Slot players begging for money?

I was playing Wolf Run about 2 years ago when some guy told me he lost all of his money in the slots and said he didn't even have a dollar to eat off of a fast food value menu. I was up and felt bad for him, so I gave him a dollar. He was grateful.

A woman got me upset though about two months ago. We were outside of the Casino shooting the breeze and I told her I was only playing to meet the $5 free play minimum(you have to play at least $5 to get the $5 in free play) and only had about $3 that I was going to strive to turn into the $5 free play.

She had the audacious nerve to ask me to give her some of my free play. Excuse me? I was going to struggle just to meet the requirement and you wantme to give you some of my free play that I haven't even earned yet? No, just no. Luckily, I got into the Casino first and told the security guard to watch out for her because she begged me for money than I made a beeline for my machine. I made the free play, but barely.

Always keep your guard up around beggars in casinos. A) They are bottom feeders and will do ANYTHING to get money. B) They're pathological liars and will feed you stories that are complete BS.

I encountered a situation similar to yours and handled it like this:

Waiting for a Bus in AC and was sitting on a slot machine chair as opposed to the uncomfy bench chairs in the bus waiting area. Put $50 worth of slot cash from my account into a $1 machine that I usually put my Bus Bonus free play and get most of my bus ticket money back with. Out of nowhere, a young man walks up to me and gives me his sob story about how he lost all his money and needs bus fare to get home.

I hear him out and ask him, where are you trying to get to? He replies "Brooklyn, the fare is $18.50, can you help me?" I say "Here's 50 cents, if it helps your cause then it is all yours." He takes it begrudgingly and shuffles off to his next victim.

I continue to play on the machine and get a hit for $300 with $17 CREDITS left from the original buy in, not but 10 seconds after, the loafer comes back! All of a sudden congratulating me and now asking for more money!?!?! Which can only mean, he was watching me when I sat down. Waited until I uploaded my credits to ask for money. Then went back to his hiding spot and watched me play through the slot cash until I got a payout!!

I immediately told him to "Get outta here" He says "C'mon, you just won $300 thanks to me!" I instantly cashed out my winnings which were $316, spun the last $1 of free play and said "You better start walking while it's still light out, it's a long way to Brooklyn!"

Lol, but so damn creepy. I have mixed emotions about your post. It's hilarious, but at the same time, it's unnerving that he was watching you.

My dad used to work at the track, he would always have these people begging for 10$ for "taxi money", he would always give them a bus ticket ( my dad did not drive , so always had them on him).
Many would get pissed , some would thank him, once a guy got so mad at him, cussing him out and hitting the glass window at the ticketing booth, security had to give him a ride to the door.

That was creepy, these type of people knows that gamblers bring money whenever they enter casino. Just always beware of them, don't entertain them as much as possible.

Luckily I am Asian so I pretend I don't know english

Quote: djatc

Luckily I am Asian so I pretend I don't know english

LOL.

Quote: Kentry

Lol, but so damn creepy. I have mixed emotions about your post. It's hilarious, but at the same time, it's unnerving that he was watching you.

Very disturbing, I always look around now when I am uploading credits or playing a machine in a quiet area. Also, I knew that a one way ticket from Atlantic City to Brooklyn was way more than $18.50, but rather than trap the poor kid in a lie, I waited for him to be honest and tell me what the money was REALLY for! He failed that test and got a booby prize of 2 shiny quarters, then tried to come back like all of a sudden my disposition changed after a few hundred dollars on my screen.

There is always some transient watching close by for entertainment sake, I stop playing and shoot them a dirty look. Some get the hint, but many don't and continue to stand right behind me as if I my spins are solely happening for their amusement.

Quote: BedWetterBetter

Very disturbing, I always look around now when I am uploading credits or playing a machine in a quiet area. Also, I knew that a one way ticket from Atlantic City to Brooklyn was way more than $18.50, but rather than trap the poor kid in a lie, I waited for him to be honest and tell me what the money was REALLY for! He failed that test and got a booby prize of 2 shiny quarters, then tried to come back like all of a sudden my disposition changed after a few hundred dollars on my screen.

