Pacquiao Loses?
June 9th, 2012 at 10:08:51 PM
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Apparently Manny Pacquiao lost today to Bradley.
That's a shame, because I was going to pick Bradley at +310, but didn't because I didn't feel like depositing to Bovada.
But, what seems to be more a shame is the fact that Pacquiao destroyed Bradley on the two scorecards I saw online, but Bradley won the decision.
Boxing is dead, but this controversy should make the headlines for a few days at least.
That's a shame, because I was going to pick Bradley at +310, but didn't because I didn't feel like depositing to Bovada.
But, what seems to be more a shame is the fact that Pacquiao destroyed Bradley on the two scorecards I saw online, but Bradley won the decision.
Boxing is dead, but this controversy should make the headlines for a few days at least.
June 9th, 2012 at 10:16:53 PM
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Just leaving the arena....can't believe the outcome. Pacquiao dominated at least 8 rounds. Ridiculous. Guess we get a rematch November 10th. What do you know...more money.
The Bailey KO was one of the most vicious I have seen in quite a while though.
The Bailey KO was one of the most vicious I have seen in quite a while though.
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June 9th, 2012 at 10:17:48 PM
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I wanted to bet against Pacman too. I thought it was a pretty good fight. Boxing is tough to score. I didnt see thefight as one-sided.
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June 9th, 2012 at 10:18:14 PM
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Pacman no mo
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June 10th, 2012 at 12:30:18 AM
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Well at the end of the fight on the European exchanges Pacquiao was the winner 200:1, and was 100:1 going into the last round.
June 10th, 2012 at 1:26:16 AM
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Honestly, I'm glad Pacquiao lost. His fans are among the most annoying in sports next to Oregon Ducks fans.
How much do these fights cost? I have never been to any boxing match and don't plan to in the near future, but if I wanted to go how much would the following cost for something like last night fight:
A. Really bad nosebleed seats
B. Ringside (Even open to the general public?)
For both I expect there to be two prices, sticker price and ebay price please give both.
How much do these fights cost? I have never been to any boxing match and don't plan to in the near future, but if I wanted to go how much would the following cost for something like last night fight:
A. Really bad nosebleed seats
B. Ringside (Even open to the general public?)
For both I expect there to be two prices, sticker price and ebay price please give both.
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
June 10th, 2012 at 6:12:09 AM
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For Mayweather Mosley a couple of years back, I tried to make money scalping the tickets. There were supposed to be $150 tickets available as the cheapest tickets possible. Those were either non-existent, or sold out in 2 minutes. I ended up with $300 tickets. I made like $20 profit.
Floor tickets were between $1500 and $3000.
Floor tickets were between $1500 and $3000.
June 10th, 2012 at 6:38:46 AM
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Quote: FinsRuleFor Mayweather Mosley a couple of years back, I tried to make money scalping the tickets. There were supposed to be $150 tickets available as the cheapest tickets possible. Those were either non-existent, or sold out in 2 minutes. I ended up with $300 tickets. I made like $20 profit.
Floor tickets were between $1500 and $3000.
Thank you, and are floor tickets available to the general public or do you need a host / "connections"? By general public, I mean a "sizable" amount people had to wait in line for or whatever.
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
June 10th, 2012 at 6:59:12 AM
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Boxing used to be such a fantastic sport, and if the sport were left to the participants it still would be a fantastic sport. There have just been too many scorecards over the years where the scorecards told me different than what my eyes told me. I think the Tyson-Holyfield draw (not the bite fight) was the one that kind of got me out of the taking boxing seriously anymore. I would love for the sport to make a comeback, as at one point, a heavyweight championship fight was as big of a sporting event as there was, but sadly, I don't see it happening. Boxing has officially jumped the shark, and for it to make a comeback MMA will have to fall flat on its face.
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
June 10th, 2012 at 6:32:53 PM
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I think some of the worse floor seats were available to the public. Rows 1 & 2 werent. I'm sure a bunch were for high rollers also. Secondary market had a lot available.
June 10th, 2012 at 6:33:25 PM
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Another double post. Sorry.
June 10th, 2012 at 6:46:11 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleI think some of the worse floor seats were available to the public. Rows 1 & 2 werent. I'm sure a bunch were for high rollers also. Secondary market had a lot available.
