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But let's say you had 24 hours to double your money or you would be killed by the mob. What game and what strategy would you choose?
Let's say you have $5K, and you need $10K. For the sake of this discussion, let's say gambling is your only option.
Personally, I would start with large bets ($100 or more) at roulette since it has 36 to 1 payouts. If that didn't work I would move to backjack with the money I had left.
What would your plan be to double your money in 24 hours?
Martingale a very low edge game like Blackjack with an initial wager of 10% of my bankroll. It would be absolutely essential that no wager could result in a total profit of more than 100% of my bankroll, or I would be risking my life for zero benefit. So bets would be limited as I approached that possibility.Quote: freqeeI know this is my first post but I assure you I am not in this situation..lol.
But let's say you had 24 hours to double your money or you would be killed by the mob. What game and what strategy would you choose?
Let's say you have $5K, and you need $10K. For the sake of this discussion, let's say gambling is your only option.
Personally, I would start with large bets ($100 or more) at roulette since it has 36 to 1 payouts. If that didn't work I would move to backjack with the money I had left.
What would your plan be to double your money in 24 hours?
Odds of survival damned near 50% and resolved after very few wagers. Not technically as good as wagering the whole lot on a coin toss, but then coin toss wagers with no house edge are not so easily had.
At any come out roll:
With less than $6363.64: Bet 1/7 of your bankroll on the don't pass and LAY full odds.
With more than $6363.64: Bet 1/6 of the amount you need to get to $10,000 on the don't pass and lay full odds.
If your bankroll is ever less than $20, then bet everything on the Player in baccarat.
If your bankroll is ever between $20 and $35, then bet $20 on the Banker in baccarat.
If your bankroll is ever between $9970 and $10000, then bet 5.26% more than what you need to get to $10,000 on the Banker in baccarat.
Quote: WizardI would do a hit and run craps session. Let's say the max odds are 3-4-5x and minimum don't pass bet is $5.. That would mean you could lay 6x, no matter the point.
At any come out roll:
With less than $6363.64: Bet 1/7 of your bankroll on the don't pass and LAY full odds.
With more than $6363.64: Bet 1/6 of the amount you need to get to $10,000 on the don't pass and lay full odds.
If your bankroll is ever less than $20, then bet everything on the Player in baccarat.
If your bankroll is ever between $20 and $35, then bet $20 on the Banker in baccarat.
If your bankroll is ever between $9970 and $10000, then bet 5.26% more than what you need to get to $10,000 on the Banker in baccarat.
What's the probability of success?
Quote: freqeeI know this is my first post but I assure you I am not in this situation..lol.
But let's say you had 24 hours to double your money or you would be killed by the mob. What game and what strategy would you choose?
Let's say you have $5K, and you need $10K. For the sake of this discussion, let's say gambling is your only option.
Personally, I would start with large bets ($100 or more) at roulette since it has 36 to 1 payouts. If that didn't work I would move to backjack with the money I had left.
What would your plan be to double your money in 24 hours?
Interesting thread. Id probably go aggressive on roulette to start and bet either red/black along with corresponding columns. If i bet red, bet the column at 2/1 with more red, if you bet black, bet the 2/1 column with more black. If i end up losing 50% of my bankroll, id either martingale the banker on baccarat or go and backcount a blackjack table and enter in at +3 TC and martingale it all day until i either double my bankroll or lose it all.
Quote: RSWhat's the probability of success?
I'd put it around 49.5%.
Okay, but are the chances of this versus the chances of Pass Line and TAKING full odds?Quote: WizardI would do a hit and run craps session.
Bet 1/7 of your bankroll on the don't pass and LAY full odds.
I think you would have to go to a game you knew and felt comfortable with.If everybody is happy and there are chips flowing all over the table, I'd not feel right about betting the Don't.
If you were going to be killed by the Mob then you should just cheat, you really have nothing to lose if you get caught.Quote: freqeeI know this is my first post but I assure you I am not in this situation..lol.
But let's say you had 24 hours to double your money or you would be killed by the mob. What game and what strategy would you choose?
Let's say you have $5K, and you need $10K. For the sake of this discussion, let's say gambling is your only option.
Personally, I would start with large bets ($100 or more) at roulette since it has 36 to 1 payouts. If that didn't work I would move to backjack with the money I had left.
What would your plan be to double your money in 24 hours?
If you believed in hell and cheating would send you there. I would find a higher limit cash poker game. Play a couple really dumb hands that are shown, then rock up and shove it in the right situation.
Quote: FleaStiffOkay, but are the chances of this versus the chances of Pass Line and TAKING full odds?
