He's at Delaware Park right now but planning to make his exit. He reported in his blog that there are VBJ machines there and one bank has good rules, 6 decks with 2/3's penetration with $5 to $100 bettting. Do you BJ players think this is an exploitable game?
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I would want some solid evidence that the machine actually represents a 6 deck shoe with 2/3rd pen. Just saying so on a help screen or on the machine's outer shell isn't good enough for me. I'd want one of the following:
1) Cite a Nevada state law showing that the manufacturer/casino is liable for penalties if the shuffle point stated isn't accurately reflected by the game.
2) PAR sheet for the machine
3) Statistical analysis of observed data. Show that there is a correlation from round to round, that prior cards dealt affect the chances of future cards. The running count of any given round should tend to move in the opposite direction from the previous round if the machine doesn't shuffle every round.
Of course promotions can make VBJ attractive. However, the trend is for casinos to restrict or eliminate VBJ from slot related promotions.
Quote: sabreMy take Re: VBJ. Casinos are ultra paranoid about counters. Why would they allow a countable machine on the floor?
I would want some solid evidence that the machine actually represents a 6 deck shoe with 2/3rd pen. Just saying so on a help screen or on the machine's outer shell isn't good enough for me. I'd want one of the following:
1) Cite a Nevada state law showing that the manufacturer/casino is liable for penalties if the shuffle point stated isn't accurately reflected by the game.
2) PAR sheet for the machine
3) Statistical analysis of observed data. Show that there is a correlation from round to round, that prior cards dealt affect the chances of future cards. The running count of any given round should tend to move in the opposite direction from the previous round if the machine doesn't shuffle every round.
Of course promotions can make VBJ attractive. However, the trend is for casinos to restrict or eliminate VBJ from slot related promotions.
These machines have been exploited well enough in the past.
Quote: mickeycrimmThese machines have been exploited well enough in the past.
What does the past have to do with the now? A firmware update changing from a shuffle point to shuffling each round could be done in minutes leaving no indication of the change to the user. Using past results as evidence that the shuffle point is accurate is pretty risky.
Quote: sabreWhat does the past have to do with the now? A firmware update changing from a shuffle point to shuffling each round could be done in minutes leaving no indication of the change to the user. Using past results as evidence that the shuffle point is accurate is pretty risky.
It might not be your cup of tea but I guarantee you there are lurkers here who are going to check the game out.