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February 27th, 2011 at 9:17:41 AM permalink
This is a new poker variant on field trial at the Golden Nugget. It has also been at the Santa Fe Star in New Mexico for a while.

Here is a link to my page on the game. Before I make it public, any questions or comments?
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February 27th, 2011 at 10:04:26 AM permalink
Sounds like a carnival game I might enjoy. Hope it is still there when I get back to Vegas, no trips planned for 11 months sigh.
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February 27th, 2011 at 10:08:50 AM permalink
Shufflemaster is behind the game, so I think they will give it the old college try.
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February 27th, 2011 at 11:46:16 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

This is a new poker variant on field trial at the Golden Nugget. It has also been at the Santa Fe Star in New Mexico for a while.

Here is a link to my page on the game. Before I make it public, any questions or comments?



Did you play it?
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10042-woes-black-sheep-game-ii/#post151727
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February 27th, 2011 at 12:56:22 PM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

Did you play it?



Yes. It had a good crowd. The dealer was making a lot of mistakes.
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February 27th, 2011 at 2:04:03 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

This is a new poker variant on field trial at the Golden Nugget. It has also been at the Santa Fe Star in New Mexico for a while.

Here is a link to my page on the game. Before I make it public, any questions or comments?



The link did't work for me. I got a "page not found".
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February 27th, 2011 at 3:36:21 PM permalink
I played this game last night along with The Nugget's other new game, 'Ruperts Island'.

The game had reasonable player participation although the table limit was only $5 and this will alone attract players. All players were betting $5 on the ante and all players were playing the 'Pocket pair' sidebet which is similar to 'PairPlus' in 3CP. The dealer was quite slow and deliberate but I feel that she was making sure that she didn't make a mistake with a new game - it was being watched quite closely at times which is a good thing.

The biigeest downside in my view is that it's obvious where the house edge comes from and it can be a little frustrating in some situations. Players have to discard 1 or their 3 cards before the 2 'flop' cards are dealt whereas the dealer gets to discard after seeing both 'flop' cards. For example, if you hold A,Q,6 then you would keep the A,Q - if the 'flop' comes 8 then you should call. If the next 'flop' card is a 3 then the dealer turns over K,Q,3 it's a little annoying for the dealer to discard the Q and keep the K,3 to make a pair of 3's.

I spoke to one of the managers that I know quite well there and the feedbcak was that the drops were quite low on the game to date. $5 limits + $5 players will equal a low drop at places like the Nugget IMO.

Overall, the game was reasonable and it could have some appeal to 3CP players and similar. The decision on whether you should call on the flop is printed on the rack cards so it's quite easy to 'play by the book' with this game. I can't see it reaching the popularity of UTHE or even Mississippi Stud (which has around 130 tables now), although I expect that it will appear in some casinos in Vegas as Shuffle Master are behind it.
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February 27th, 2011 at 3:56:03 PM permalink
Quote: Switch



The biigeest downside in my view is that it's obvious where the house edge comes from and it can be a little frustrating in some situations. Players have to discard 1 or their 3 cards before the 2 'flop' cards are dealt whereas the dealer gets to discard after seeing both 'flop' cards. For example, if you hold A,Q,6 then you would keep the A,Q - if the 'flop' comes 8 then you should call. If the next 'flop' card is a 3 then the dealer turns over K,Q,3 it's a little annoying for the dealer to discard the Q and keep the K,3 to make a pair of 3's.



I agree wholeheartedly. I enjoy games much more when the house edge "seems" lower. In EZ Pai Gow, all you're worrying about is copies and the dealer getting Q high Pai Gows. In craps, you don't really even know where it is.

But I hate four card poker, because the dealer gets an extra card. And I don't think I would like this either, because the dealer pretty much gets an extra card here too.
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