There is always some transient watching close by for entertainment sake, I stop playing and shoot them a dirty look. Some get the hint, but many don't and continue to stand right behind me as if I my spins are solely happening for their amusement.

Joke's on you, because everybody knows Victoria Tours has 6 line run buses a day from AC to Brooklyn, $10 one-way.

But seriously, it's Atlantic City, what do you expect. Ever been hit up for money by the black guy who needs to fill up his gas can? What about the white guy with his right hand amputated?

In general, just say you're down a lot of money for the day, can't help you. Sorry.

If someone is resorting to panhandling they will most certainly get more value out of $1 than I will. Simply treating them like they are a person is more than most of us give them.

Don't see it around the casinos too much. At the grocery store recently some crazy lady with missing teeth was trying to sell candy bars to buy halloween costumes for her kids. I gave her $1 and talked to her for a moment, she buys them with food stamps and sells them in the parking lot to earn some money. Then another woman with you kids tried the same thing as I was leaving. She made $10 in the past hour and has been doing it for three months she said. She was good looking, I wondered how she hadn't been picked up by a pimp

Quote: BedWetterBetter

There is always some transient watching close by for entertainment sake, I stop playing and shoot them a dirty look. Some get the hint, but many don't and continue to stand right behind me as if I my spins are solely happening for their amusement.

I get that you don't want someone asking you for money or standing an inch behind you.

Any objections to people keeping a respectful distance with their amusement and not asking for handouts?

The moochers at the casino are really annoying, especially the ones who say they made you a winner. Huh? Anyways, I've unfortunately given in sometimes, but I'm stopping from here on out.

I remember a guy being kicked out of a Casino for giving gamblers slotting tips and then begging them for a cut of their winnings because he helped them.

Quote: TomG

If someone is resorting to panhandling they will most certainly get more value out of $1 than I will. Simply treating them like they are a person is more than most of us give them.

You're just enabling them by giving them $1. In other words, you are doing harm to them by encouraging them to beg for money than get a real job and contribute something to the economy. You would be much better off to give that $1 to a charity for the homeless. We had this discussion before and even FrG agreed with this position.

Quote: BedWetterBetter

...He replies "Brooklyn, the fare is $18.50, can you help me?" I say "Here's 50 cents, if it helps your cause then it is all yours." He takes it begrudgingly and shuffles off to his next victim.

Having lived in Vegas for 15 years now, I've heard the "I'm stranded here and just need bus/gas money to get home" story more times than I have fingers and toes. In fact, I've seen the same faces pulling it multiple times over long periods of time.

Okay, that is their angle, I get it. However, what really bothers me is that if you give them a buck or two they don't say thank you but see a weak mark and really press into you for more. They will follow you around and badger you rather then annoy somebody else who didn't give a dime.

If someone needs a buck because they are hungry, offer to go with them and pay for their food. You'll find out very quickly that they aren't very hungry anymore, and don't want to waste their time going for a walk with you.

Quote: Dalex64

If someone needs a buck because they are hungry, offer to go with them and pay for their food. You'll find out very quickly that they aren't very hungry anymore, and don't want to waste their time going for a walk with you.

You're absolutely right.

Quote: Dalex64

If someone needs a buck because they are hungry, offer to go with them and pay for their food. You'll find out very quickly that they aren't very hungry anymore, and don't want to waste their time going for a walk with you.

Or offer to go to the bus ticket office with them and buy their ticket. Same difference.

Quote: Dalex64

If someone needs a buck because they are hungry, offer to go with them and pay for their food. You'll find out very quickly that they aren't very hungry anymore, and don't want to waste their time going for a walk with you.

https://youtu.be/7rMpCud1IwQ

A clip from Scary Movie

Quote: BedWetterBetter

Always keep your guard up around beggars in casinos. A) They are bottom feeders and will do ANYTHING to get money. B) They're pathological liars and will feed you stories that are complete BS.

