Slotlady Channel

Quote: ChallengedMilly

NG slots is lying if he's saying he doesn't earn a profit on his channel. He wouldn't keep going in the hole if not.

If a youtuber bragged about their profits they'd lose viewers and revenue and payments. Its human nature that people help out losers.

I know of one yoytuber who openly discussed his YouTube revenue and it cost him viewers and money.

Tell people you're losing... it generates $upport.

So there’s a chance slotlady edits out winning sessions so she can show a loss? That’s an interesting business model.

Quote: FinsRule

So there’s a chance slotlady edits out winning sessions so she can show a loss? That’s an interesting business model.

She plays negative expectation games. Why do you think she would have to edit out winning sessions?

The point is this: youtubers do not have to win to generate income.

That may be hard for the APs and math oriented members to understand.

Maybe she's got earlier videos where she plays differently, but of the one's I've watched she always leaves a machine after losing a certain amount and moves on to another one. She never played down to zero of the ones I've seen but she does show losing.

Quote: AlanMendelson

That may be hard for the APs and math oriented members to understand.

You think it's hard for a math oriented member to understand

if (youtube revenue - expected loss) > 0
then
moneymoneymoney
else
losingbigtime

You really think that?

Quote: FinsRule

So there’s a chance slotlady edits out winning sessions so she can show a loss? That’s an interesting business model.

My guess is winning sessions generate better interest/views than losing sessions = money.

NGslots claims to show all his sessions but he constantly “signals” upcoming winning sessions with teaser videos in the session he’s playing or flat out posts “big winning”…”huge hand pay”….”my biggest win yet” in the header of a video about to be shown or watched.

I’ve asked him why he does that instead of just letting it be a surprise for viewers, win or lose. He won’t answer. Has to be views.

His videos are easy to decipher if they are winning just by reading his headline. His losing video headlines tend to be ambiguous. “Up to $200 per spin”, etc.

More clicks on winning sessions. But probably more “donations” for losing ones. All depends on where the income is coming from. I guess she probably wants a good balance. Which is what she’ll get naturally anyway.

Quote: FinsRule

More clicks on winning sessions. But probably more “donations” for losing ones. All depends on where the income is coming from. I guess she probably wants a good balance. Which is what she’ll get naturally anyway.

It would be an interesting study. My guess is they would prefer more views and likes that winning sessions bring. Most of them “hawk” hit the like button a bunch of times during their sessions. While chats bring in some money….my guess is they all prefer higher view rates, more “likes”.

I think they want their video to trend on YouTube and this can be accomplished with views and likes.

Not all of the videos have the option to donate via super chat either. Super chats are generally for premier streams or live streams. NG uploads a daily video with no chance for chat money. He simply relies on views and likes. That’s 30 sessions per month with no chat money option.

The purpose of promoting the LIKE button and the SUBSCRIBE button is that it triggers the YouTube algorithms for better placement and promotions by YouTube.

Those videos that are placed better or promoted more are likely to gain new viewers and that translates into more money.

I agree that winning sessions generate more viewer interest. But if a Youtuber gloats about winning it can have a negative reaction. A Youtuber who says they've been lucky and won without being boastful probably has the best combination for gaining community support. I agree it would make for an interesting study.

Today I stopped watching a video by Slotmassacre who only plays video poker because he wasn't winning. There's no entertainment watching someone lose.

Frankly what I'm waiting for is a video poker channel with the host explaining each hold and each play. I think that would be a good use of my time.

I do not watch Slotlady's videos. They teach me nothing. I used to hope she'd at least explain UTH and those side bets she sometimes plays. If she has explained them I dont watch enough to know.

I also dont watch the slot channels. No interest and I dont play slots. I dont even understand all those graphic pays.

Quote: AlanMendelson

If a youtuber bragged about their profits they'd lose viewers and revenue and payments. Its human nature that people help out losers.

I know of one yoytuber who openly discussed his YouTube revenue and it cost him viewers and money.

Tell people you're losing... it generates $upport.

Slot massacre talks about his ups and downs and it seems mostly genuine. But his channel is geared towards different players than slot lady and some others.

With all possible respect to Slotlady, who I think is very nice in my limited interaction with her, I would not watch her videos to learn proper UTH strategy. To say the least, her UTH play is sub-optimal.

On the other hand, she's probably better than the average UTH player. She seems to know what to do at the first decision point, unless I missed something. I only watched that video for about ten minutes, though.

