That was in the past in reference to NJ. It was that way, no longer. Onus on you.Quote: DRichPlease explain to me how NJ accounts for liability while staying compliant with GAAP? Or do they? My guess is they don't.
Quote: DRichFor anyone that understands accounting, tickets must expire at some point.
Pennsylvania law!
Vouchers may NOT expire
https://www.pacode.com/secure/data/058/chapter461b/s461b.3.html
So accounting notwithstanding it is not only possible but currently the norm in at least one state
Quote: billryanWhy would a casino treat a slot ticket different from a chip?
Because they can?
Quote: AxelWolfSo as long as it's a legal scam its ok.
I still don't understand what you think the "scam" is.
It's corporate bureaucracy, a passive-aggressive attempt to stop people from being paid their money. The casino OWES the change, they need to FILL the hoppers in the TITO machines. The casino of course could have a machine dedicated to just paying change, but they don't. It's the very definition of corruption.Quote: TigerWuI still don't understand what you think the "scam" is.
Added. If you cannot agree it's corruption, I think you can agree there is a lack of integrity.
Quote: onenickelmiracleIt's corporate bureaucracy, a passive-aggressive attempt to stop people from being paid their money. The casino OWES the change, they need to FILL the hoppers in the TITO machines. The casino of course could have a machine dedicated to just paying change, but they don't. It's the very definition of corruption.
Imagine going to the grocery store and the cashier doesn’t give change. They just round up (even if you swipe a credit card). It’s not stealing though because if you want change you just have to go wait in that Customer Servcie line over there behind all those people returning their spoilt milk and broken eggs.
Quote: unJonImagine going to the grocery store and the cashier doesn’t give change. They just round up (even if you swipe a credit card). It’s not stealing though because if you want change you just have to go wait in that Customer Servcie line over there behind all those people returning their spoilt milk and broken eggs.
It would be more like if you went to the grocery store and the self-checkout line didn't give you change, but the normal lines with cashiers did.
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I don't see it as an inconvenience or a scam at all. Like I said above, half the time I don't even use the machines because I can't freakin' find them hiding amongst all the slot machines, and it's just easier to go to the cashier.
Sounds to me like they're trying to gradually phase out the machines to save money on maintenance or something.
That's very true. I think places do indeed do this. Maybe I haven't noticed it in a while, but Walmart receipts faded really fast I remember.Quote: MaxPenThe image all but disappears on the ticket in a couple years. Casinos could just use disappearing ink.🤓
These days, just about all reciepts/slot tickets/etc. are printed on thermal paper. It is an inkless process where heat is applied to the paper to the pixels to be printed, causing the desired areas to turn black.Quote: onenickelmiracleThat's very true. I think places do indeed do this. Maybe I haven't noticed it in a while, but Walmart receipts faded really fast I remember.
These will fade over time. Exposure to heat and light will accelerate this process.
Quote: JoemanThese days, just about all reciepts/slot tickets/etc. are printed on thermal paper. It is an inkless process where heat is applied to the paper to the pixels to be printed, causing the desired areas to turn black.
These will fade over time. Exposure to heat and light will accelerate this process.
Plus cancer. https://www.flexreceipts.com/all-posts/blog/bpa-receipts-effects
Like busses where the driver doesnt carry change. But usually this due to convenience and convincing people to purchase electronic tickets in advance. Not to scam or hustle people out of small amounts
For awhile in NYC a $.99 cheesburger with tax at McDonalds was $1.08 but only $1.07 at Burger King. The 8 3/4% tax left a fraction. Mcd rounded up burger king rounded down
I was certain McD paid the rounded down figure to the state and pocketed the extra penny
Serving Billions can really stack those pennies up
Quote: unJonQuote: JoemanThese days, just about all reciepts/slot tickets/etc. are printed on thermal paper. It is an inkless process where heat is applied to the paper to the pixels to be printed, causing the desired areas to turn black.
These will fade over time. Exposure to heat and light will accelerate this process.
Plus cancer. https://www.flexreceipts.com/all-posts/blog/bpa-receipts-effects
Wow
Quote: TigerWuIt would be more like if you went to the grocery store and the self-checkout line didn't give you change, but the normal lines with cashiers did.
Pretty much exactly what it is. And that would be just as stupid to get a voucher for the odd change. We've got automated machines and they design the machines to be frustrating? Lord have mercy. I hope this trend doesn't spread to other areas of automation.
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I get the feeling TITO Kiosks could switch to accepting only your bank card in the near future because countries are going cashless nowadays. It could make figuring your taxes easier at the end of the year, and it could make it easier for your bank to block you for suspicious activities.
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It's because the machines are either full or empty of cash. That's the only reason.Quote: ChumpChangeIt's getting so the self-checkout lines at certain big stores don't stock their self-checkout lines with cash and won't accept cash. Only electronic transactions. I went to a WalMart and they had 6 self-checkout registers but only one accepted cash. That's just LAZY!
I get the feeling TITO Kiosks could switch to accepting only your bank card in the near future because countries are going cashless nowadays. It could make figuring your taxes easier at the end of the year, and it could make it easier for your bank to block you for suspicious activities.
But in the past month maybe I've found a better progression that uses multiples of $6 that will get me to the bigger money faster, if only shooters would stop with their point 7-out BS.
I know just what you mean. Even if I am on the Don'ts, i'd like to see a bit of action rather than 'point established then immediate seven-out'Quote: ChumpChange, if only shooters would stop with their point 7-out BS.