Station Casinos Big Time Bonus

Keep seeing these commercials where Stations are running a card-in bonus on all their machines. Could this be exploited with a large enough team at a smaller property during a good time of day and high enough meter? Something like Mystery Jackpots except it's on every machine with a card in:


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IF it could, you can be sure the ones capable of doing so won't discuss it in public.

This isn't EVEN CLOSE. To a good play. There are 7-10 other casinos that I know of doing this and it's worth less then 10 dollars a person on the absolute best day.
Maryland live has it every day for months

When you say a big enough team- Like how many. 50? 100?
50 to even have a 20 percent chance at 20k? So worth what 80 dollars a person in a hypothetical situation
Can't possibly be with the coordination and nonsense

Everyone also gets 100 when it hits, but yeah I think I originally misread and thought it was on a machine instead of on every machine.

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Everyone also gets 100 when it hits, but yeah I think I originally misread and thought it was on a machine instead of on every machine.

I think you misread twice, one of the pages to which you linked says, "$5-$100 Free Play," and the other says, "Up to $100 in Free Play," so it's not a guaranteed $100.

They did this at a casino near me a couple of years ago, except I think everyone did get $100, period, when the big prize hit. There was also a small amount for the medium prize (there were three total prizes) maybe $10 FP, can't remember.

Anyway, if it was absolutely $100...yes, it's technically AP-able, but I seriously doubt if the expected hourly would be worth anyone's time. I also don't know what doing it as a team would really accomplish, unless it was EXTREMELY close to hitting.

Technically, if it was somewhat close, I suppose you could find a machine there upon which you could play $0.01/LIne/One Line/Spin and essentially just play enough to keep your card active. You would definitely have a positive EV, of course, it might take a few literal days for it to hit.

On the other hand, if they have 100%+ VP (with or without points) then the thing would just be icing on the cake if it hit while you're there.

i'm not a slot machine or vp guy so i thought i'd ask you experts a question. isn't it true that when you first sign up for a comp card that most large casinos will give some kind of halfway decent promo; free play or whatever. so couldn't somebody new to machine play exploit that by going to A.C. or vegas and getting comp cards in many different casinos and playing just long enough to get those bonuses? i know you won't get rich doing this but wouldn't it be a fairly significant trip positive?

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i'm not a slot machine or vp guy so i thought i'd ask you experts a question. isn't it true that when you first sign up for a comp card that most large casinos will give some kind of halfway decent promo; free play or whatever. so couldn't somebody new to machine play exploit that by going to A.C. or vegas and getting comp cards in many different casinos and playing just long enough to get those bonuses? i know you won't get rich doing this but wouldn't it be a fairly significant trip positive?

Yea, new players can get extremely valuable loss rebates/free play offers. However it can be difficult to do this as an out of towner as the offers are generally targeting locals, and they can often only be picked up a few days-weeks later, or only come by mail.

And then they will cut the offers after using the first o e

Some of these things, like this mentioned promotion confuse me. It's written like just using your card is good enough(same odds), but these may take coin-in into account when awarding a winner. Comes down to whether or not your bet matters. If it does, for what reason are casinos hiding it, and how can they justify it by the rules. If a casino says no entries are required, seems like there is some kind of entry required.

I sent stations a message and they have not replied yet, totally ignored my questions.

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Some of these things, like this mentioned promotion confuse me. It's written like just using your card is good enough(same odds), but these may take coin-in into account when awarding a winner. Comes down to whether or not your bet matters. If it does, for what reason are casinos hiding it, and how can they justify it by the rules. If a casino says no entries are required, seems like there is some kind of entry required.

I sent stations a message and they have not replied yet, totally ignored my questions.

I wasn't going to get into this but I don't see the harm in trying to help some of you out that don't understand or are doing things wrong. First off... I don't understand the reason for emailing the casino about a promotion. I suppose you could email them and not give away any of your information so I guess that you have no harm in it. However I would suggest talking to someone directly about the promotion and preferably other players if that is possible. Many times the employees hardly understand the promotion or many times at first they don't even know the promotion is going on. They just work there for the paycheck.