As someone who would never play these table games without a bankroll to go with it, Slotlady's videos are what I need to see how the game is played. I come to this website for strategy though.

She's stated in previous videos that she gets her table game strategies at the WOO website. Of course, that isn't to say she has them all memorized perfectly.

As for slot videos, one of the main points of them is to demonstrate a machine's various features so that players can see which games they might enjoy. Sessions that hit all the bonus and free spin rounds, however, are typically winning sessions. This, unfortunately, gives the illusion that if you put $200 in a slot machine you'll be walking away with $700 after 40 or 50 spins.

One thing I'm glad she doesn't use to promote her videos is a picture of her looking shocked, surprised, like she's just seen the craziest most fantastic thing ever that a lot of youtubers use to promote videos.

However, I do think the Wizard should be doing that with his. ; )

Quote: rxwine

One thing I'm glad she doesn't use to promote her videos is a picture of her looking shocked, surprised, like she's just seen the craziest most fantastic thing ever that a lot of youtubers use to promote videos.

However, I do think the Wizard should be doing that with his. ; )

Marketing, marketing, marketing. After time spent playing and editing, uploading videos…my guess is all other time is spent marketing, promoting, selling.

Quote: TDVegas

Marketing, marketing, marketing. After time spent playing and editing, uploading videos…my guess is all other time is spent marketing, promoting, selling.

I'm not sure how much editing is done. The replays of her "live sessions" are not normally edited.

But if she shoots a video to upload on youtube that is not live, the edit time could easily be 100% to 300% of the shooting time depending on how much it is edited.

So let's say she shoots a one hour game session at craps. I use craps for a particular reason -- her dice might fly off the table. The time spent retrieving the die would be edited out. Those edits take time.

She also needs to upload the videos to YouTube. Depending on the speed of her connection (and I cant imagine she has high speed in her hotel room) it could easily take two hours to upload a one hour video.

Videos need to be prepared (rendered) for YouTube standards, etc.

So it really could be a four hour job to shoot a one hour video and get it online and it could be five or six hours.

Live videos only require minimal post production and I'm guessing they might actually get higher payments from YouTube. I've never gone live on YouTube.

I’d recommend watching her UTH stream from last night. She seemed happier and answered some questions that people were asking about her channel.

Quote: rxwine

However, I do think the Wizard should be doing that with his. ; )

You think Slotlady would pose looking shocked, surprised, like she's just seen the craziest most fantastic thing ever to promote Wizard's videos?

That's pretty cool

Quote: AlanMendelson

I'm not sure how much editing is done. The replays of her "live sessions" are not normally edited.

But if she shoots a video to upload on youtube that is not live, the edit time could easily be 100% to 300% of the shooting time depending on how much it is edited.

So let's say she shoots a one hour game session at craps. I use craps for a particular reason -- her dice might fly off the table. The time spent retrieving the die would be edited out. Those edits take time.

She also needs to upload the videos to YouTube. Depending on the speed of her connection (and I cant imagine she has high speed in her hotel room) it could easily take two hours to upload a one hour video.

Videos need to be prepared (rendered) for YouTube standards, etc.

So it really could be a four hour job to shoot a one hour video and get it online and it could be five or six hours.

Live videos only require minimal post production and I'm guessing they might actually get higher payments from YouTube. I've never gone live on YouTube.

I’m not sure about slot lady but the supermajority of other slot channels don’t do a lot of live content. I’d say 80% to 90% of their play is pre-recorded….then uploaded later. NG is airing slot play from over a month ago.

The problem with live content is they are obligated to acknowledge every $1 that comes in via chat with subscribers AND talk with them thru their messages and play slots at the same time. The other issue is if they are prolific, they would literally have to be in the casino everyday filming live content.

NG’s premier streams (pre-recorded) allows him to simply communicate with his subscribers as the slot play was pre recorded. My guess is out of his 75-85 monthly play sessions…maybe 3 or 4 are live.

His trips to Vegas…he records many, many sessions over a 72 hour period….then uploads them individually over the course of a month.

Quote: Mission146

With all possible respect to Slotlady, who I think is very nice in my limited interaction with her, I would not watch her videos to learn proper UTH strategy. To say the least, her UTH play is sub-optimal.

On the other hand, she's probably better than the average UTH player. She seems to know what to do at the first decision point, unless I missed something. I only watched that video for about ten minutes, though.

