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etablegames
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July 6th, 2011 at 11:51:32 AM permalink
Break Poker is played using a standard deck of 52 cards plus a Joker. To begin, players place a Main bet and optionally one or both of the bonus bets: Break Bonus and Dealer Break. The object of the game is to use 5 of the 7 cards to make a Lucky Break: a two-card low hand, consisting of a pair, and a three-card high hand, consisting of a straight or three-of-a-kind (Trips). The Joker can be used in a Straight, Trips, or as an Ace. If a 5 card Lucky Break cannot be obtained, the player's three-card high hand must outrank his two-card low hand. Card value combinations ranked from highest to lowest are:

Three-of-a-Kind, Straight, Pairs and High Card Values [no Flush]

Main Bet
> Dealer's 7-card hand must qualify with an Ace-high if his hand does not have a pair, straight or trips. If the dealer's hand does not qualify, the player's Main Bet is a push. Any optional side wagers made remain in play.
> Dealer must set his 5-card hand House Way.
> Any Lucky Break hand outranks any non-Lucky Break hand.
> Dealer's Lucky Break vs. Player's Lucky Break, or Dealer's non-Lucky Break vs. Player's non-Lucky Break
* Player wins 1 to 1, if the player's high hand beats the dealer's high hand and the player's low hand beats the dealer's low hand.
* Player pushes when either his low hand or high hand wins and the other one loses against the dealer's low hand or high hand.
* Player loses when the dealer's high hand beats the player's high hand and the dealer's low hand beats the player's low hand. Note that dealer wins hands with equal ranking (i.e. copy).

Break Bonus

The Break Bonus side wager pays odds according to the paytable, if the player's hand consists of a Lucky Break.
- Lucky Break Hand Payout
- Five Aces 200 to 1
- Five of a Kind, 2s-Ks 100 to 1
- Pair + Trips 6 to 1
- Pair + AKQ 3 to 1
- Pair + Straights 1 to 1

Dealer Break

The Dealer Break side wager pays 4 to 1 if both the dealer's hand and the player's hand consist of a Lucky Break. If only the Dealer's hand consists of a Lucky Break, the player is paid 1 to 1.

Check out the game at The Orleans, Las Vegas or Boomtown, Reno or www.etablegames.com.
Nareed
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July 6th, 2011 at 12:11:48 PM permalink
To qualify my vote, for me "definitely try" includes trying an online sim of the game. But it sounds interesting enough to see how it plays.
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MrCasinoGames
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July 6th, 2011 at 12:15:15 PM permalink
I will give it a Try.
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July 7th, 2011 at 4:36:11 AM permalink
Yes, it seems like Pai Gow.

Curious that they don't count a flush as a winner. Or even in the 7 card bonus.

I'd give it a try, but wouldn't bother with the side bets.
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July 7th, 2011 at 8:20:58 AM permalink
My eyes started to glaze at" dealer must qualify".
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RoyalBJ
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July 18th, 2011 at 12:25:42 PM permalink
This is nothing like a rummy game or a Mahjong game. Are you sure?
RoyalBJ
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August 23rd, 2011 at 3:55:49 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear


Curious that they don't count a flush as a winner. Or even in the 7 card bonus.



Perhaps (1) just to be different from all other games - not a Pai Gow game (2) to simplify [How many casual poker players can not "see" a flush? a lot] (3) how often would one get a 3 card flush out of 7 cards? very very often (4) did not hurt anything. Just my opinion. Tried it and liked it.
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August 23rd, 2011 at 4:52:52 PM permalink
I should have a page on the game within a week.
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Ayecarumba
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August 23rd, 2011 at 6:46:18 PM permalink
Quote: etablegames


Main Bet
> Any Lucky Break hand outranks any non-Lucky Break hand.

* Player pushes when either his low hand or high hand wins and the other one loses against the dealer's low hand or high hand.



So, even if the players "luck break" contains a 2-3-4 straight (is A-2-3 the lowest straight, or the second highest?) in the three card hand, and the dealer does not have a pair, but makes 3-4-5 for the straight, the player still wins?

I can see potential problems when the dealer incorrectly mucks the player's two card hand thinking it was the two discards.

Can a player request that the dealer set their hand "house way"? If so, does it get set before or after the dealer sets his hand?

The game appears vulnerable to a full table of players sharing information on their holdings. It would mean more pushes than wins for the house.


Check out a demonstration on youtube here
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RoyalBJ
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August 23rd, 2011 at 9:44:06 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

(1) So, even if the players "luck break" contains a 2-3-4 straight (is A-2-3 the lowest straight, or the second highest?) in the three card hand, and the dealer does not have a pair, but makes 3-4-5 for the straight, the player still wins?

(2) I can see potential problems when the dealer incorrectly mucks the player's two card hand thinking it was the two discards.

(3) Can a player request that the dealer set their hand "house way"? If so, does it get set before or after the dealer sets his hand?

(4) The game appears vulnerable to a full table of players sharing information on their holdings. It would mean more pushes than wins for the house.



(1) The dealer told me, (A-2-3) is lowest for the 3-card high hand, just like the regular poker / 3 card poker, unlike Pai Gow poker. A lucky Break is a 5-card hand, thus say [2-2, A-2-3] wins over [A-K, K-Q-J] which is not a luck break. They said a lucky break is either a full house or a "straight house", both are 5-card hands, thus, it is higher than a 3-card straight (obviously, lol). A 5-card lucky break trumps all non-lucky breaks.

(2) The two discards were removed first, then the dealer opens his cards and set hand, and then the dealer opens players' 5 card hands. I did not see any errors. I saw The Orleans allows player's for one time "mistake", e.g. low hand is set to be higher than high hand.

(3) Players' hands are always set prior to the setting of dealer's hand, house way or not (see (2)). I saw dealer help player set house way.

(4) Sharing info at The Orleans seems allowed. (I don't know how this would change anything.) The pit boss said BP has a lower push rate than Pai Gow poker. Only about 32% for Break Poker vs Pai Gow Poker's 41.5%, see WOO.

The dealer in the Youtube is super cute, but I did not find her at The Orleans.

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