Thank you for the information. I'm thinking it would be an excellent present for my dad one of these years... fly us to Vegas and get good seats.
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
June 10th, 2012 at 8:26:59 PM
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Floor seats last night in row b were $1,200 at face value. I had a friend who went
June 10th, 2012 at 9:10:25 PM
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Headlines keep asking "was it fixed" AG asked to investigate possibility of fight being fixed.
So who made the money and how much was made?
So who made the money and how much was made?
June 10th, 2012 at 10:08:43 PM
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I saw the fight, in a $200 "nosebleed seat," at the very top of the arena.
Fortunately there were big screen TVs to see what was going on.
I only gave two, maybe three rounds to Bradley.
It wasn't a great fight; it had its moments, but Pacquiao was the winner, based on what I saw and what I know about boxing, having followed the Sweet Science for many years.
Clearly the judge's decision was based on factors other than Reality: the Fix was in.
Who would benefit?
The folks who bet heavily on Bradley.
The judge's decision stunned me, and was clearly wrong; watch the fight for yourself when it comes on HBO and draw your own conclusions.
Manny landed a lot more punches, he connected more effectively on the ones he threw, and as usual he displayed great skill with combination punches.
Just a sad day for boxing, is all I can say.
Fortunately there were big screen TVs to see what was going on.
I only gave two, maybe three rounds to Bradley.
It wasn't a great fight; it had its moments, but Pacquiao was the winner, based on what I saw and what I know about boxing, having followed the Sweet Science for many years.
Clearly the judge's decision was based on factors other than Reality: the Fix was in.
Who would benefit?
The folks who bet heavily on Bradley.
The judge's decision stunned me, and was clearly wrong; watch the fight for yourself when it comes on HBO and draw your own conclusions.
Manny landed a lot more punches, he connected more effectively on the ones he threw, and as usual he displayed great skill with combination punches.
Just a sad day for boxing, is all I can say.
"What, me worry?"
June 11th, 2012 at 12:23:55 AM
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What were the post-time odds?
Did various Sports Books offer widely differing odds?
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I found this:
Odds: Pacquiao remains the clear favorite at -450, with Bradley the +325 dog. Mike Jones is at -550 to Randall Bailey's +375, Guillermo Rigondeaux -2250 vs. Teon Kennedy +950 and Jorge Arce -1800 vs. Jesus Rojas +850.
This means what?
450 points? Are there that many points in boxing???
450 d0llars?
Did various Sports Books offer widely differing odds?
...........................
I found this:
Odds: Pacquiao remains the clear favorite at -450, with Bradley the +325 dog. Mike Jones is at -550 to Randall Bailey's +375, Guillermo Rigondeaux -2250 vs. Teon Kennedy +950 and Jorge Arce -1800 vs. Jesus Rojas +850.
This means what?
450 points? Are there that many points in boxing???
450 d0llars?
June 11th, 2012 at 1:12:35 AM
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Quote: FleaStiffWhat were the post-time odds?
Did various Sports Books offer widely differing odds?
...........................
I found this:
Odds: Pacquiao remains the clear favorite at -450, with Bradley the +325 dog. Mike Jones is at -550 to Randall Bailey's +375, Guillermo Rigondeaux -2250 vs. Teon Kennedy +950 and Jorge Arce -1800 vs. Jesus Rojas +850.
This means what?
450 points? Are there that many points in boxing???
450 d0llars?
Sorry if you're asking something else, but in general -450 means 100 to 450 (550 for 450). +325 means 325 to 100 (425 for 325).
If said person wins**
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June 11th, 2012 at 2:56:01 AM
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We watch most pay per view over here in Asia for "free" in various bars. The "bars" don't pay either. They, at least the HBO and Showtime versions of pay per view are often shown on local TV cable systems as well. I refer specifically to Thailand. I actually have read that in the Philippines, it's delayed.
All that said, on good TV's, one has to think Pacman's delay of the start, claiming related to the NBA game, had something to do with it. He looked good but not great. Bradley looked crisp the whole fight. There were a lot of close rounds. Perhaps the judges were pissed about the wait for Pacman.
As has been pointed out, live is much different than on TV, if you have a decent seat. The judges sit I assume around the ring so their angle is going to be different for the most part.
