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- Position the 00 at the 12:00 position and the 0 at the 6:00 position.
- The numbers at the top of the wheel are 13, 1, 00, 27, 10*, 25. This must simply be memorized.
- Note that all low odd numbers (from 1 to 17) are on the left side and the high odds (19 to 35) on the right side.
- Unless otherwise stated in rule 2, for the low odds, go 4 positions counterclockwise from the last one, and for the high odds, to 4 positions clockwise.
- All even numbers are directly across the wheel, 180 degrees, from the preceding odd number.

* The 10 does not need to be memorized, as it is directly across from the 9, as stated in rule 5. However, it must be noted that some even number is in that spot.

Any questions? Any suggestions on an even simpler way to put it? All due credit to AZD for his help with this.

The question for the poll is what do you think?

wheel, the outcomes would still be

random. I don't understand what the

point of this is. The number arrangement

on the wheel has nothing to do with

the outcomes.

I always assumed it’s ordered like this for mainly historical reasons so that a biased wheel is harder to spot/exploit. If a certain quadrant of wheel is hitting more than it should, it’s easier to see that when the quadrant’s numbers are 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 instead of 27-10-25-29-12-8-19-31-18.Quote:EvenBobIf they were in numerical order around the

wheel, the outcomes would still be

random. I don't understand what the

point of this is. The number arrangement

on the wheel has nothing to do with

the outcomes.

Quote:EvenBobIf they were in numerical order around the

wheel, the outcomes would still be

random. I don't understand what the

point of this is. The number arrangement

on the wheel has nothing to do with

the outcomes.

You're absolutely right. I think the reason the numbers are spread around is to make it more difficult to notice a biased wheel. For example, if the part of the wheel around 23 were lowest, then you notice a lot of numbers winning in the low 20's. Make the order seem random and it is harder to tell.

As I just said at DT, modern roulette wheels are very fair and balanced, but maybe 200 years ago that wasn't so much the case.

Quote:Ace2I always assumed it’s ordered like this for mainly historical reasons so that a biased wheel is harder to spot/exploit. If a certain quadrant of wheel is hitting more than it should, it’s easier to see that when the quadrant’s numbers are 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 instead of 27-10-25-29-12-8-19-31-18.

We were obviously posting at the same time.

If the numbers were simply in numerical rising order and i bet 1-12 and the ball is clacking away around numbers 20-26 im done. Chances of a last minute bouncing win are slim.

But with numbers the way they are ordered im screaming at the wheel to jump out and give me a last minute win

Quote:darkozI think the answers the same as why red and black are patterned intermittently. It keeps everyones skin in the game to the very last second

Good point.

Quote:WizardOne question I get from time to time is whether there is any order to the numbers on the roulette wheel. AZDuffman suggested some order, to what looks like chaos to me, via PM. I'd like to think I've improved up on the way he put it. That said, here is the simplest way I can think of to explain the arrangement of numbers on a double-zero wheel.

- Position the 00 at the 12:00 position and the 0 at the 6:00 position.
- The numbers at the top of the wheel are 13, 1, 00, 27, 10*, 25. This must simply be memorized.
- Note that all low odd numbers (from 1 to 17) are on the left side and the high odds (19 to 35) on the right side.
- Unless otherwise stated in rule 2, for the low odds, go 4 positions counterclockwise from the last one, and for the high odds, to 4 positions clockwise.
- All even numbers are directly across the wheel, 180 degrees, from the preceding odd number.

* The 10 does not need to be memorized, as it is directly across from the 9, as stated in rule 5. However, it must be noted that some even number is in that spot.

Any questions? Any suggestions on an even simpler way to put it? All due credit to AZD for his help with this.

The question for the poll is what do you think?

There is a pattern. On a 00 wheel, start at 1. 2 is directly across from it. Go back to 1 and 3 is three spaces from it. 4 directly across from that, rinse and repeat.

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Quote:IbeatyouracesThere is a pattern. On a 00 wheel, start at 1. 2 is directly across from it. Go back to 1 and 3 is three spaces from it. 4 directly across from that, rinse and repeat.

How do you explain getting from 12 to 13?