Dragon Dice?
February 20th, 2013 at 6:14:59 AM
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I am trying to find a description/rules to a game that I believe is called Dragon Dice.
Details I remember are:
- Uses 8 dice
- 3 of a kind of a number wins
- 6 of a kind of a number wins more
That's about it. I'm not sure if players bet on individual numbers, hoping for trips+ of that number, or just looking for any 3 or more of a kind.
Anyone have any webpages or information on this, or a similar game?
Details I remember are:
- Uses 8 dice
- 3 of a kind of a number wins
- 6 of a kind of a number wins more
That's about it. I'm not sure if players bet on individual numbers, hoping for trips+ of that number, or just looking for any 3 or more of a kind.
Anyone have any webpages or information on this, or a similar game?
-Dween!
February 20th, 2013 at 6:38:05 AM
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February 20th, 2013 at 7:00:19 AM
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Nice find! That's the game.
When I did a search on "Grasping Eight", I also found a book - Board and Table Games from Many Civilizations, by Robert Charles Bell. It confirmed my suspicion that a 3, 4 or 5 of a kind is an 8x winner, not just an exact 3 of a kind.
I may do a self-analysis of the odds and HE, unless someone can whip it up quick as a mental agility exercise.
I also thought, with 8 dice, what are the odds one would roll at least one of each digit?
When I did a search on "Grasping Eight", I also found a book - Board and Table Games from Many Civilizations, by Robert Charles Bell. It confirmed my suspicion that a 3, 4 or 5 of a kind is an 8x winner, not just an exact 3 of a kind.
I may do a self-analysis of the odds and HE, unless someone can whip it up quick as a mental agility exercise.
I also thought, with 8 dice, what are the odds one would roll at least one of each digit?
-Dween!
February 20th, 2013 at 11:27:42 PM
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You can do this and show your results when completed.Quote: DweenI may do a self-analysis of the odds and HE, unless someone can whip it up quick as a mental agility exercise.
8d6,
8 dice... that makes for many possible outcomes (6^8) = 1,679,616
but just 1287 unique combinations
(11112222 and 22221111 counting as the same combination)
Here is a little help.
191,520 / 1,679,616 = 11.4026063%Quote: DweenI also thought, with 8 dice, what are the odds one would roll at least one of each digit?
I'm too cold and tired to show my work, (and lazy too)
so here is a site that shows how to do this, if you want to learn how, it is quite easy once you see how.
http://blog.plover.com/math/yahtzee.html
and at the bottom of the page it even has a calculator to do the work for you.
That way, you can check your math
Cool!
8 six-sided dice
pattern ways prob
AABBCDEF 151200 9.002 %
AABBCCDE 302400 18.004 %
AABBCCDD 37800 2.251 %
AAABCDEF 40320 2.401 %
AAABBCDE 403200 24.005 %
AAABBCCD 302400 18.004 %
AAABBBCD 100800 6.001 %
AAABBBCC 33600 2.000 %
AAAABCDE 50400 3.001 %
AAAABBCD 151200 9.002 %
AAAABBCC 25200 1.500 %
AAAABBBC 33600 2.000 %
AAAABBBB 1050 0.063 %
AAAAABCD 20160 1.200 %
AAAAABBC 20160 1.200 %
AAAAABBB 1680 0.100 %
AAAAAABC 3360 0.200 %
AAAAAABB 840 0.050 %
AAAAAAAB 240 0.014 %
AAAAAAAA 6 0.000 %
Good Luck!
the Wizard also has some examples for dice
https://wizardofodds.com/ask-the-wizard/probability/dice/
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
February 21st, 2013 at 10:54:47 AM
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Alright, so I looked over the figures (thanks, 7craps!), and I am trying to wrap my brain around it. Granted, this is an "ancient" game, most likely before mathematical analysis. I am finding this to be a positive expectation game for the player. Even if wins are paid for 1 instead of to 1, the player will win in the long run.
I wonder if this game were reworked with some more exotic bets, could it be a fun carnival game? Not necessarily for a casino, but for charity events or "Monte Carlo" nights.
I wonder if this game were reworked with some more exotic bets, could it be a fun carnival game? Not necessarily for a casino, but for charity events or "Monte Carlo" nights.
-Dween!