Agreed! She does make mistakes in UTH. But she does a great job of buying in for $1000, as its very difficult to win with a low buy in as the swings in this game are huge. Good job in increasing her bet when she is running good.

I typically buy in for $800.

Quote: ams288

I’d recommend watching her UTH stream from last night. She seemed happier and answered some questions that people were asking about her channel.

I watched for about 15 minutes and it sounded like the old fun happier Sara, than the person she's been lately. Hope she maintains it.

Quote: rxwine

One thing I'm glad she doesn't use to promote her videos is a picture of her looking shocked, surprised, like she's just seen the craziest most fantastic thing ever that a lot of youtubers use to promote videos.

However, I do think the Wizard should be doing that with his. ; )

She has a few OMG poses such this one...



But you're right. Around 99% of the time she just shoots a pretty smile at the camera.
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Wizard videos are interesting to consider. This craps video from 5 years ago is his biggest hit with 522k views...



It's true that half a million views is hardly royalty level but, it's also true that most youtubers would kill for only 100k views. You might think that the eye-candy of Angela helps with the click bait and you'd have a point. Other videos featuring her (and wearing far more daring outfits), however, have mediocre views at best. And consider this seemingly run-of-the-mill puzzle yawner...



It has 146k views. Go figure.

Watch her slot stream from tonight!

The ending is great.

Quote: ams288

Watch her slot stream from tonight!

The ending is great.

I saw it! Now we get into the issue of who pushed the button and pays the taxes!

I love the people giving her super chats

Who's the guy in the joint play?

Quote: smoothgrh

I saw it! Now we get into the issue of who pushed the button and pays the taxes!

She should be prepared if she ever does hit some mega jackpot while playing slots with someone. A friendly handshake agreement can go "sour" if a lot of money becomes involved. I mean, it could happen.

That wasn't any measly average hit, but it's not worth a legal dispute.. (unless you hang in Judge Judy's court)

Quote: rxwine

A friendly handshake agreement can go "sour" if a lot of money becomes involved.

I'm almost positive that in her most recent Three Card Poker video, she reacted to a bad beat by saying "sour!"

Maybe she reads the comments?! :D

Quote: smoothgrh

I'm almost positive that in her most recent Three Card Poker video, she reacted to a bad beat by saying "sour!"

Maybe she reads the comments?! :D

Sour is her "trademark" expression. She didnt get it from this forum.

Quote: Mission146

With all possible respect to Slotlady, who I think is very nice in my limited interaction with her, I would not watch her videos to learn proper UTH strategy. To say the least, her UTH play is sub-optimal.

On the other hand, she's probably better than the average UTH player. She seems to know what to do at the first decision point, unless I missed something. I only watched that video for about ten minutes, though.

once again you only have to watch the first few hands to see blunders.

she is just not going to learn the 1x strategy but wings it instead. She towers over the average player you see just by not making the 3x play

Who is the dorky guy that's been playing with her this week or so? He was so bad during the ultimate x gold session video.

Quote: ChallengedMilly

Who is the dorky guy that's been playing with her this week or so? He was so bad during the ultimate x gold session video.

She took on a partner?

Quote: ChallengedMilly

Who is the dorky guy that's been playing with her this week or so? He was so bad during the ultimate x gold session video.

Just when I thought the suited A-10 was bad, he held a pair of sixes over A-Q-J suited. I'm pretty sure I shouldn't watch the rest of this.

On a losing hand, his remark was, "Ah, it was the right choice, anyway."

Quote: Mission146

Just when I thought the suited A-10 was bad, he held a pair of sixes over A-Q-J suited. I'm pretty sure I shouldn't watch the rest of this.

On a losing hand, his remark was, "Ah, it was the right choice, anyway."

My video poker talents aren't splendid, but that's about where I stopped watching, too.

Quote: ChallengedMilly

Who is the dorky guy that's been playing with her this week or so? He was so bad during the ultimate x gold session video.

If you’re in the market for a (some may say) dorky guy playing VP, I recommend the American Casino Guide channel. They’ve started putting up VP videos. Entertaining, solid strategy based on what I can tell, and it’s fun to see Steve, who is usually pretty straight laced and somewhat dry in delivery, get excited over a big hand and basically be more of a gambler.

Quote: Dieter

My video poker talents aren't splendid, but that's about where I stopped watching, too.

