sallyandmilt
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February 1st, 2010 at 4:17:23 PM permalink
I haven't seen any statistics about payouts at the airport slots. From casual observation on a number of times through (before we moved to Las Vegas) we seemed to have more luck ourselves and saw more other lucky people. Whether it is coincidence or not, it seems logical that machines would be set to higher payoffs there, since people arriving here are likely to consider themselves on the start of a lucky streak, a good attitude adjuster, and people leaving after leaving with less than they came with might leave in a better frame of mind when winning on their last try. (Sort of like having a terrific 18th hole after a lousy golf round - makes you want to come back.)

Just our thoughts, but wonder if there might be some validity to them.
wildqat
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February 1st, 2010 at 5:05:34 PM permalink
According to the Wizard's own (admittedly dated) survey, the airport slots are the worst in town.

Take from that what you will. :^)
DJTeddyBear
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February 1st, 2010 at 5:33:37 PM permalink
There are many schools of thought going on here.

For example, in a casino, it make sense to have the slots near the strip entrance rigged to pay and make a lot of noise to draw in other customers. On the other hand, having the loose machines there, may make too easy for a bettor to make a hit and run.

Similarly, the slots near the buffet may be rigged to pay to encourage people to finish eating and get back to work. On the other hand, it may pay less, since people may throw a quarter in while on line to get in. Think captive audience.


At the airport, you also have a captive audience. Most people playing are waiting to board an outbound flight.


Your theory about getting people off on a hot streak sounds interesting, but ask yourself this question: What does the owner of the airport slots care about a gambler's activity in the casinos?

I mean, that would be a logical idea only if the airport slots are run/owned by the LV Visitors Bureau or Chamber of Commerce, or even the airport itself. Something tells me it's a private concession. I.E. They pay rent to the airport, etc.
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February 1st, 2010 at 6:02:35 PM permalink
I stand by my survey linked to above that the slots at the airport are the tightest in the city. Captive audience + no competition = tight slots. I also have found that the theory that slots are loose by the doors, and tight were people are likely to linger, is just myth. My testing showed slots of a given denomination are set consistently throughout the casino. Some casinos seem to scatter some loose ones around randomly.
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pacomartin
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February 1st, 2010 at 6:17:39 PM permalink
Your idea about loose slots at the airport does make sense. It might have been a logical solution when they wrote the request for proposals. But the county auctioned off the rights to the highest bidder for this contract. So the slots are the tightest in town.

The man that owns the slot concession is Michael Gaughan who owns the South Point Hotel and Casino.
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February 1st, 2010 at 8:37:15 PM permalink
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong (as always), but in 91-92, when I did the survey, the airport slot concession was held by the owners of Terrible's.
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wildqat
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February 1st, 2010 at 10:25:20 PM permalink
Wikipedia says it's currently Michael Gaughan. It doesn't say when any transfer of ownership occurred.
inap
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February 2nd, 2010 at 1:49:16 AM permalink
i always thought that the machines at the airport were tight also. but i'm surprised when i see both the quarter and dollar wheel of fortunes hit the progressive jackpot at the airport, and almost as much as in the casinos. i've also personally hit the 1000 point, $200.00 on the .25 cent wheel of fortune while just waiting for my better half go into the ladies room. i've also hit things like five 5's on dueces wild while killing time, and seen someone make over $1,200 hitting various jackpots on one 777 slot within just 15 minutes! he kept hitting 7's of various kinds!. and none of these happen after spending hours on the machines like in the casino.

i'm not saying machines at the airport aren't tight, but i do see them hit.
DJTeddyBear
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February 2nd, 2010 at 4:33:40 AM permalink
Quote: inap

....i've also hit things like five 5's on dueces wild...

A card machine should hit exactly as often, no matter where it's located. But the pay table is probably lower.

Maybe the other slots are rigged to win more often, but pay less? Is that even possible? If so, that would give the illusion of a loose machine, while retaining more profit for the owner.
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February 2nd, 2010 at 4:45:45 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Captive audience + no competition = tight slots.

Precisely. Perhaps if the airport authority had sold the slot concession to the Chamber of Commerce there might be some sort of 'welcome to Vegas where you can really win' attitude of loose slots, perhaps not. Remember the money in Vegas is made at the hotels, bars, clubs and casinos, its not made at the airport. Why should airport slots be enticingly loose? Oh I'm sure they comply with all laws and regulations but the concession-owner knows no one is ever going to come back just to sit at the airport and feed quarters in all day long!

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