Reminds me of the first time I ever went to Vegas. I was at the 4 Queens on Fremont. A guy comes up and asks me if I'd like to buy his gold ring. I ask him how much, he says "Thirty Five dollars".

Right there, I knew it had to be at best, gold plated, at worst, just junk. Either way, the ring looked nice, so I got it from him. A week later, I went into a pawn shop and asked, yep, it was fake.

Still looks nice, though. Finger never did turn green.

I ever hit a big jackpot for serious cash, I may consider buying a real gold ring.

Get hit up at the 7-11 on Stewart downtown all the time. Finally, caved to what appeared to be a desparate tourist wanting 20.00. He gave his phone number and even called mine to try and demonstrate some legitimacy. He insisted it was a loan that he intended to pay back. I took some collateral. Big ass class ring 10k, pretty decent dive watch, and a white gold 14k bracelet. Still waiting to hear from him as it has been a couple weeks now. Tried calling and phone disconnected. Gonna scrap the shit soon.
I like to give the truly homeless non beggars a 10 or 20 every so often. Eff the beggars and con artists. This guy was telling me how he would give me all 3 items if I lent him the 20. I'm not sure why he came off it when I produced the 20. He looked shocked when I demanded all 3 after producing the 20. He came off them though.

Quote: MaxPen

Get hit up at the 7-11 on Stewart downtown all the time. Finally, caved to what appeared to be a desparate tourist wanting 20.00. He gave his phone number and even called mine to try and demonstrate some legitimacy. He insisted it was a loan that he intended to pay back. I took some collateral. Big ass class ring 10k, pretty decent dive watch, and a white gold 14k bracelet. Still waiting to hear from him as it has been a couple weeks now. Tried calling and phone disconnected. Gonna scrap the shit soon.
I like to give the truly homeless non beggars a 10 or 20 every so often. Eff the beggars and con artists. This guy was telling me how he would give me all 3 items if I lent him the 20. I'm not sure why he came off it when I produced the 20. He looked shocked when I demanded all 3 after producing the 20. He came off them though.

Sounds like you got the better end of that deal. How much do you think the items will sell for?

Secured loan always better than an unsecured loan.

Quote: Dieter

I get that you don't want someone asking you for money or standing an inch behind you.

Any objections to people keeping a respectful distance with their amusement and not asking for handouts?

As long as you are not in my peripherals, watching me play to entertain you, then I have no problem. But most loafers stand right behind you or even sit next to you with no intention of doing anything other than watching you, and that bothers me.

What is their real end game? Are they waiting for loose change to fall from my pockets or perhaps my mobile device to become within grabbing range? Maybe vulturing the machine and hoping I lose to increase their chances? Just too many questions go through your head when people stand/sit disturbingly close on purpose.

On an ironic note, I was at Sands PA last night and walked upon a table where an older gentleman was playing 3 hands at table max of $1000. It was a $25 table so I sat down, put my chips on the felt and decided to order a drink (Sands PA won't serve alcohol to someone who isn't playing a machine or table). A herd of bus travelers from NYC were already circled around the old fellow, watching his Orange chips turn into Grey chips, then back into Orange chips for most of the night. He seemingly had no problem with me or the tour group standing behind him watching the piles go up and down.

There was another middle-aged player at 3rd base, playing the minimum of $25 and seemingly having a good time, until I merely sat down and opted not to play when asked by the dealer. I was wonging at close range but still not jumping into the shoe as a courtesy to the orange chip betting old-man, who may or may not have been an AP.

Then the dealer then went on a tear, decimating the old man's stack and taking down the middle-aged guy as well. The count was still positive, but the dealer just kept pulling insane hands. All of a sudden, I hear back talking coming from 3rd base "Ever since he sat down, I lost every hand." I pay it no mind, until it gets louder and more direct "Are you gonna play or just sit there and keep making us lose?. I retort, "Are you going to realize it has nothing to do with me and your constant bitching doesn't help?"

