Asswhoopermcdaddy
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February 27th, 2013 at 7:22:46 PM permalink
Hi guys/gals. I've got another poker question being that I'm a newbie in this field. While I was playing on the East Coast, I was in the big blind, pre-flop on a 1-1 No Limit Holdem game. The small blind checked. Dealer motioned in my direction. I tried to raise $5. Dealer said I was not allowed to and would have to wait after the flop.

Any idea what just happened?
sodawater
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February 27th, 2013 at 7:36:23 PM permalink
he probably thought you checked via some sort of tapping motion. if you really didn't act yet you could always call the floor and the flop would go back in the deck.
tringlomane
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February 27th, 2013 at 7:41:40 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

he probably thought you checked via some sort of tapping motion.



Likely this. Don't make any motion that is generally considered as a check if you intend to raise.

Note: You are allowed to raise in this situation, so you should have at least argued his poor response.
Zcore13
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February 27th, 2013 at 7:56:48 PM permalink
If I was the Supervisor and was called to the table for this situation I would ask the Dealer what exactly he/she saw. If the Dealer says the player made a motion that was perceived to be a check, then that would be the decision. Just because a player didn't mean to or thinks they didn't check doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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Asswhoopermcdaddy
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February 27th, 2013 at 8:46:32 PM permalink
I had tossed a $5 chip into betting area and had verbally said raise. Maybe he ignored it?
sodawater
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February 27th, 2013 at 9:51:53 PM permalink
Quote: Asswhoopermcdaddy

I had tossed a $5 chip into betting area and had verbally said raise. Maybe he ignored it?



what matters is what you did before that.

the only other thing i can think of is maybe the dealer thought you were under the gun instead of the BB, and had already called.

Or is it possible you WERE UTG instead of BB?
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February 27th, 2013 at 10:59:21 PM permalink
Generally in a game like that he would have had a reason to disallow the raise, and if there was no reason, usually a player would call them out on it, or at least question it in one capacity or another, unless they saw it too? Without being there it would be very hard to know exactly what happened, and what their reasoning was.
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AlanMendelson
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February 28th, 2013 at 1:00:46 AM permalink
You raised a really good question, but as you can see from the previous responses, we can't answer specifically here. We just responded with more questions or possibilities.

You should have immediately asked "why can't I raise?" and you wouldve gotten an answer. Maybe the dealer did make a mistake? We don't know.

Dealers do make mistakes. So do players.

But as you described the situation you were entitled to raise as the big blind as was mentioned above.

What happened to the $5 chip?
tringlomane
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February 28th, 2013 at 4:04:44 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson


What happened to the $5 chip?



I'm sure it was returned to him if the dealer forbid him to raise. But as more details have come out, more likely I think either the dealer thought OP was UTG instead of BB, or OP forgot he limped in UTG (likely the former scenario). $1/$1 games are uncommon and requires two checks to see a flop, which leads to an opportunity for a dealer error.
DJTeddyBear
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February 28th, 2013 at 5:49:35 AM permalink
Yeah, $1/$1 is uncommon. But I believe Bally's is the only casino in AC that has it, and they've had it for years, so the dealers should be used to it.

FYI They also have a $1/$3 with a $300 max buy in. The max on the $1/$1 is $100. They don't do $1/$2.

I echo the other comments. Dealers do make mistakes. The poster should have asked why and/or asked for a floor person's ruling.
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