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Wizard
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December 29th, 2015 at 7:07:06 AM permalink
I just wrote a new page on Power 8's, which is a baccarat side bet found in South Africa.

As always, I welcome questions, comments, and especially corrections.

The question for the poll is would you play Power 8'?
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December 29th, 2015 at 3:12:44 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I just wrote a new page on Power 8's, which is a baccarat side bet found in South Africa.

As always, I welcome questions, comments, and especially corrections.

The question for the poll is would you play Power 8'?



I don't see playing this. Way too volatile, with so much of the return depending on the Jackpots.

OTOH, I really like the WoO site re-design. It already feels easier to navigate, and the banner logo is really good.
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December 29th, 2015 at 4:07:59 PM permalink
Seems like a bet that Eliot will want to analyze.
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December 29th, 2015 at 4:19:01 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

Seems like a bet that Eliot will want to analyze.

Without information on the progressive part, I wouldn't have much to work with. I think you could sneeze and beat it, but I wouldn't be able to quantify that. This bet reminds me of "Lucky Nines."
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December 30th, 2015 at 5:45:37 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I just wrote a new page on Power 8's, which is a baccarat side bet found in South Africa.


Thanks Mike for the Introduction of Power 8's.
Sorry for not be able to give any information on the progressive part, as it is CONFIDENTIAL.

PS. If anyone is coming to ICE, London 2016.
I will be at TCS-JohnHuxley Booth (S6-250) showing a few Progressive games and at my PST Join-booth (S6-242) showing 5 New Table Games.
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December 30th, 2015 at 8:00:52 AM permalink
Quote: MrCasinoGames

Sorry for not be able to give any information on the progressive part, as it is CONFIDENTIAL.

Progressives usually fix the bet by the player. Otherwise they punish those who make larger wagers. The last thing you want to do is reduce the RTP to a player who bets more. So, what is the fixed bet on this wager? For example, the progressives on carnival games cost $1.

Interblock learned their lesson very quickly when they offered Lucky Nines. They ended up offering it from CSM's only. I still can't imagine how bets like this one are created, let alone marketed.
Last edited by: teliot on Dec 30, 2015
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December 30th, 2015 at 2:58:50 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

Progressives usually fix the bet by the player. Otherwise they punish those who make larger wagers. The last thing you want to do is reduce the RTP to a player who bets more. So, what is the fixed bet on this wager? For example, the progressives on carnival games cost $1.

Interblock learned their lesson very quickly when they offered Lucky Nines. They ended up offering it from CSM's only. I still can't imagine how bets like this one are created, let alone marketed.


Yes teliot, Power 8s is a Progressive-bet, it is a fix unit bet per player, and as you say (For example, the progressives on carnival games cost $1).
The return per player is very dependent on the number of other players making the side bet, due to jackpot sharing.

It is not a Side-bet like Interblock's Lucky Nines.

PS. We have 4 more Baccarat Progressive-Games, 2 of them will be coming out in 2016.
Also coming out in 2016 is my new Casino Hold'em® with a New Progressive-bet (Casino Hold'em® Plus).
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December 30th, 2015 at 4:18:24 PM permalink
I think what Stephen is trying to say is that at just $1, even if the bet is positive, no AP would waste his time with it. Much like the the 5-cent Full Pay Deuces Wild machines at some Vegas casinos. The hourly expected profit is about $1.
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December 30th, 2015 at 4:42:06 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I think what Stephen is trying to say is that at just $1, even if the bet is positive, no AP would waste his time with it.

True. But at $1 per hand, why would the casino waste its time? On a typical baccarat table, there is a lot more t-win available by speeding up the game.
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December 30th, 2015 at 4:55:51 PM permalink
Quote: teliot

True. But at $1 per hand, why would the casino waste its time? On a typical baccarat table, there is a lot more t-win available by speeding up the game.


Dear teliot,
It is just like any other progressive games out there eg. Poker-progressive, BJ-progressive (777 BJ-progressive) (4-Aces BJ-progressive)...
It is $1 per player (not $1 per hand/round) there are 9 Players at the table at a house edge of 20%+ (no 5% or lower), and the house can always set it at $2, $5 or higher per player.
Last edited by: MrCasinoGames on Dec 30, 2015
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