He starts huffing and puffing, until he loses all his money and storms off. The shoe ends, I play the next one and made a decent profit of $350 before looking for the door. I see middle aged moron darting for my seat, I quickly tell the dealer, "Hold my spot!" to which he obliges. Causing more bitching from the guy about how he wanted that spot and I took it from him, blah blah blah. As I start walking towards the cashier, I notice a round black object on the casino floor, upon closer inspection it is a $100 chip!!!

I quickly scoop up the chip on my way to the cage, cash out, get myself a cheesesteak and crinkle cut fries with my comps and mosey on home feeling like a million bucks.

You are on tape picking up the black from the floor.
They are looking for you, are coming for you.
Put all your assets in someone else's name and try to run.
Prolly want work, they will find you.
You couldn't just walk away a winner?
Greedy SOB, now you've gone and got the Hounds on your scent ;-)
Don't let them take you alive, today is always a good day to die ;-)

Quote: BedWetterBetter

I notice a round black object on the casino floor, upon closer inspection it is a $100 chip!!!

I quickly scoop up the chip on my way to the cage, cash out, get myself a cheesesteak and crinkle cut fries with my comps and mosey on home feeling like a million bucks.

I thought it wasn't kosher to post about illegal activities on this board?

Also, I'm not impressed at your moral character given that stealing made you feel so good.

Quote: sabre

I thought it wasn't kosher to post about illegal activities on this board?

Also, I'm not impressed at your moral character given that stealing made you feel so good.

It's it stealing if you found a $100 bill in the woods in the middle of nowhere?

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

It's it stealing if you found a $100 bill in the woods in the middle of nowhere?

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We're you talking about Foxwoods?

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

It's it stealing if you found a $100 bill in the woods in the middle of nowhere?

Is it your woods?

Quote: Dieter

Is it your woods?

And did [he] make a sound while taking it?

I remember a woman saying she was temporarily banned from a Casino for stealing a slot voucher from what she thought was an abandoned slot and attempting to cash it in. Unfortunately for her, the player had just been in the bathroom and had asked a Casino attendant to watch it for him. The employee made her give the voucher back and then had a Casino manager ban her for a week.

Also, someone on another gambling website said that he lost most of his money on a cold machine and had to resort to selling candy in the same Casino and a woman he asked to buy the candy told him off. He was able to play with his leftover money and he was lucky that one good spin put him back to even.

Quote: sabre

I thought it wasn't kosher to post about illegal activities on this board?

Also, I'm not impressed at your moral character given that stealing made you feel so good.

Thanks, I'll make sure to note this on my "Do not Give a FAQ!"

Finders keepers, if I didn't pick up the chip someone else would have. Not to mention, I was being berated by a ploppy who was convinced that me sitting down and NOT playing was the reason he was losing every hand.

I am a strong believer in Kharma and this was clearly a gift for having to put up with this individual. BTW, if a tree falls in the woods and nobody... nevermind!

Quote: Kentry

Also, someone on another gambling website said that he lost most of his money on a cold machine and had to resort to selling candy in the same Casino and a woman he asked to buy the candy told him off. He was able to play with his leftover money and he was lucky that one good spin put him back to even.

This just sounds absurd- what forum was it posted in?

Quote: sabre

I thought it wasn't kosher to post about illegal activities on this board?

Also, I'm not impressed at your moral character given that stealing made you feel so good.

Want to know an amusing double standard? That isn't considered stealing in the places I've worked. Fallen chips are treated the same way as discarded bills or coins. If we can locate the original owner before someone grabs it, great. If not, then it's not actually taken into any sort of consideration for any review unless someone is able to identify exactly when and where they dropped the chip.

At that point, we can do a CCTV review and potentially determine who grabbed it, and go from there.

Quote: Kentry

I remember a woman saying she was temporarily banned from a Casino for stealing a slot voucher from what she thought was an abandoned slot and attempting to cash it in. Unfortunately for her, the player had just been in the bathroom and had asked a Casino attendant to watch it for him. The employee made her give the voucher back and then had a Casino manager ban her for a week.

"Fishers" are caught on a regular basis. I absolutely despise those stupid "Reserved" signs and other crap that people use to hold on to a machine. They leave credits in the machines and assume that their money is secure. These incidents are fairly common, and we almost always ban the involved individual unless payment is made to whomever owned the credits.

