BenJammin
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August 6th, 2013 at 7:17:06 AM permalink
The skill is in knowledge of the game. Money Management and Discipline are the keys.

Know when to quit if the machine isn't paying. All slots are not alike, you might find one that pays 97% right next to one that pays 92% or less. Call me a charlatan, but I absolutely believe in trends. If a machine is hitting I believe it will continue to hit as long as the streak or "Trend" holds.

Work the casino for free drinks. When the server finally comes around, have the full coinage in, like three dollars or max bet, and at least a hundred total coin in.(Just don't forget to cash out when you leave, like I have done more than once) Then as soon as she's out of eye-shot, slow play it until she returns with your drinks. Then, tip her well. Cocktail servers work for minimum wage and tips, so if you tip twice as much as the regular player you're likely to get better service IE More Drinks!. This may be the best return you're likely to get from playing slots!

Look for high payback machines.Certain casinos offer higher paying banks of slots, as advertised. The payback will be right there on the carousel or island of like machines, like "all slots pay back a minimum of 97.6%", but if it says "Up To" 97.6%" or so and so percent it's BS! Don't fall for that! When it says "UP TO" only one machine has to pay that percentage, and you'll never know which one it is!

Casinos must adhere to this advertising by law and believe me, gaming enforcement is spot on to this stuff. False advertising in Vegas will cost them their gaming license.

But do beware, the bigger the jackpot the less chance you have of hitting it. When the Max Jackpot is lower, it hits more often.

Certain two coin dollar slots that pay back 1600 for a two dollar investment, and $800 for a dollar. That's a nice payoff for a buck, and they hit more often than a machine that pays thousands for the biggest jackpot. But should you always play max coins? Depends on your bankroll and the machine. You see here there is no advantage to playing two dollars, if one pays 800 and two $1600, the huge jackpots are in the third coin on most reel slots, thus you must play max coins to win them.

If your budget doesn't allow for max coins on a dollar machine switch to quarters. Along the Boulder highway the quarter machines actually pay slightly better than the dollars. Go figure?

Everyone plays slots and if they tell you the don't they are a liar! Where else can you win $10,000 (or even a million or more) or more for $3 bucks? How about those Mega Bucks? Somebody is gonna win it, and it might as well be YOU!

Check IGT's web site for the recent jackpots on various games like 'Wheel of Fortune". Somebody hit it.......

When the progressive grows to millions, you'll see lines to play those.

ADDENDUM

A word about Comps! Casinos reward the avid slot player with the best comp. Free rooms, free slot tournaments, free meals and shows and rewards status such as Diamond or Platinum players club membership status. This is because casinos make their highest profit from slot players, so if you play slots you will be rewarded with better comps than a table game or video poker player. But it'll cost ya!

But, that's the deal, isn't it?

Most folks say slots are a no brainer, but it doesn't necessarily have to be that way.
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Good Luck!
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Twirdman
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August 6th, 2013 at 9:38:27 AM permalink
Quote: BenJammin

Call me a charlatan, but I absolutely believe in trends. If a machine is hitting I believe it will continue to hit as long as the streak or "Trend" holds.

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Good Luck!



Sorry to be rude but this statement is categorically true. The problem is knowing when the "Trend" will break. Saying I'll win until I stop winning is just a tautology and can't make an effective gambling strategy.
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August 6th, 2013 at 9:53:10 AM permalink
Quote: BenJammin

The skill is in knowledge of the game. Money Management and Discipline are the keys.

Know when to quit if the machine isn't paying. All slots are not alike, you might find one that pays 97% right next to one that pays 92% or less. Call me a charlatan, but I absolutely believe in trends. If a machine is hitting I believe it will continue to hit as long as the streak or "Trend" holds.

Work the casino for free drinks. When the server finally comes around, have the full coinage in, like three dollars or max bet, and at least a hundred total coin in.(Just don't forget to cash out when you leave, like I have done more than once) Then as soon as she's out of eye-shot, slow play it until she returns with your drinks. Then, tip her well. Cocktail servers work for minimum wage and tips, so if you tip twice as much as the regular player you're likely to get better service IE More Drinks!. This may be the best return you're likely to get from playing slots!



Wrong! Slots have no memory. You have the same chance to win on one spin as the next, whether the previous one won or lost. You have the same chance to hit a jackpot the spin after the jackpot as the spin you got the jackpot. Machines may have streaks, but they are random streaks and can end at any time and due to the odds are more likely to be bad streaks than good ones.

Also, servers do not look at how many credits you are playing. You can be playing one nickel on one line and you'll still get the same free drink as if you were playing $25 per line. They may not come around as much, but they do not look at how much you are playing or winning/losing.

