fixed limit holdem
Range is good for tournaments (level changes) and players that go on tilt. It's a good way to understand the broader spectrum of possibilities for someone at any given time.
Yep. We call it "ABC Poker." Check/Fold when you don't got it, max it out when you do and enough poor players at lower limits will usually try to pay you off.Quote: MrGoldenSunAt low stakes, you can usually play a generic strategy and win...
Quote: RomesYep. We call it "ABC Poker." Check/Fold when you don't got it, max it out when you do and enough poor players at lower limits will usually try to pay you off.
Wait Romes slow down I can't write that fast. So I bet when I have IT and fold when I don't? What happens if I have IT and bet but then I look down and I've lost IT. Someone could steal IT or what happens if I drop IT on the floor? Can I just pick IT back up? :)
I did not write that ;-)Quote: PokerGrinderWait Romes slow down I can't write that fast. So I bet when I have IT and fold when I don't? What happens if I have IT and bet but then I look down and I've lost IT. Someone could steal IT or what happens if I drop IT on the floor? Can I just pick IT back up? :)
Quote: RomesYep. We call it "ABC Poker." Check/Fold when you don't got it, max it out when you do and enough poor players at lower limits will usually try to pay you off.
I call this "Live Video Poker" You only play strong hands, and do not bother trying to bluff anyone off their hand. The caps on Limit Hold Em make it nearly impossible to use bet size as a weapon. If you play this way, you do not need to know a lot about your opponent's patterns.
It is hard to win consistently since the value of skill is near zero in this game.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLI did not write that ;-)
Or did you...? Maybe you hacked my account and wrote it. It does sort of sound like you :)
Quote: Ayecarumbathe value of skill is near zero in this game.
That is not true. There are very wide skill differences among players. Variance is still applicable as always, but it is certainly possible to be a much better player than the rest of the table and to be playing with an edge.
Quote: MrGoldenSunThat is not true. There are very wide skill differences among players. Variance is still applicable as always, but it is certainly possible to be a much better player than the rest of the table and to be playing with an edge.
True, but perhaps only at the 8/16 kill level and above. 2/4 or 4/8 is really "no fold em", as many players will simply call down hands they might otherwise have folded in no limit.
Quote: AyecarumbaTrue, but perhaps only at the 8/16 kill level and above. 2/4 or 4/8 is really "no fold em", as many players will simply call down hands they might otherwise have folded in no limit.
Having everyone calling every bet is extremely profitable for a good player. "No foldem" is sometimes a roller coaster, but I love a table where nobody can fold a hand. It's the most profitable game type if you know how to play the right strategy, which is a skill in itself. It can be frustrating in some ways though, because you will get outdrawn pretty often.
Quote: PokerGrinderWait Romes slow down I can't write that fast. So I bet when I have IT and fold when I don't? What happens if I have IT and bet but then I look down and I've lost IT. Someone could steal IT or what happens if I drop IT on the floor? Can I just pick IT back up? :)
I have a reoccurring dream where I am involved in a pot with heavy action and suddenly I look back at my hand and it is total garbage, or there is an extra card. It's a nightmare.
At a poker table once several years ago, I squeezed my cards, and found I had a three of spades, and a three of spades. "Uh, wad? Dealer, please stop the action, call the floor please; no I won't say exactly why out loud across the table, but there could be a teensy little problem about to get bigger and bigger if everybody keeps betting." Not least of which would be how to count my outs!Quote: bobbartopI have a reoccurring dream where I am involved in a pot with heavy action and suddenly I look back at my hand and it is total garbage, or there is an extra card. It's a nightmare.
If you have a 2nd or 3rd pair on the flop, and someone else has top pair, you only have a 20%, or so, chance of winning the hand. So, 2nd and 3rd pair are not profitable in the long run. So, if there's no compelling reason to play 2nd or 3rd pair, you should dump it.
If you understand that, then you realize A K Q J have the best chances of flopping top pair, you can adjust your starting hands accordingly.
So, getting a read on an opponent is always helpful, but it's not necessary in hold'em.
Of course, that can't be confirmed if the law of large numbers and the rest of probability math is simply thrown out. Or, if you're getting cheated etc... etc...
Quote: frisbee25I need to figure out ace high and 2nd pair. Ace King high seems important 9 handed
If by "important" you mean "strong preflop," it is. Postflop depends on all sorts of things, like the board, the action, the number of opponents, etc.
Quote:and maybe 2nd pair pocket pairs also. I'm not so sure it's a fold or call down with pocket pairs.
Again, too general to give a narrow answer. Some things that make one pair more likely to be good: few opponents, not much action, board is unconnected. If there are many opponents, lots of aggression, and a connected board, that's bad.
Quote: frisbee25So there is no solution to multiplayer like heads up. Lose to a tight player in spots and get bluffed by a loose player it seems
If you are playing top pair on the flop, there's no reason to get bluffed in a limit game. Just check call if you're worried. As for losing to a tight player. You should probably be the tightest player there. Only play if you have 2 high cards.
So, starting hands A-9, K-9, Q-9, J-9, 10-9. Pairs of AA, KK, QQ, JJ, 1010. Raise preflop with AA, KK, QQ, A-J, K-J, QJ.
If you noticed you have 2 cards that can possibly flop top pair this way. As oppossed to A-3 where only the A has a chance at top pair.
Top pair has the best chance of winning, and your playing the cards that will get you top pair. That's limit hold'em.