I think you would have to go to a game you knew and felt comfortable with.If everybody is happy and there are chips flowing all over the table, I'd not feel right about betting the Don't.
They would be slightly better, due to the lower house edge on the don't pass compared to the pass. If I had a 50% of being killed the next day, the contact high at the table would not be my highest concern.
Even in life/death people still refuse to bet the Don't Pass =P...Quote: WizardThey would be slightly better, due to the lower house edge on the don't pass compared to the pass. If I had a 50% of being killed the next day, the contact high at the table would not be my highest concern.
I would either do what the Wiz stated, or roulette... To answer the question as the OP intended.
Past that, my REAL answer (if my life really did depend on it) is I would either cheat or find another way (with a higher success rate) of getting the other $5k I need. Hell, I'd probably ask Axel and settle for his deal with 10% juice. That way he could have action on my life.
You'd do all that then you wouldn't marty $100 on player baccarat or hands of blackjack for the final $100?Quote: michael99000I'd find a single zero roulette wheel, bet 2500 on black and 275 each on nine individual red numbers. Need to avoid the zero and have the first red spin be one of my 9 to put me at 9900. Anything black is a free spin. Then go to the mobster and tell him I'm 100 short and see if he's ok with that
Going to the mobster short is the real gamble here.. =P.
At only 10% you would be getting the friends and family deal.Quote: RomesEven in life/death people still refuse to bet the Don't Pass =P...
I would either do what the Wiz stated, or roulette... To answer the question as the OP intended.
Past that, my REAL answer (if my life really did depend on it) is I would either cheat or find another way (with a higher success rate) of getting the other $5k I need. Hell, I'd probably ask Axel and settle for his deal with 10% juice. That way he could have action on my life.
My decision would hinge on how important it is to me. If I have $5k and straight up need $10k and my life would be changed in a negative way forever, I would do baccarat-player. If I realized I had lost half my bankroll and need to get the rest back (as in, nobody is going to cut off my finger), I'd play craps.
I'm frequently on the Dark Side but usually do not like it if players are making a mint and toke boxes are over flowing.Quote: RomesEven in life/death people still refuse to bet the Don't Pass =P...
Quote: IbeatyouracesI'd bet it all at even money that no casino in Vegas uses rigged Chinese prison decks.
Youre right. Japanese cards are now in circulation.
Quote: AxelWolfAt only 10% you would be getting the friends and family deal.
I hope that is 10% a week like we used to charge back east.
I'd probably search for the best lines could find and make a sports bet of some kind, Or do poker like axel
Imagine getting into the 9900s in craps and losing it all back.
Quote: RigondeauxI don't think successfully cheating or learning how to do so in 24 hours are really on the table for most.
I'd probably search for the best lines could find and make a sports bet of some kind, Or do poker like axel
Imagine getting into the 9900s in craps and losing it all back.
Unless a dealer friend was conveniently in the same situation with the mob....
Quote: gamerfreakUnless a dealer friend was conveniently in the same situation with the mob....
Until you realize he works for the mob!
I'd probably go to one of those scam "get cash now!" loan-type companies.
Perhaps rob like fifty 711's.
Maybe learn magic so I can turn money into more money like those evil witches do on TV and YouTube.
I would take the $5,000 to the biggest poker cash game going in the casino. I'd sit and explain to the table that I needed the $5,000 badly and if they dump $5,000 to to me I would pay them back double eventually. I would offer collateral if needed.
>>>> in 24 hours are really on the table for most.
True.
>>>>>>I'd probably search for the best lines could find
>>>>>>>and make a sports bet of some kind, Or do poker like axel
One can't learn about sports betting or poker in 24 hours either.
>>>>>Imagine getting into the 9900s in craps and losing it all back.
That is how casinos make their money. That is why big winners are comped a room, the casinos know the next day a big winner will give it all back.
In the given scenario 9900 is close to life saving, but how many gamblers stop in time or try to pawn a watch to make up the difference. They are 'on a roll'.. and wind up losing. What if a play was on the Right Side and he suddenly noticed a mob hitman walk up and make a big Don't bet?
then you would end up dead!Quote: NathanI would Max Bet the hell out of slot machines and strive for a full screen of the top winning symbol or Grand Progressive(Some Progressives are over $12,000.)This is my LIFE on the line so I would need that full screen or the Grand Progressive.
Slots would be amongst the worst possible ways to survive. Having the possibility of making MORE than double your money would mean that you were taking a correspondingly worse wager than 50_50. Why take 30 or 40 percent chance of living when the other options are extremely near 50%?