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Mosca
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August 6th, 2013 at 11:30:59 AM permalink
1) My biggest slot win EVER was on a machine that was on a "death march": spin after spin without even a cherry, 30 in a row, then 5X-5X-5X.

2) I was sitting next to a lady who'd hit a jackpot, I forget how much but it was a nice one on a penny Mr Cashman. Over $3000. The attendant asked her to "spin it off", and on that spin she hit another Mr Cashman for another hand pay, something like $2300.

3) There actually is some decent advice here. Budget your money, work the comps. The cocktail waitresses don't pay any attention to your machines, but tipping them will get better service.
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August 6th, 2013 at 11:53:45 AM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

Saying I'll win until I stop winning is just a tautology and can't make an effective gambling strategy.



Um, no. A tautology would be "I'll win when I win."
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teliot
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August 6th, 2013 at 1:24:35 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Um, no. A tautology would be "I'll win when I win."

A "tautology" is a logical statement that is always true. For example, for any statement P, both (P imples P) and (P OR not-P) are tautologies. Your example "I'll win when I win" is simply "P implies P."

If (I am winning) then (I will win until I stop winning) is also a tautology, at least on this planet. I can imagine no circumstances for which this statement is false. Any time something is happening, it will continue to happen until it no longer happens. And if the thing isn't happening to begin with, the premise is false so the implication is true by default.

Moreover, the word "tautology" is often used metaphorically, like the word "literally," to juxtapose two elements as equivalent that may not seem to be at first glance. Although the word "literally" is overused, I appreciate a writer who uses "tautology" in its non-literal sense. Although Twirdman's use is entirely correct in this case, even if he stretched its meaning in order to make a point, I would find myself appreciative of his dexterity with language.
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August 6th, 2013 at 3:20:00 PM permalink
Is this a joke?
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August 6th, 2013 at 3:31:36 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Is this a joke?

Isn't everything?

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BenJammin
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August 7th, 2013 at 8:05:39 AM permalink
I usually don't bump my own threads, but this needs clarification at least for some of you.

A "Trend" is a winning streak. Have you ever been on one? For some apparently not. Now I generally don't advocate playing reel slots, as they have the highest profit level (IE house advantage) for the casino overall.

With correct money management you can win at slots occasionally and still get all those perks (Comps) that the casinos award to slot players.

You simply apply the same money management strategy to slots that you would with any other game.

Set a limit, and stick to it.

Pre-determine a loss limit and a win goal and adhere to those numbers no matter what, that's the discipline part.

If you hit your loss limit you leave that machine.

If you hit your win goal your on a streak, pocket half your winnings and play out your "excess". If the machine is hot you'll continue to win.

When you hit the win goal again, you pocket half the profit and play on. Why would you ever want to leave a hot machine?

Even if you peter out that coin in you'll still have the profit in your pocket.

Now the casinos don't rate you on how much you win or lose, they rate you on your play and time.

So, if you play those high pay-back percentage machines and quit while you're ahead you'll earn comps.

I know of certain properties that will comp you Rooms, food, and drinks for a minimal level of play. They hope to entice you back.

My friend dropped a grand at a certain casino and was invited back for three free slot tournaments, free rooms for over 3 years and he still to this day gets comp offers in the mail, and this was back in 2008. No joke. He then won one of those tournaments and got his money back and then some, but he put it all back in.

Whatever.

I've won on slots, enough to pay for the whole trip. I don't play them much, but I know how to play them when I do.

I've been on some glorious winning "Trends" and I've also lost my ass a few times. That's gambling :)

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August 7th, 2013 at 8:13:18 AM permalink
Quote: BenJammin

With correct money management you can win at slots occasionally and still get all those perks (Comps)


With incorrect money management, you can also win at slots occasionally and get comps too.
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August 7th, 2013 at 8:14:02 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

With incorrect money management, you can still win at slots occasionally and get comps too.


With no money management whatsoever, you can still win at slots occasionally and get comps too. :)
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August 7th, 2013 at 8:16:23 AM permalink
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With no money management whatsoever, you can still win at slots occasionally and get comps too. :)


LOL...touché!
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August 7th, 2013 at 11:44:37 AM permalink
Like it or not, the greater majority of passive gamblers in Las Vegas are slot players.

We're just trying to help them a little. If they're Savvy enough to find their way to this board, maybe there will be some hope for them eventually.

You might be able to stretch that gambling buck out just a bit and even hit a decent jackpot.

I HOPE YOU DO!

Good Luck!!
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