You missed him missing a pair of sixes and holding a single Ace, instead. This is brutal. I really need to stop watching.

Quote: Mission146

You missed him missing a pair of sixes and holding a single Ace, instead. This is brutal. I really need to stop watching.

Did I miss anything worth seeing?

Is there any chance deliberate bad play is involved to "build engagement" by enticing corrective suggestions in the comments?

Quote: Dieter

Did I miss anything worth seeing?

Is there any chance deliberate bad play is involved to "build engagement" by enticing corrective suggestions in the comments?

I would hope to God not because that would be flatly irresponsible. That's especially true when, after making the wrong hold, he says, "Ah, it was the right choice, anyway."

This wasn't a livestream, so it seems to me that you can go ahead and film your intro and then go from there. I could understand why you wouldn't want to just blatantly edit out hands involving misplays, but the least a person could do is actually look up the hands and make corrections at the end of the video saying, "Oh, just so everyone knows, this hand in particular was a huge mistake on my part."

My concern is that some people are going to see this as a, "Professional-level," video and think that you keep pairs of sixes over three-to-a-royal.

Or, just film multiple, "Mini-sessions," and publish the one in which only minor mistakes were maybe made. Definitely don't make comments like, "That was the right hold," when you clearly have no clue what the right hold is.

Quote: Mission146

My concern is that some people are going to see this as a, "Professional-level," video and think that you keep pairs of sixes over three-to-a-royal.

The house will probably welcome poor play.
The house may be sponsoring the video.

[shrug] They're all infomercials for casinos. For amusement only; results not typical. If rash persists, consult a physician promptly.

We get another A-10 hold, always fun.

We get 5-6-8 suited and 9-J suited with no multiplier where he holds the Jack. Normally, 5-6-8 would be the hold for this DDB paytable, and while I don't claim to know UX strategy specifically (yes, the other ones I pointed out are so bad that I don't need to know UX strategy to know they were wrong) I would think that the flush multiplier potential would make 5-6-8 and even better relative hold than usual.

He correctly holds 9494 two pair and says, "We're going to just hold onto that. Can't gamble." That's the right hold, but I don't understand the comment. It's not Aces. Would anyone ever contemplate, absent being in some sort of Video Poker tournament and knowing you're way behind, ever holding just the fours?

Kd10dJh9c2s and we get a K-10 hold...he loves those two card royal holds with a ten. Normal DDB strategy for this paytable would be the four to an inside straight, and at a guess, I'm going to say that the straight multiplier justifies it even more. Even if not the straight draw, then I would think the hold becomes KJ.

KcQcJh10d3h...of course he holds the two to a royal. Why doesn't he like three-to-a-royal as opposed to pairs!? You hold the open-ended straight draw here; it's not close.

The very next hand he gets KJ and rags, but then only holds the king. He's not even paying attention, too busy talking. I guess it's tough because you can't just sit there and be silent, but Video Poker demands enough attention that I'd prefer not to even have a casual conversation when playing.

"We've got two pair times two, but let's go for the full house--at least we get the multiplier." (Hits Full House) "Wow, that was quite the call, quite the call." No, it wasn't quite the call. You just made what was obviously the best play. Neither of the pairs were of Aces.

Because it is an unjust world, he gets a hand with KQ, holds just the king because...reasons...and then draws quad 4's.

QJ hand, only holds the jack. Does he think every high card is an Ace?

Throws away an inside straight draw with otherwise rags, not something you want to do on UX DDB, for sure.

Jc9c8c5h2s...he holds just the Jack, of course. I'm going to be physically ill.

Qh10h6h6d4c...WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HELL!?. He holds Q-10. In what world does this make sense? His errors aren't even consistent with themselves! He kept a pair of sixes over three-to-a-royal, what, twenty minutes ago??? Why does he like two-to-a-royal with a ten so much?

2c3s7d9d10d---"I'll try to get a straight flush, why not?" Yes, I agree. It's the best hold by a mile.

He misses a pair of fives and holds just a queen.

7h8h9h10hKh...."We flopped a flush, almost a straight flush, but I can't gamble." Correct to hold the flush, but first thing is you are gambling. Secondly, don't pretend that you've actually been making any great strategy decisions or have any idea what the hell you're doing. You've missed almost every hold that is even close.

High Card Rainbow plus a nine, "I'll just hold the Ace, probably not the right move, but..." and, you are right! It's not the right move, but at least you don't think you're making the right move this time.

