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February 12th, 2013 at 3:49:39 PM permalink
Does anyone know any lawyers with table games experience in Las Vegas?

Thanks
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February 12th, 2013 at 3:55:01 PM permalink
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Does anyone know any lawyers with table games experience in Las Vegas?

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What's the punch line?
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February 12th, 2013 at 3:58:51 PM permalink
Just about every lawyer who has ever vacationed in Vegas has a good deal of table games experience.
And if you pay him a fee for his legal services, he will undoubtedly gain additional table game experience.
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February 12th, 2013 at 4:08:18 PM permalink
I got an idea and want to get a patent out of it. Maybe I didn't ask the correct question. I really need one who has experience in the legal process of getting a table game patent
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February 12th, 2013 at 4:08:51 PM permalink
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What's the punch line?



I want to invent a table game.
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February 12th, 2013 at 4:10:49 PM permalink
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Just about every lawyer who has ever vacationed in Vegas has a good deal of table games experience.
And if you pay him a fee for his legal services, he will undoubtedly gain additional table game experience.



I have talked to a inventor. He said," his lawyer screwed him up." So the inventor lost his chance to get his patent done on time
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February 12th, 2013 at 4:11:01 PM permalink
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I want to invent a table game.

sorry, I got it.....good luck
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February 12th, 2013 at 4:11:27 PM permalink
Stick around. You will get good advice. Just wait.
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February 12th, 2013 at 4:19:17 PM permalink
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Does anyone know any lawyers with table games experience in Las Vegas?

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Howard & Howard, Las Vegas office for gaming patent needs.
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February 12th, 2013 at 4:20:11 PM permalink
See. it did not take long.
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February 12th, 2013 at 4:25:29 PM permalink
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sorry, I got it.....good luck



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February 12th, 2013 at 4:27:04 PM permalink
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Howard & Howard, Las Vegas office for gaming patent needs.



Thanks, Dan

the installation of your pai gow games has increased. Congrats!
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February 12th, 2013 at 4:28:50 PM permalink
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See. it did not take long.



I know I can get a lot of help here. Thanks

I know H&H would do, but I still want to know others who are in this town, so I can have more choices.
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February 12th, 2013 at 4:39:54 PM permalink
My lawyer got both of my gaming patents approved, and the guy never tried to rip me off once over the years I've been dealing with him... come to think of it, he's the only honest lawyer I ever met (including my own dead brother).

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These both just got approved last year, and I am a happy customer!

His name is Jon Shackelford, no relation to the Michael Shakelford (The Wizard of Vegas), as far as I know,

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If you call him, please tell him "Marty Wollner" refered you.
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February 14th, 2013 at 4:05:04 PM permalink
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My lawyer got both of my gaming patents approved, and the guy never tried to rip me off once over the 7 years I've been dealing with him... come to think of it, he's the only honest lawyer I ever met (including my own dead brother).

The RollStation

TruePlace Bets

These both just got approved last year, and I am a happy customer!

His name is Jon Shackelford, no relation to the Michael Shakelford (The Wizard of Vegas), as far as I know,

517 879 0261

Endurance Law Group, PLC

If you call him, please tell him "Marty Wollner" refered you.



Thanks a lot. I will give him a call or shoot him an email. Good luck to your games.

Do you mind I ask how much you have spent on one of your games? So I can do a budget. you don't have to answer, since it is impolite
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February 14th, 2013 at 4:07:53 PM permalink
I list a couple here. You should read the articles while you're there.
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February 14th, 2013 at 4:11:19 PM permalink
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I list a couple here. You should read the articles while you're there.



Big help! Thanks a lot. Lol
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February 18th, 2013 at 10:25:49 AM permalink
Quote: investor

Quote: discflicker

My lawyer got both of my gaming patents approved, and the guy never tried to rip me off once over the 7 years I've been dealing with him... come to think of it, he's the only honest lawyer I ever met (including my own dead brother).

The RollStation

TruePlace Bets

These both just got approved last year, and I am a happy customer!

His name is Jon Shackelford, no relation to the Michael Shakelford (The Wizard of Vegas), as far as I know,

517 879 0261

Endurance Law Group, PLC

If you call him, please tell him "Marty Wollner" refered you.



Thanks a lot. I will give him a call or shoot him an email. Good luck to your games.

Do you mind I ask how much you have spent on one of your games? So I can do a budget. you don't have to answer, since it is impolite




One of the best resources you can find is right here on this BB, in particular, the threads started by PaiGow Dan.

Well, first off, these are not individual games, these are "METHODS", upon which a plathera of games could be developed.

There are a lot of lesssons to be learned about this process, however.

I won't drag out our entire story, except for this: We were faced with making several decisions on how to get my concepts protected. We made two major mistakes:

1) We went to the wrong attornies, TWICE, and one of these was LegalZoom.com. Bottom line: FIND A GOOD LAWYER THAT SPECIALIZES IN GAMING!!

2) We filed both provisional and Utility patents for both The Roll Station (US Patent No. 8,246,446) and TruePlace Wagering (US Patent No. 8,323,100)

I would say the above mistakes cost us about $25,000 and 2 elapsed years of wasted time.

The point is this: You will be faced with a set of decisions to make. Try to make the right choices by doing research.. exactly what you're doing right now, and always retain a positive attitude. You just might get lucky, but plan on gambling $50k if you want it done right.

Visiting a G2E wouldn't hurt either.

Good luck!
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