Paigowdan
Paigowdan
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November 15th, 2012 at 3:33:42 AM permalink
I am tired of hearing of the fantasy of the riches to come - from counting. That's just old sh]t at this point.

I fight it at every turn - just to get grown gambling men off this fantasy breast, the tit that produces no milk anymore. Gotta call the losing plan as it really is. MIT kids killed it ten years ago, and you/we cannot realistically compare to them.

So guys, can we learn some tricks?:

1. The NEW AP areas - Best play on UTH? New approaches to UTH?
2. Best Pai Gow Poker strategy - and why?
3. New games designs - what do you guys have to show?
4. Interesting prop bets that you guys have made recently - and the bet's conditions?
5. Experiences in dealer school versus the first week on the job?
6. How to resurrect Horse racing - any ideas to create new bets for that - there are People at Santa Anita who WOULD be interested!
7. - Form a legal prop bet bookie service - Mike would be perfect for this. - Form an LLC with a business plan? - who wants to write one?
8. Do you create your own sports bets pool - how to do?

And the like...think of something new...

We need some new ideas - aside from "I'm gonna get RICH by counting - what a new idea! who's gonna know or back me off in the casino? It's FOOLPROOF, I tell you!"

You show something new.
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CrapsForever
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November 15th, 2012 at 4:13:52 AM permalink
No "Mid-Shoe" Entries in Craps akin to Higher Limit Rules in Blackjack.
Craps is the most "Jekyll and Hyde" casino game ever invented!
Paigowdan
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November 15th, 2012 at 4:22:34 AM permalink
Quote: CrapsForever

No "Mid-Shoe" Entries in Craps akin to Higher Limit Rules in Blackjack.


..... what difference ....?
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CrapsForever
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November 15th, 2012 at 4:45:08 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

..... what difference ....?



Just a lot of Craps players' preference.....
Craps is the most "Jekyll and Hyde" casino game ever invented!
FleaStiff
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November 15th, 2012 at 5:26:18 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan


I fight it at every turn - just to get grown gambling men off this fantasy breast, the tit that produces no milk anymore.


Speaking of tits, have you noticed how the only ones consistently making any money at a casino are the ones with the tits?
The men may show up thinking about their card counting skills but its the half naked broads who wind up with the money.
Even on the casino ship awhile ago where flats would make sense, I saw all these lovely young ladies in shoes costing $1,400.00 and up. And those gowns, skimpy as they are, cost $3,000.00 or so. If these rather young Ladies of the Evening are out and about bedecked in $4,500.00 in clothing just for an evening's gambling voyage, it doesn't matter what dream the Advantage Players have for the reality is that the money is all going to the women, not the APs.
Paigowdan
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November 15th, 2012 at 5:27:27 AM permalink
That is good, as NO game has the juice that craps really has...you have any new game ideas for craps?......present them here.........
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Paigowdan
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November 15th, 2012 at 5:28:27 AM permalink
Quote: Crapsforever

Just a lot of Craps players' preference.....




That is good, as NO game has the juice that craps really has...you have any new game ideas for craps?......present them here.........

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FleaStiff
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November 15th, 2012 at 8:42:10 AM permalink
The only "new" stuff about craps is that some places are providing chairs and some places are dampening the vocal enthusiasm particularly of certain ethnic groups or drunks. There seems to be some monkeying with the layout regarding hops and center bets but the real change seems to be in the group dynamics.

Some pit bosses shed tears when craps tables were removed to make way for Blackjack tables after Beat The Dealer was published and some pundits have said we need another world war to educate the younger generation about craps but in reality the problem seems to be that the gambling population is aging. Older men switch to slot machines, younger men have grown up with computers all their lives and automatically gravitate to slot machines rather than physical dice.
midwestgb
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November 15th, 2012 at 8:46:37 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

That is good, as NO game has the juice that craps really has...you have any new game ideas for craps?......present them here.........



Here is my idea, Dan, for which I am herewith declaring a common copyright... ;-)

Give the players at the table a 'Team bet' opportunity before each initial come-out roll. You throw down your team bet (always the table min. only.... unless the team votes by majority of participants to bet a higher amount) in a marked location at a spot similar to the Fire bet spot in front of each player. If the player then makes his point, the 'team' collects a one-for-one return and it all goes in the Team Pot. Craps rolled on the come-out does not remove the bet. When the shooter finally sevens out, all participants on the 'team' in this bet collect the pot, split equally. You have to ante for each and every point for the particular shooter you wish to bet upon. This bet would give folks the chance to ride a shooter they like the look of.
P90
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November 15th, 2012 at 8:57:32 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

So guys, can we learn some tricks?:
1. The NEW AP areas - Best play on UTH? New approaches to UTH?


For one. Hole-carding is one of the major approaches to UTH. The edge gained is small, but it's very reliable and sooner will Mars will send a manned (sic) mission to Earth than you get caught.

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2. Best Pai Gow Poker strategy - and why?


Don't touch the thing. No advantage, huge house edge, about 6% ignoring draws, low comps, too boring for a casual break.

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4. Interesting prop bets that you guys have made recently - and the bet's conditions?


Some time ago I've made a bet to show zero living expenses for a period of a month - that is to get everything comped while maintaining EV>=0 on all games I play. I'm free to pick beginning and end points after the fact, though, as long as 28 uninterrupted days pass, and there's time left, so advice would be welcome.

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6. How to resurrect Horse racing -


Hmm. Race resurrected horses? Nah, fantasy. Augmented horse races? Nah, still sci-fi. Tourney "horses"? Nah, boring.
I think it would be a good idea to try and push forward a betting-funded full contact motor racing series.
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