Mission146
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July 2nd, 2012 at 6:36:05 PM permalink
I have decided that I am going to try my hand at theoretical Greyhound racing using the following system:

There are eight dogs in every race at Wheeling Island Racetrack. I will bet $2.00 on each dog to win based upon the previous day's odds, until I reach a dog that is a break-even point. In the event that I do not have $2.00 on over half (five or more) dogs, then there will be no bet.

Wheeling Island Tuesday Afternoon Program for 7/3/2012 Bets:

Race 1

Oshkosh Trigger: 14-1
Delighful Dame: 7-1
Jim Brass: 14-1
TMC's Fine Design: 7-1
Flying Big Gun: 14-1

TOTAL: $10

Race 2

Tactician: 6:1
TP Backcheck: 8:1
CTW Future Tense: 8:1
Facebook Official: 17:1
Tiger: 6:1

Total: $10

Race 3

Bella Yardly: 9:1
Storming Scotty: 9:1
Kiowa Tara Tops: 11:1
Rico's Pollax: 8:1
Fire's Snow White: 6:1
Tolek: 5:1

Total: $12

Race 4

Walkabout Boot: 10:1
Kitz: 7:1
AMF Marionette: 5:1
CTW Windup Doll: 5:1
Seamless: 17:1

Total: $10

Race 5

No Bet

Race 6

No Bet

Race 7

DS Strollforgold: 9:1
Dangerous Macho: 5:1
WWK Win Day: 6:1
Toni Works: 5:1
Braska Wahoo: 13:1
JA's Swept Away: 6:1

Total $12

Race 8

Prometheus: 14:1
M's Red Antenna: 14:1
TK Emerald: 5:1
Flying Reward: 7:1
Jean Krupa: 5:1
Kiowa Down Right: 5:1

Total: $12

Race 9

No Bet

Race 10

Braska Komodo: 5:1
AMF Ex Pro: 5:1
DLS Villa: 17:1
Atascotita Zeal: 11:1
Kiowa Tara TLC: 11:1

Total $10

Race 11

With Approval: 15:1
WW Orange Krush: 15:1
Clever Sara: 5:1
Scimitar: 5:1
Skate Gonchar: 7:1

Race 12

Wonder N Awe: 10:1
CTW Iron Man: 10:1
Kiowa WW Rob: 5:1
Cleo N Holly: 6:1
Atascotita Sire: 13:1

Total: $10

Race 13

Kelsos Wild Rose: 8:1
Gable Miss: 16:1
Rocken Rally: 6:1
CTW Carpe Diem: 5:1
WW's Wild Pitch: 6:1
Annie Antebellum: 5:1

Race 14

No Bet

Race 15

No Bet

Race 16

No Bet

Race 17

MV Sippewissett: 5:1
Boc's Front Page: 12:1
E's Flyin Bonnie: 9:1
Our Lil Boy: 6:1
PC's Seneca Rock: 12:1

Total $10

Let's see how it goes!
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Ayecarumba
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July 3rd, 2012 at 12:07:34 PM permalink
I assume these are yesterday's closing odds, but when do you place your bets for today?
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July 3rd, 2012 at 12:11:18 PM permalink
I love greyhound racing. If only they were treated well, then I could not feel bad about the whole thing.
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July 3rd, 2012 at 1:07:40 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Race 3

Bella Yardly: 9:1
Storming Scotty: 9:1
Kiowa Tara Tops: 11:1
Rico's Pollax: 8:1
Fire's Snow White: 6:1
Tolek: 5:1

Total: $12


You have a 5-1 dog in a 6-dog bet - is this right, considering it's a break-even bet (assuming it pays 5-1)?

Also, how do you choose the dogs - do you always bet the longest shot in the race, or is there any sort of maximum odds you are willing to consider?
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July 3rd, 2012 at 7:53:59 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I assume these are yesterday's closing odds, but when do you place your bets for today?



I would place my bets first thing because I have no means of knowing the updated odds.
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July 3rd, 2012 at 7:56:37 PM permalink
FinsRule,

I hear the horses have it better.

ThatDonGuy,

Yes, that's the intended bet. I would get the $2.00 back on a win so break even overall. There is no maximum number of dogs to pick, but the minimum is that I must have at least 5/9 dogs to win giving me over a 50% chance just based on the number of dogs. If I am doing worse that breaking even on my most likely dog, or if I reach a point where a dog loses me money (and I don't have five dogs yet) then I wouldn't bet the dog, or make a bet on the race, in the latter case.
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July 3rd, 2012 at 8:18:59 PM permalink
Results:

Race 1:

Delightful Dame $15.00

The bet was $10, so:

+$7.00

Race 2:

Tiger $16.80

The bet was $10, so:

+$8.80 and +$15.80 total

Race 3:

Turbo Profit: Loss

-$12 and +$3.80 total

Race 4:

AMF Marionette $16.80

The bet was $10, so:

+$8.80 and + $12.60 total

Races 5-6:

No Bet

Race 7:

Wwk Win Day: $6.60

The bet was $12, so:

-$5.40 and +$7.20 total.

Race 8:

Jean Krupa $11.60

The bet was $12, so:

+$0.40 and + $7.60 total.