All that said, on good TV's, one has to think Pacman's delay of the start, claiming related to the NBA game, had something to do with it. He looked good but not great. Bradley looked crisp the whole fight. There were a lot of close rounds. Perhaps the judges were pissed about the wait for Pacman.
As has been pointed out, live is much different than on TV, if you have a decent seat. The judges sit I assume around the ring so their angle is going to be different for the most part.
June 11th, 2012 at 9:53:29 PM
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I've heard this is one of the most controversial boxing decisions in years, maybe decades. Hopefully nobody bet on Pacquiao based on the advice given in my last radio show, by host Jason Been, to bet favorites at the last minute in big fights.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 12th, 2012 at 2:37:06 AM
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Quote: WizardI've heard this is one of the most controversial boxing decisions in years, maybe decades. Hopefully nobody bet on Pacquiao based on the advice given in my last radio show, by host Jason Been, to bet favorites at the last minute in big fights.
I was on Bradley, because it was "such a value," and because:
1. Reports of Pacman's marital problems were distracting him from his training regimen.
2. There was a LOT of announced betting patterns and passion in the betting that seemed to create value for the dog; with so many betting on feelings of nationalism, pride, going with the winner, etc. - almost tribal in a sense - instead of considering reports of marital problems and loss of training discipline, plus with Bradley sounding sharp and ready, I figured a close match here (and it was more of a nd than a clear win) could be a huge value.
3. Close matches are often botched or even swung by the judges.
Now Please note people, Mr. PaiGowDan did NOT pull an illicit advantage play outside the rules of the betting game, as using your brains that are within the rules of the game are a-okay-doakey. You read the press, form an opinion, and go to the book.
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June 12th, 2012 at 4:11:54 AM
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Quote: PaigowdanNow Please note people, Mr. PaiGowDan did NOT pull an illicit advantage play outside the rules of the betting game, as using your brains that are within the rules of the game are a-okay-doakey. You read the press, form an opinion, and go to the book.
So you read the press--you gathered information about the deck of cards in play, formed an opinion--there was an advantage to bet a certain way, and went to the book--placed a wager based on an edge.
Sounds about the same to me...
June 12th, 2012 at 12:47:55 PM
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I love the radio show and actually did follow Been's advice for a few bucks. However, a wise man once said, "It is not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet." I tend to agree.
I agreed with the logic and probably would have bet on Manny, anyway.
I agreed with the logic and probably would have bet on Manny, anyway.
June 12th, 2012 at 1:29:35 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanI was on Bradley, because it was "such a value," and because:
1. Reports of Pacman's marital problems were distracting him from his training regimen.
I was on Bradley for the same reasons but more so because of Manny's new commitment to his faith. He has been suspected of using questionable performance enhancements in the past. My thoughts were maybe his new and much publicized faith would somehow convict him if this was the case. However, during the fight he looked fast and sharp as always. If I had one critique it would be that his power was lacking. He hit Bradley with the straight left basically whenever he wanted. He hurt Bradley a couple times but it was nothing like the devastating power he delivered to previous opponents.
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June 12th, 2012 at 1:46:42 PM
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Quote: Paigowdan
Now Please note people, Mr. PaiGowDan did NOT pull an illicit advantage play outside the rules of the betting game, as using your brains that are within the rules of the game are a-okay-doakey. You read the press, form an opinion, and go to the book.
Liar! You know you called up the judges and fixed the match ;)
I was in the casino book throughout the fight, and when it was announced that Bradley had won, it was a collective WTF?!?
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
June 12th, 2012 at 2:19:11 PM
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Paigowdan : " as using your brains that are within the rules of the game are a-okay-doakey."
So I walk up to a SD bj game and bet the first 3 spots. It is a newly shuffled beck. My first hand is 2,5. I see the dealer has an Ace.
The dealers offers insurance. Then he adds that I can look at my other hands to decide if I want to insure them. My other 2 hands
are 3,5 and 2,4. If I buy insurance, am I cheating ??????
So I walk up to a SD bj game and bet the first 3 spots. It is a newly shuffled beck. My first hand is 2,5. I see the dealer has an Ace.
The dealers offers insurance. Then he adds that I can look at my other hands to decide if I want to insure them. My other 2 hands
are 3,5 and 2,4. If I buy insurance, am I cheating ??????