CONCLUSION:

This guy completely sucks at Video Poker. He's one of the worst Video Poker players I have seen in my entire life. That said, if I was going to watch anyone play slots, I'd watch him as soon as anyone else. It's slots, so what's the difference? I don't really see him as a, 'Dork,' as others have said; he's just some random guy.

Quote: Mission146

This guy completely sucks at Video Poker. He's one of the worst Video Poker players I have seen in my entire life.

He’s got another VP video out tonight.

He says in it when he makes the videos he’s not looking directly at the VP screen, he’s looking at it through the playback on his phone. Maybe that’s why he makes so many mistakes?

Quote: Dieter

_{If you don't like it, you don't have to watch.}

I agree with that, which is precisely why I don't intend to watch anymore of his video poker videos.

Quote: ams288

He’s got another VP video out tonight.

He says in it when he makes the videos he’s not looking directly at the VP screen, he’s looking at it through the playback on his phone. Maybe that’s why he makes so many mistakes?

That's a theory for some of the mistakes. In the video I did watch, I noticed he would frequently hold the middle card when he intended to hold the second card from the right, but he would usually fix that. That's explained by what he said in the video.

As to the rest, when it came to the three-royal against the pair of 6's, his verbatim quote on holding the pair was, "Ah...it was the right choice anyway."

It was the wrong choice, by a lot. It is not a close decision. So, when he makes the wrong choice and declares it to be the right choice, no, I am not going to attribute that to the camera.

Quote: Mission146

That's a theory for some of the mistakes. In the video I did watch, I noticed he would frequently hold the middle card when he intended to hold the second card from the right, but he would usually fix that. That's explained by what he said in the video.

As to the rest, when it came to the three-royal against the pair of 6's, his verbatim quote on holding the pair was, "Ah...it was the right choice anyway."

It was the wrong choice, by a lot. It is not a close decision. So, when he makes the wrong choice and declares it to be the right choice, no, I am not going to attribute that to the camera.

I also want to make one thing really clear: If I made a video of myself playing UX Dubs, or really MOST Video Poker games for that matter, then I would almost certainly make mistakes. That would leave me with the choice of explaining what mistakes I made at the end of the video, editing out the mistakes or filming multiple, 'Sessions,' and only publishing sessions that don't have any mistakes.

I'm not claiming to be any great video poker player, because I'm not. I'm better at it than the average player, but this is also a good example of why I don't play UX and certainly wouldn't make a video of myself doing so and publish it.

There are two games, and only ONE paytable for each, where I am (or, was, maybe not even that anymore) near flawless---a Joker Poker (Kings) paytable and 98.91% Deuces. Even then, if I were to record a session, I would watch my sessions back looking for mistakes and only play straight VP, or some variant such as Super Times Pay, where the variant does not change the proper strategy whatsoever.

And, I probably would make the occasional mistake were I trying to film it. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that making a video like that is easy. That's kind of my entire point. Playing Video Poker competently is a difficult enough task when you're not trying to hold a camera, look at the camera feed on your phone AND engage with whoever might be watching.

I think what he might be best to do, assuming he has the technical capability, would be to film the playing and then separately record/dub commentary in with an edit.

Quote: Mission146

That would leave me with the choice of explaining what mistakes I made at the end of the video, editing out the mistakes or filming multiple, 'Sessions,' and only publishing sessions that don't have any mistakes.

or better yet, when editing, put a note on the screen as the hand is being played to point out the correct play.

Quote: rsactuary

or better yet, when editing, put a note on the screen as the hand is being played to point out the correct play.

That’s an awesome idea!

Quote: Mission146

film the playing and then separately record/dub commentary in with an edit.

I think video overlay titles are still a thing.
A "Wrong hold!", either as a title or a popup link to a video poker strategy resource would do, and may be easier than sitting and narrating for the whole video.

Quote: Mission146

That’s an awesome idea!

SlotMassacre has done that, but not consistently.

Okay, I watched since it was only a few minutes.

Vic Loves: A-10 suited.

Vic Hates: Any two unsuited high cards, will usually only hold one. Broke up QJ holding just the Queen, which is actually the worst of the two even if only holding one was the right play…more straights with just the Jack and both had one flush penalty card.

Someone tell Vic since he likes Quad Aces so much (no spoiler, it’s in the title) that he’ll get more of them not holding suited A-10!!!