MrLeft
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October 28th, 2014 at 5:14:42 AM permalink
At the Montreal Casino our Bad Beat Jackpot is at $681k and if not won will cross $700k this Thursday or Friday.
Curious as to what the actual record is for real world games (saw $1.8M for online)?

I googled and found a real world at combined Ceasar's properties AC hitting $787k in 2012 and $914k in Vegas in 2013. Having a hard time believing that's the highest! I seem to recall hearing of one at Foxwoods around the same amount but can't find anything online.

FYI .. the last jackpot was won in late May. $1 is taken per cash game pot above $20. 80% goes to the current pot, 20% goes to next pot (already removed from the current total). There is no rake at all on the BBJ. It currently goes up $5-6k per day mon-thur and 6-7k per day fri-sun. We've actually added tables to go from 18 to 23 to keep up with demand.

Quad 8s and up are needed to win. Pockets must be used (pairs for quads). Breakdown is 50% loser, 25% winner and 25% table.

There's a secondary BBJ of $10k for AAAJJ or better bad beats (taken from the 20% dedicated to the next jackpot).
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October 29th, 2014 at 1:29:50 PM permalink
Quote: MrLeft

At the Montreal Casino our Bad Beat Jackpot is at $681k and if not won will cross $700k this Thursday or Friday.
Curious as to what the actual record is for real world games (saw $1.8M for online)?

I googled and found a real world at combined Ceasar's properties AC hitting $787k in 2012 and $914k in Vegas in 2013. Having a hard time believing that's the highest! I seem to recall hearing of one at Foxwoods around the same amount but can't find anything online.

FYI .. the last jackpot was won in late May. $1 is taken per cash game pot above $20. 80% goes to the current pot, 20% goes to next pot (already removed from the current total). There is no rake at all on the BBJ. It currently goes up $5-6k per day mon-thur and 6-7k per day fri-sun. We've actually added tables to go from 18 to 23 to keep up with demand.

Quad 8s and up are needed to win. Pockets must be used (pairs for quads). Breakdown is 50% loser, 25% winner and 25% table.

There's a secondary BBJ of $10k for AAAJJ or better bad beats (taken from the 20% dedicated to the next jackpot).



Busy room. Casino Arizona's Poker Room in Scottsdale is busier but the qualifier is lower so it hits much more often. I've never heard of a million dollar Bad Beat Jackpot, so maybe the 914k you found is the record?


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MrLeft
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November 7th, 2014 at 8:33:05 PM permalink
We hit $750,081 today! Should hit a million before the holidays if it's not won before that!

Yeah .. we're far from the busiest .. but we do ok .. getting really busy last few weeks though obviously .. lol. I left at 10pm tonight and there was 111 people on the 1/2 list waiting to play. Not even really peaking at 10pm either! lol

Someone today told me they saw a $1.1 million bad beat at Fallsview in Niagara .. but a Google search turned up nothing so i'm pretty doubtful!
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November 7th, 2014 at 10:01:42 PM permalink
Wow, those are high.


For the record, a lot of poker rooms are moving away from the Bad Beat, in favor of a High Hand jackpot. The reason is simple:

Give a guy a few hundred bucks, and that money is going to be in play. Maybe at the poker table, maybe at one of the table games, but it's gonna see action.

Give a guy a few hundred grand, and a couple grand will go into play, but the rest is heading home, spent outside of the casino.

So if you were a casino, would you rather give a thousand guys a few hundred bucks spread out over a few thousand hours, or one guy a few hundred grand all at once?
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November 7th, 2014 at 10:06:03 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Wow, those are high.


For the record, a lot of poker rooms are moving away from the Bad Beat, in favor of a High Hand jackpot. The reason is simple:

Give a guy a few hundred bucks, and that money is going to be in play. Maybe at the poker table, maybe at one of the table games, but it's gonna see action.

Give a guy a few hundred grand, and a couple grand will go into play, but the rest is heading home, spent outside of the casino.

So if you were a casino, would you rather give a thousand guys a few hundred bucks spread out over a few thousand hours, or one guy a few hundred grand all at once?



Thinking regulars, your way.

But how many people are drawn by the huge number, when they would otherwise not be?
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November 7th, 2014 at 10:44:07 PM permalink
It's effective and has been implemented a long time by the casino industry. Bad beats were different and do produce lots of word of mouth advertising and incentive for people to visit though. Made me sick seeing the BBJ $9,999 at the local knowing they've probably done this. Cheap tricks and cheapness have been all around there and they're already driving loyals away, so just one more thing. Too much can backfire but casinos don't get this even after bankruptcy.
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November 8th, 2014 at 1:15:22 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Wow, those are high.


For the record, a lot of poker rooms are moving away from the Bad Beat, in favor of a High Hand jackpot. The reason is simple:

Give a guy a few hundred bucks, and that money is going to be in play. Maybe at the poker table, maybe at one of the table games, but it's gonna see action.

Give a guy a few hundred grand, and a couple grand will go into play, but the rest is heading home, spent outside of the casino.

So if you were a casino, would you rather give a thousand guys a few hundred bucks spread out over a few thousand hours, or one guy a few hundred grand all at once?

Of course 100 guys 1 or 2 hundred. However a bigger BB JP attracts more players. For instance when the Orleans BB JP used to get past 70k they gained 50% extra player. People love the chance at a big JP.
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November 8th, 2014 at 2:34:14 AM permalink
The good compromise that I see a lot is a Monte Carlo board. Hands of Quads or better broken up into separate progressive jackpots. You get the attraction of growing numbers getting word of mouth going, but they're still small enough where you might get it back.
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November 13th, 2014 at 10:46:09 PM permalink
Quote: Face

Thinking regulars, your way.

But how many people are drawn by the huge number, when they would otherwise not be?



I know it was a rhetorical question .. lol .. but the answer is a LOT! Some say our numbers have doubled .. I'm not sure it's that high .. but not far from that! There's a native casino on a reserve not too far from the Island of Montreal that usually does ok and we've pillaged some of their players, along with a few new players, and the our regulars who come more often and/or play longer sessions.

BTW .. today we beat the record for the 4 room Ceasar's in AC by a few hundred .. we're now at $787,671

Only one left that I know of in a real room is Planet H in Vegas last year of $914k
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November 14th, 2014 at 11:55:25 AM permalink
I remember four winds casino in new buffalo, Michigan had a static million dollar BBJ on their electronic tables. It was ridiculously hard to hit though. Might have been something like a royal flush has to beat quads or better. The closest ive ever come to hitting a bbj was at the Orleans. I lost with queens full to a straight flush. He hit the low end of the straight flush on the river. If it was the high end it would've given me quads also.
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December 12th, 2014 at 12:57:53 AM permalink
FYI .. the Bad Beat Jackpot was won a few weeks ago at $817k .. giving the winner (loser) over $408k .. and although the $817 is short of the highest I've found, because the winner of that one only got 20% of the $914k, I think the $408 portion was indeed a poker room record!

It restarted at around $150k and is now at $223k.
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