Jimmy21
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November 15th, 2021 at 6:05:08 PM permalink
Specifically, I'm asking about the major Las Vegas strip casinos. In a given casino, I've heard two trains of thought. 1. That by denomination, every machine will have the same return to player. EG, all the quarter slots will have the same RTP as any other RTP inside the same casino. The only difference is variance. Or on the other hand 2. Certain machines will have an 85% RTP and the machine across the room could have a 97% RTP.
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November 15th, 2021 at 6:51:55 PM permalink
It varies from machine to machine. I believe most branded machines return less than generic ones.
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November 15th, 2021 at 6:58:21 PM permalink
Decades ago, nickel slots would have the lowest RTP, and it would get better at higher denominations. Check out some multi-denom VP machines and check out the payout for different denoms on the same machine and find that the lowest denoms have the worst payback table, and the highest denoms have the better paytable. We now live in an age of penny slots demanding 88-880 coins per spin, so I can't fathom their payback. The IRS plays the largest role in payback nowadays with jackpot inflation.

I used to play some classic slots and lose 1 out of 3 coins I put in, so I didn't hang around for a big payout.
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November 16th, 2021 at 4:57:32 AM permalink
Itís possible that every machine has a different rtp

Itís possible for different manufacturers to have the same rtp
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November 16th, 2021 at 6:43:06 AM permalink
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Specifically, I'm asking about the major Las Vegas strip casinos. In a given casino, I've heard two trains of thought. 1. That by denomination, every machine will have the same return to player. EG, all the quarter slots will have the same RTP as any other RTP inside the same casino. The only difference is variance. Or on the other hand 2. Certain machines will have an 85% RTP and the machine across the room could have a 97% RTP.
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tThey are definitely different. Having worked 25 years with the casinos I can say that for a fact.
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November 16th, 2021 at 7:01:58 AM permalink
How easy is it for the Indian casinos to change the return day to day on any given machine.
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November 16th, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM permalink
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How easy is it for the Indian casinos to change the return day to day on any given machine.
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It depends on their internal procedures. I would guess that the process takes about 5 minutes per machine. In 25 years I have never known a single casino to make changes often. I would be surprised if most machines get their RTP changed once a year.
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November 16th, 2021 at 7:18:21 AM permalink
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How easy is it for the Indian casinos to change the return day to day on any given machine.
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It depends on their internal procedures. I would guess that the process takes about 5 minutes per machine. In 25 years I have never known a single casino to make changes often. I would be surprised if most machines get their RTP changed once a year.
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So you are saying the eye in the sky guy doesn't have a switch he can hit as I switch from machine to machine? It certainly feels like he does.
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November 16th, 2021 at 7:21:48 AM permalink
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How easy is it for the Indian casinos to change the return day to day on any given machine.
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It depends on their internal procedures. I would guess that the process takes about 5 minutes per machine. In 25 years I have never known a single casino to make changes often. I would be surprised if most machines get their RTP changed once a year.
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So you are saying the eye in the sky guy doesn't have a switch he can hit as I switch from machine to machine? It certainly feels like he does.
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At most casino's the answer is no. I would guess that about 1% of slot machines offer the ability to change the hold remotely. 99% of the machines actually require someone to go to each machine and configure it.
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November 16th, 2021 at 7:28:42 AM permalink
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So you are saying the eye in the sky guy doesn't have a switch he can hit as I switch from machine to machine? It certainly feels like he does.
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My understanding is that a machine must generally be out of service for a period of time before a "reconfiguration" of this type is applied.

From what I've seen, it is common to switch a slot bank to Out of Service one day, apply the reconfiguration on a subsequent day, confirm that the new configurations are as desired, then restore the machines to service.

I think I heard that minimum four minute delays before and after were common in cases of network applied reconfiguration. You'd notice; blue screen and none of the buttons work during the delay.
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