RIP Nathan. $10000 short.Quote: NathanI would Max Bet the hell out of slot machines and strive for a full screen of the top winning symbol or Grand Progressive(Some Progressives are over $12,000.)This is my LIFE on the line so I would need that full screen or the Grand Progressive.
Quote: onenickelmiracleRIP Nathan. $10000 short.
His screen rubbing technique must be off.
Better than most people's "screen pounding" technique... I swear I don't know how some people haven't broken the damn screens.Quote: gamerfreakHis screen rubbing technique must be off.
There are ways to gain a short term advantage in poker over your opponents that are not sustainable over a long session or over a long grind.
a) when you have a short stack you have a decided mathematical advantage against large stacks
b) when you are not known to the other players and deliberately mislead them
c) there are some tactics you can use that are legal but generally considered to be unethical such that you can only get away with them once.
A better story would be the person gets to 10k and decides to go one more round...
find sportsbookQuote: freqeeI know this is my first post but I assure you I am not in this situation..lol.
But let's say you had 24 hours to double your money or you would be killed by the mob. What game and what strategy would you choose?
mlb
Cardinals fave to win
so
-1.5 run line
win by at least 2 runs
+140
win $7,000
now have $12,000
payoff sweet
Sally
tonite game, btw
Quote: gordonm888there are some tactics you can use that are legal but generally considered to be unethical such that you can only get away with them once.
Forget Poker... learn 3 Card Monte and assemble your team. Hit the streets and get to work!
Always remember what Canada Bill Jones said...
"It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money"
He also had a couple other good quotes...
"A Smith & Wesson beats four aces"
"No, son, you lose. 'Cause this is a Smith & Wesson I'm holdin' here."
"I know it's crooked, but it's the only game in town."
Interesting Note: The last time I seen a 3 Card Monte game was 15 years ago on the LV Strip Bus on my way to Downtown.
Go Figure.
Lol. Are you hiding now? Lol.Quote: NathanHere's the obvious answer. Change your appearance drastically and leave town on a local bus and then take bus to next County, and then take bus to get another County and hide out in a cheap motel 2 Counties away. Can't kill you if they don't know WHAT you look like anymore or WHERE you are anymore ;)
Upgrayedd, he gon get his money.
I saw it not too long ago on the strip somewhere near the bridge near Tropicana. I don't think you could learn that well enough in 24 hours.Quote: monet0412Forget Poker... learn 3 Card Monte and assemble your team. Hit the streets and get to work!
Always remember what Canada Bill Jones said...
"It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money"
He also had a couple other good quotes...
"A Smith & Wesson beats four aces"
"No, son, you lose. 'Cause this is a Smith & Wesson I'm holdin' here."
"I know it's crooked, but it's the only game in town."
Interesting Note: The last time I seen a 3 Card Monte game was 15 years ago on the LV Strip Bus on my way to Downtown.
Go Figure.
When I was a young kid there was a guy working this at the Seattle bus station. It was fascinating to me. I would bet my $1 and win. I didn't know it at the time, but the guy was obviously allowing me to win so he could he could get the adults to put up real money. The most I ever saw others put up with this guy was $20. Then again, he was just doing it on the floor of the bus station and he looked kinda homeless.
Quote: onenickelmiracleLol. Are you hiding now? Lol.
Upgrayedd, he gon get his money.
LOL, no, I am not hiding but I think that would be a good way to hide out from him. For example, I live in Miami. I can take a bus to Broward, and then go to West Palm Beach(2 Counties away from Miami) and hide out in WPM which is very far from Miami IMO. :)
Quote: freqeeI know this is my first post but I assure you I am not in this situation..lol.
But let's say you had 24 hours to double your money or you would be killed by the mob. What game and what strategy would you choose?
Let's say you have $5K, and you need $10K. For the sake of this discussion, let's say gambling is your only option.
Personally, I would start with large bets ($100 or more) at roulette since it has 36 to 1 payouts. If that didn't work I would move to backjack with the money I had left.
What would your plan be to double your money in 24 hours?
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But let's say you had 24 hours to double your money or you would be killed by the mob. What game and what strategy would you choose?
Let's say you have $5K, and you need $10K. For the sake of this discussion, let's say gambling is your only option.
What would your plan be to double your money in 24 hours?
maximum boldness strategy
The "maximum boldness" theorem is a basic law of gambling when you're fighting an edge. Simply stated, starting with a given stake in a particular game, you have the best chance to reach a specified earnings level by making the biggest allowable bets consistent with that goal the fewest possible number of times.
i would bet 5k on the lowest house edge i could find - don't pass at craps or player at baccarat (because betting the banker would payback only 95% and would require you to make another bet.)