Even then, we may still elect to get rid of them anyways.

I vaguely remember specifically that casino having a case where they pressed charges over something like that

In further review . Be very careful ESPECIALLY. At the sands
http://articles.mcall.com/2011-03-18/news/mc-pa-sands-casino-found-money-20110318_1_slot-machine-casinos-finders-keepers

Quote: Wizardofnothing

I vaguely remember specifically that casino having a case where they pressed charges over something like that

Dollar amounts over a certain threshold are reported to the Gaming Commission, and are pursued outside of the Casino. In addition, it'll be passed along to other casinos, and the information will be shared in the attempt to recover the funds for the.... Victim?

Beyond that, I don't know of any particular case where charges had been pressed or anything. At least not from our perspective or Gaming's. I know of cases where cases had gone to court over Cheat At Plays, but that's a different thing entirely. (Those also end up including being banned from all of the casinos in the province.)

Posted link

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip-sponsored-online-poker-report/borovetz-again-1495138/index47.html One of the the posts is the guy talking about selling candy in a casino.

Quote: Kentry

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip-sponsored-online-poker-report/borovetz-again-1495138/index47.html One of the the posts is the guy talking about selling candy in a casino.

Just going to throw this out there; I personally believe that you're that poster on that site. Providing that statement on the basis of similar sentence structure to the posts, both users being online at this exact time, and just a general suspicion about the legitimacy of the content posted on both sites.

Quote: Dodsferd

Quote: Kentry

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip-sponsored-online-poker-report/borovetz-again-1495138/index47.html One of the the posts is the guy talking about selling candy in a casino.

Just going to throw this out there; I personally believe that you're that poster on that site. Providing that statement on the basis of similar sentence structure to the posts, both users being online at this exact time, and just a general suspicion about the legitimacy of the content posted on both sites.

Welcome to the club.

Quote: AxelWolf

Welcome to the club.

Does this club include a T-Shirt?

How is this kid not banned on here yet.

Please just leave me alone. I'm not hurting anyone being the way I am.

Do you think that just jerking the forum around with your stories about getting beat for a bad haircut is fun?

Quote: Wizardofnothing

Do you think that just jerking the forum around with your stories about getting beat for a bad haircut is fun?

I going to have to say wherever a member asks to be left alone that should be respected.
If someone has evidence of sockpuppeting or multiple accounts present it.

It's best to Just let the kid be. It's going to come off as bullying.

Perhaps he's a guppy swimming with sharks and you understand exactly what i'm saying.

If he's pulling our leg eventually it will surface.

Usually the guys who are up to something love to engage. Rarely will they ask for mercy. He doesn't seem to have much fight in him.

It is the truth, the getting beat for a bad haircut. I tend to be naively honest.

Pfff..I never thought that such stories happen to players..And they are hilarious only at the first glance. Further they frighten me because such people are not only addicted, but also agressive. I thinks they must stop playing immediately as soon as it`s possible.
I never seen such cases before.. And they confuse me and frustrate..=|

Quote: Wizardofnothing

In further review . Be very careful ESPECIALLY. At the sands
http://articles.mcall.com/2011-03-18/news/mc-pa-sands-casino-found-money-20110318_1_slot-machine-casinos-finders-keepers

Half the loafers there at Sands are ONLY there to scoop up loose change and sleep on the slots and eating tables with no intention of playing beyond their free bus slot play.

And one big thing to note in that article that seems to huff n' puff with empty threats is...

" In most cases, police give the finder a chance to reimburse the person who lost the money, and that happens almost every day — sometimes several times — according to Trooper Joseph Evans of state police at Parx Casino in lower Bucks County.

So if they went so far to track me down(good luck with that!) I would have to simply return one crisp C-note and all is forgiven. Seems like it is not that big of a risk and considering this is not my first rodeo finding "goodies" in a casino, I think I'll be fine!

Most shoplifters get away with it too.

Quote: sabre

Most shoplifters get away with it too.

Guess you would know best.