About this current promotion. Same deal as the cars or other promotions like it. They have been running this style for some time, changing it up now and again. I know APs who swear that it is based on how big you play or lose. I personally do not believe that. I have lost over 30k in the last few months trying to capitalize on this shoot down jackpot without hitting one this year. I know other APs with very small BR's camping out at the Bubble Dice game hardly putting in any coin. They have the same odds of hitting it as someone like me playing higher stakes. One of them hit the Jackpot at GVR the other day playing the Bubble Dice Machine. One lady at another spot hit it playing Video Reels. Another hit it playing full pay VP and another hit it playing Bad VP. I am pretty sure that it is computer generated and all you have to do is stick in your players card to be eligible. A few weeks ago I hit two spinners since the jackpot just hit about 30 seconds after inserting cards into the machines. I was waiting for the information to register. It takes some time at the Stations for your account to pop up. I was only going to take off the free play of my card and the wife's and maybe play a small amount of time. Anyways the jackpot hit even before I put any money into the machines. I was able to get the wheel spin and I got 50 dollar Slot Play on both cards.

The best way to play this promotion IMHO is to play a high return VP game or Full Pay VP games... play when the jackpot is high... try to partner up with one or two other players so you increase your chances although it really works out the same. Also always play on point days even if the jackpot is low to keep your account up. It shouldn't matter if you hit this jackpot or not it is basically just a free roll.

Now if you were going to team it you could but I don't think it is worth it. A team could play from 2am to 6am and not find much competition but when these jackpots get over 19k or so you find that everyone knows and is hammering but that's not so bad either since the meter moves faster and it will be over soon. Like I say play it by yourself or with a partner or two on the days you would normally play anyway and this is just a nice free roll. If you want to get ambitious you can run around to each spot when the jackpot is 17k or above and play the proper games to get your advantage.

I've heard secondhand about one person during the previous car promotion, who won the car 4 times across 3 different casinos and was told that this guy swore by the "current session coin-in" method. However, I'm inclined to believe that he was just extremely lucky, and helped his own chances out by playing $125 per deal (100-play for quarters). After all, if it was as easy as current session coin-in, I would imagine that there would be a lot more people willing to partake in a race every time one of the jackpot meters in town was approaching its upper limit.

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I've heard secondhand about one person during the previous car promotion, who won the car 4 times across 3 different casinos and was told that this guy swore by the "current session coin-in" method. However, I'm inclined to believe that he was just extremely lucky, and helped his own chances out by playing $125 per deal (100-play for quarters). After all, if it was as easy as current session coin-in, I would imagine that there would be a lot more people willing to partake in a race every time one of the jackpot meters in town was approaching its upper limit.

I know APs who swear by this coin in theory but they are all quarter players so to me it's like they are trying to say only high rollers can win this promo or they have a better chance. I can't prove them wrong but I know a player who played 100 play dimes and won two cars a few months ago. I personally played a ton of 100 play quarters and 5, 10, and 25 dollar single line and came up with air balls for the year on the shoot down. IMHO that doesn't mean anything except that I might be behind the expected win rate. I know they all love me and I get some amazing offers. It is just a matter of time before something happens in my favor and that will be Pow... Right in the Kisser!! The best part is I only have to break even to be very far ahead.

I wanted to play on a special point day yesterday at a different casino, which I did. The problem was when I got to the Casino I checked on the website to see the progressives of this shoot down. Fiesta Henderson was 19,200. It was a tough choice but I decided to let it go and just play the point day I had planned on. I was lazy and didn't want to drive over there to play. I am not sure if playing 2 machines with the same card makes a difference but that is what I usually do if I don't have someone else with me. I ended up with a nice loss on the day and it isn't easy to get to 19k or over on that shoot down. I don't think I made a bad choice but I certainly know that playing for the shoot down would be much less variance since I would play something small and play slow. The Palms is over 15k now.

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I was able to get the wheel spin and I got 50 dollar Slot Play on both cards.

The Red Rock jackpot was up above 19.7k this morning around 5 am. I needed to go out to Summerlin anyway, so I left early and reached the casino with the jackpot at 19.8k. A few minutes later at 6 am, the wheel appeared on my machine. There's probably a $50 wedge somewhere, but I only saw $5 - $10 - $15 - $20 - $25 - $100 - jackpot.

I landed on a $15 wedge, between jackpot and $100.

Near the finish, the progressive was advancing about $50 per hour. A typical rate for that time of day would probably be about $20 per hour, so the impending jackpot did attract additional play, but nothing extraordinary.

Now all ten meters are below 13k.

The Big Time Bonus has been extended through September at all ten properties. I like this promotion better than drawings, although they do have a "Spin City" drawing planned for October 1st, with entries earned throughout the entire month of September.