Super 4 Progressive Blackjack

If you play 100 hands per hour and play the 5 bucks every hand, how much of that $500 an hour should you expect to get back? You want to see the dealer stop getting blackjack every 21 hands? Play the side bet. :-)

Effective this morning there have been some changes to this side bet.

Royal Flush (Diamonds) 100% of meter. Envy - $3,000

Royal Flush (Other three) 10% of meter. Envy - $1,000

Three of a kind - $750 - same

Straight - $400 - was $500

Flush - $300 - was $400

Two Pair - $200 - was $300

All same color - $100 - same

Pair- $50 - was $75

Any hand - $25- same

Dealer ace up- -$10 new

My observation over several different days of the week and all shifts, and from listening to casino types, is that this bet has bombed badly. If it wasn't broke why would they be trying to fix it? It now looks a little more appealing. Is it or are they pulling a bait and switch? Is the added envy bonus enough to entice more play? Would anyone care to run the numbers?

NUUUM-bers, NUUUM-bers... we want NUUUM-bers!!! Nice planning that they don't have to refelt the tables. Haven't seen anything stating only one payout amount per win.

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NUUUM-bers, NUUUM-bers... we want NUUUM-bers!!! Nice planning that they don't have to refelt the tables. Haven't seen anything stating only one payout amount per win.

New felts will be installed forthwith. The table signs were easy to change and they want the felts to reflect the changes. There are temporary plastic plaques on the existing felts with the changes. The dealers are frustrated because they are near the shoe which gets hung up on them.

Does the envy do it for you?

Break Even JP: 813,698.54 minus $4615.38 for each other player.

Hand	Payout	Freq	Prob	Return
RF Diam 100%	813,698.54	7,776	0.0000016732	1.361490539613
RF 10%	81,369.85	23,328	0.0000050196	0.408447161884
Trips	750	2,331,648	0.0005017159	0.376286892108
Straight	400	1,959,552	0.0004216495	0.168659816463
Flush	300	3,229,056	0.0006948170	0.208445090628
2 Pair	200	2,408,832	0.0005183240	0.103664807826
Same Color	100	23,162,112	0.0049839422	0.498394219547
Pair	50	61,585,920	0.0132518427	0.662592136103
Dealer BJ	25	125,991,936	0.0271105038	0.677762595785
Dealer Ace Up	10	248,287,680	0.0534256740	0.534256740045
Lose	0	4,178,359,800	0.8990848380	0.000000000000
Totals		4,647,347,640		5.000000000000

That was fast! Thanks, miplet. I thought of you right away since you did the last one but I didn't want to put you on the spot. Thanks again!

What they have done here is more than double the hit rate, which I think is smart. The side bets out there that only have action on a BJ are very tough on the players with a 4.75% hit rate.......there was one at the Table Games Conference that had action on either a Player or Dealer BJ increasing the frequency to 9.5% range.

Super 4 now has just under a 10% hit rate, which is the minimum in my book. Any rate less than 10% feels like you are really "feeding the beast".......can work on a $1 bet, but not on $5 IMHO.

AGS has the Counts Kustom BJ Bonus system that activates on only a player BJ and then you hit the button and see what you have won. Actually, I just checked the website and you win even money on any Ace dealt in your hand......there you go, increasing that Hit Rate above 10%.

Super 4 may work in the revised format, but it is really difficult to bring players back once they have said.....'This game is a house game!". I do like the concept in Super 4.......feel it has a better chance at $1 min with corresponding lower starting payouts and this new Dealer Ace pay event.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! (Sorry for shouting.)
While trying to get EoR's, I noticed a mistake. Removing a single k,q, or j of diamonds should be the same, but its not in my spreadsheet. Hope I can find that evil error where ever it may be.

Thank you, miplet! Hope your bug hunt is a short one and the fix easy.

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... Does the envy do it for you?

No, not quite. I did struggle with the idea of putting a nickle on the red sensor as I was playing one of my last hands, but in the end I left it and another as a tip. I have a plan to cause some commotion the next time I play, a slight modification to the Super 4 Bonus wager. Won't spill the beans now, but I'll post about it here after the next time I play at the Sun.

Too bad they didn't try the "lets move the furniture around" strategy for Free Bet before they pulled it. Maybe management learned from that. They're certainly keeping the felting guys busy.

[offtopic]Lights out for Shine 360. Electronics have been pulled from the exhibit. Bet that was a career ending misstep for someone.[/offtopic]