5 picks. More to come.
As for week 1, I hit 5 out 7 of my picks, but the 5 winners alone were not one of the tickets.
Here is the card from the South Point family and Boyd/Coast casinos.
The hot picks are:
Panthers -2.5
Vikings +3.5
Bears +7.5
Eagles +3.5
You'll have to mix in some more to get to at least 5.
I don't like to handicap, but I threw Ravens -2.5 into a lot of my cards. This is because:
1. Pinnacle has them on the favored side of 2.5, as follows:
Steelers +2.5 +103
Ravens -2.5 -114
2. I think the squares will overreact to the Ray Rice news, thinking the Ravens won't be able to concentrate, and thus betting on the Steelers. I poo-poo all such psychological reasons for making a bet.
Quote: Wizard2. I think the squares will overreact to the Ray Rice news, thinking the Ravens won't be able to concentrate, and thus betting on the Steelers. I poo-poo all such psychological reasons for making a bet.
Do you remember the Dolphins-Bucs game last year? Particularly the first half?
I'm not saying that you are wrong (I have the Ravens too); just that these things CAN have an impact.
Quote: WizardI'm not sure what to say about that. I am using the same scanner.
RE: Betting college games.
I'm in the middle of doing a whole page on college football, which will include a look at the value of getting the half point. For parlay card purposes, I think it is worth doing off 3 only, and 7 if trying to get to 5 picks. More to come.
As for week 1, I hit 5 out 7 of my picks, but the 5 winners alone were not one of the tickets.
Here is the card from the South Point family and Boyd/Coast casinos.
The hot picks are:
Panthers -2.5
Vikings +3.5
Bears +7.5
Eagles +3.5
You'll have to mix in some more to get to at least 5.
I don't like to handicap, but I threw Ravens -2.5 into a lot of my cards. This is because:
1. Pinnacle has them on the favored side of 2.5, as follows:
Steelers +2.5 +103
Ravens -2.5 -114
2. I think the squares will overreact to the Ray Rice news, thinking the Ravens won't be able to concentrate, and thus betting on the Steelers. I poo-poo all such psychological reasons for making a bet.
Thanks, I will be in Vegas this weekend to bet on these 1/2 point parlay cards.
Was hoping you would post your picks.
Looking forward to my trip :-)
I'm glad I took them but I must admit that I was nervous about that pick. I picked it for reason #1 that you gave (the Pinnacle line). That is basically my strategy now -- I have realized that I am crap at picking games so I assume that the Pinnacle line is better than anything that I could come up with.
Quote: WizardI don't like to handicap, but I threw Ravens -2.5 into a lot of my cards.
I told you so.
Quote: mcallister3200Given the unfortunate case regarding Adrian Peterson, patriots -3.5 instead of Vikings +3.5 looks like an obvious change. Pinnacle has it at -5 now.
When there is a big line move they often don't allow you to pick that game.
Quote: mcallister3200Given the unfortunate case regarding Adrian Peterson, patriots -3.5 instead of Vikings +3.5 looks like an obvious change. Pinnacle has it at -5 now.
Money will pour in on the Patriots. If there ever was a good early season lock it would be the Vikings. The mob isn't going to take a huge hit like this.
Quote: WizardWhen there is a big line move they often don't allow you to pick that game.
Four Queens , William Hill taking action on parlay cards with Pats still -3.5
Just made a 4 team parley 20 buck bet on the Wiz's picks.
May not be allowed in a 3 team parley.
The guy said the more teams you pick, better chance it goes through
Quote: AxiomOfChoicePinnacle has the line back at 3.5. In fact Min +3.5 is the favored side at -120 (with NE -3.5 +109) Interesting to watch this line move. Started at 3.5, went all the way to 6 after the news broke, then slowly pulled back to where it started.
Wow money is coming in on the Vikings. NE -3.5 +116 Min +3.5 -128 at Pinnacle.
Great opportunity for a middle if you got Min +5.5 or +6.
