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April 24th, 2023 at 8:13:14 PM permalink
So I qualified for the special 70k slot tournament this Friday at Borgata. You needed to be in the top 800 and over the course of the weekly 35k one every Friday of March and April. Was there 6 out of the 8 weeks so pretty good. So I understand that pressing fast and hitting the pop-up symbols(in this case, grey and gold diamonds) is crucial. But is the run out of the actual slots the same for everybody? I assume not because I usually get a top 5 finish in my “heat” of 30 or so players. I feel like grandmas shouldn’t be beating me lol
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April 24th, 2023 at 8:52:55 PM permalink
Assuming that your casino uses the same software as my casino (the way you describe it sounds very similar, with the diamonds): the line hits are NOT identical between all players. Assuming you are spinning faster and hitting more diamonds than the grandma, the grandma might still beat you if she gets some huge, lucky line hit and you don't. So spinning as fast as you can is important insofar as it maximizes your chances of getting a huge, lucky line hit. But you can still succumb to bad luck in the end.

I will also emphasize that the last 10 seconds are by far the most important because that's when the multiplier is the biggest. So if physical stamina is a problem for you, be sure to conserve some for the last 10 seconds so you can go HAM.
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April 24th, 2023 at 9:09:59 PM permalink
Oh it’s the exact same from the way you describe yours. The last 10 seconds go to a question mark and then yeah you gotta go bonkers. I’m actually pretty solid with the technique. I do a little bit of the Takahashi move where I tense my forearm and keep my thumb on my middle finger. When I get tired from that I use my knuckle. Im mindful to not take my finger off the button at any point as well. I think if you alternate like that you keep both the finger and knuckle fresh and I’m good for at least 100 in slot play every week
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April 24th, 2023 at 9:23:50 PM permalink
Sift through my created threads ... for what I think I understand, it's possible IN SLOT TOURNAMENTS to boost a players win rate somewhat artificially through the use of a fair method which basically generates fair results in the background and picks the biggest payback amount. This does not go the other way as in it does not go down it always goes up.

I do not know what jurisdiction allows this but I'm assuming it's all considering it uses its own rng to pick the results anyways.
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April 24th, 2023 at 9:34:14 PM permalink
I can’t find the threads you’re talking about but it sounds like the casinos can legally decide who will get the best runouts. Pretty shady if it’s true.

1st Place
$6,000 FREEPLAY
2nd Place
$4,000 FREEPLAY
3rd Place
$3,000 FREEPLAY
4th Place
$2,000 FREEPLAY
5th Place
$1,500 FREEPLAY
6th – 8th Place
$1,000 FREEPLAY
9th – 11th Place
$800 FREEPLAY
12th – 14th Place
$600 FREEPLAY
15th – 20th Place
$400 FREEPLAY
21st – 50th Place
$350 FREEPLAY
51st – 100th Place
$250 FREEPLAY
101st – 150th Place
$220 FREEPLAY
151st – 200th Place
$200 FREEPLAY

Pretty sweet payout. Gonna take the wife this trip so taking her around while I AP slots is always thrilling. I almost hope I don’t find a Hexbreaker at 5 because it’ll expose me as being a poor husband lol
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April 28th, 2023 at 1:17:45 PM permalink
I got the top spot in my session and 16th overall so far. Still maybe 450 people to go though theoretically. I think I’m pretty nuxh pencilled in for 400 in slot(had 8.4 million)
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April 28th, 2023 at 2:38:03 PM permalink
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it sounds like the casinos can legally decide who will get the best runouts.
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imagine if you had pressed the button 5 times and in one of them you won big and you could discard the others.... thats what is happening "behind the scenes"
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April 28th, 2023 at 4:15:55 PM permalink
Sounds like the better the customer the better the runout
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April 28th, 2023 at 5:34:40 PM permalink
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Sounds like the better the customer the better the runout
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i feel like there is a disconnect as to what i was saying... and thats not what i said... imagine ANYONE or imagine 5 different people walking up to a slot machine and pressing spin... same odds as if it were to boost your win rate.. its just picking the one out of X and choosing which one is the highest... person doesnt matter at least i would like to believe it doesnt
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April 29th, 2023 at 12:11:41 AM permalink
Ahhh I gotcha. Btw I ended up getting 23rd yet only got 350. Anyone not in the top 200 gets 100 anyway…out of winners share of course
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April 29th, 2023 at 9:25:39 PM permalink
It's clearly illegal for casinos to rig a game to favor one player over others. In 2004 the Venetian rigged a drawing for a car to favor a high roller, and paid a fine of $1M.

Casinos likely couldn't rig slot tournaments even if they wanted to, because the machines don't come with an option from the factory to give a player a super win, and changing the programming would require extraordinary effort. The only way this would be possible would be if there were *multiple* tournament modes on a machine, with one machine set to a higher win rate and the others set to a lower rate. I'm guessing that there's only one tournament mode on a machine, but I'm ready to stand corrected if a casino worker can verify otherwise. Anyone?

It used to be the case that there was no tournament "mode", but rather the machine itself was a tournament-mode machine, not switched between regular mode and tournament mode, but more recently casinos can switch a machine between regular and tournament modes. I still haven't found any indication that there can be different levels of tournament mode, with some paying higher than others.

The NY regulations on tournament slots don't mention anything about multiple tournament mode levels.
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April 30th, 2023 at 8:59:20 AM permalink
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It's clearly illegal for casinos to rig a game to favor one player over others. In 2004 the Venetian rigged a drawing for a car to favor a high roller, and paid a fine of $1M.

Casinos likely couldn't rig slot tournaments even if they wanted to, because the machines don't come with an option from the factory to give a player a super win, and changing the programming would require extraordinary effort. The only way this would be possible would be if there were *multiple* tournament modes on a machine, with one machine set to a higher win rate and the others set to a lower rate. I'm guessing that there's only one tournament mode on a machine, but I'm ready to stand corrected if a casino worker can verify otherwise. Anyone?

It used to be the case that there was no tournament "mode", but rather the machine itself was a tournament-mode machine, not switched between regular mode and tournament mode, but more recently casinos can switch a machine between regular and tournament modes. I still haven't found any indication that there can be different levels of tournament mode, with some paying higher than others.

The NY regulations on tournament slots don't mention anything about multiple tournament mode levels.
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im about 99% certain this can be used in slot tournaments (based on the patent description)

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April 30th, 2023 at 9:39:20 AM permalink
Is there any indication that "Power Deal" can favor a particular contestant?
All I see is that when enabled, it amplifies returns. I do not see that such a feature can be enabled for some contestants but not others. (Expert insight is sought.)
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April 30th, 2023 at 9:58:44 AM permalink
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Is there any indication that "Power Deal" can favor a particular contestant?
All I see is that when enabled, it amplifies returns. I do not see that such a feature can be enabled for some contestants but not others. (Expert insight is sought.)
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i would assume its happening for all contestants in the tournament equally as its probably the only fair way to utilize this feature
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