Race 9-No Bet

Race 10:

Loss -$10 and -$2.40 Total

Race 11:

Scimitar $15.60

The bet was $10, so:

+$7.60 and +$5.20 Total

Race 12:

Loss -$10 and -$4.80 Total

Race 13:

Loss -$12 and -$16.80 Total

Races 14-16-No Bet

Race 17:

Pc's Seneca Rock $9.20

The bet was $10, so:

+1.20 and -$15.60 total.

$118 Bet $15.60 Loss = 13.2% of bets lost

---We might tweak this system a bit. I'm not sure if I am going to have time to pick tomorrow's races, but I'm going to try to get it done.
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July 3rd, 2012 at 8:30:20 PM permalink
Are the results based on $1.00 to win for dogs or $2.00? If it's $1.00 then I made a killing!
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July 3rd, 2012 at 9:16:47 PM permalink
Picks for Wednesday July 4th, 2012:

Race 1:

No Bet

Race 2:

Diamond N Ruff: 6:1
Bella Yang: 5:1
Maverick Penny: 13:1
M's Sweet Cream 5:1
Crungie: 13:1
TP Wicky: 7:1

Race 3:

Kiowa Jill Gale: 5:1
Super C Idol: 8:1
GLS LuckyCharm: 17:1
Swing Doctor: 5:1
Deposition: 6:1

Race 4:

Winding 13:1
CTW Jacklyn: 5:1
Skate Semin: 7:1
Slatex Luxor: 6:1
Atacocita Ruth: 6:1
DLS Trenton: 5:1

Races 5-8: No Bet (Bad PDF)

Race 9:

CTW Cat Walk: 6:1
Driven Tempo 13:1
KB's Mr. Fulton: 9:1
First Dude: 6:1
TMC's ByeByeBaby: 9:1

(That's all I have time for today)
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I recall one gambler at the dog track in South Florida would send his young daughter to take note of which dogs defecated before a race, but his eight year old daughter simply marked the card with the dogs who, like her, were skinny females.
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July 4th, 2012 at 5:55:54 PM permalink
Race 2:

TP Wicky $19.80

$12 Bet so +$9.80

Race 3:

Kiowa Jill Gale $25.20

$10 Bet so +$17.20 and +$27.00 Total

Race 4:

Loss -$12 so +$15.00 Total

Race 9:

TMC's ByeByeBaby $15.40

Bet $10 so +$7.40 and +$22.40 Total
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July 4th, 2012 at 6:02:04 PM permalink
TWO DAY TOTAL

-$15.60 + $22.40 = +$6.80

$162.00 Bet and $6.80 Won...+4.198% profit.

There are no races at WI on Thurs., so it should be easy for me to prepare a full bet sheet for Friday.
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July 4th, 2012 at 8:45:54 PM permalink
Friday Afternoon:

Race 1

KB's First Kiss: 16:1
WW's Takin Over: 5:1
Omega Comet: 9:1
Kiowa Garland: 6:1
Tippi Hedren: 6:1

Race 2:

So Stylish: 9:1
Super C Carla: 5:1
Wilky's Way: 6:1
DS Scooters: 10:1
Stormin On Home: 13:1

Race 3:

WW's Extra Gum: 6:1
JD King Red: 7:1
CTW Rocket Fuel: 6:1
Backwood Janet: 15:1
Boc's Mocha Man: 7:1

Race 4:

Super C Seca: 12:1
Kelso's FullForce: 6:1
EZ Deep N Dark: 5:1
Dutch Diva: 6:1
Magic Sapphire: 9:1 (This Dog wins if it gets through the first turn cleanly!)
Awesome Feather: 7:1

Race 5-No Bet

Race 6-No Bet

Race 7-No Bet

Race 8-No Bet

Race 9-No Bet

Race 10:

Cruzin Rhythm: 9:1
CTW Mesmerizer: 14:1
Kiowa Mystic Job: 9:1
T's Fenderbender: 7:1
Kiowa Jenko John: 14:1

Race 11-No Bet (AA)

Race 12:

GLS Ronnie: 5:1
Aljo Rowdy Busch: 7:1
Elastic Trent: 17:1
Braska Paul: 5:1
Jim Florida: 5:1
SS All The Way: 8:1

Race 13:

BF Deli 8:1
Steve McGarrett: 12:1
Okie Shinook: 8:1
WWK Ripe Tomato: 8:1
TB's Paws Away: 6:1
Braska Cici: 12:1

Race 14:

Everly Brother: 5:1
Bella Ridgeway: 8:1
WW Kay Pit Bull: 7:1
Phil It Up: 6:1
Bob's Cassie: 6:1
Rocken Alot: 14:1

Race 15:

Braska Punt: 5:1
Oshkosh Erupt: 7:1
Flying Boros: 15:1
Majestic Mage: 7:1
Train Rails: 7:1

Race 16-No Bet

I might do the evening program, as well, not sure. I'll probably just stick to afternoons.
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July 4th, 2012 at 10:25:48 PM permalink
It's interesting that there is so much overlap between greyhound horse names and famous thoroughbred horse names.

Awesome Feather is an eclipse award winning throughbred, so they figured, why not name a greyhound after her? Interesting.
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Quote: FinsRule

It's interesting that there is so much overlap between greyhound horse names and famous thoroughbred horse names.

Awesome Feather is an eclipse award winning throughbred, so they figured, why not name a greyhound after her? Interesting.



I did not know that about Awesome Feather, but yeah, I would say, "Why not?" They are two completely different registries each one having nothing to do with the other so there is no confusion. I have a friend who adopted a retired greyhound whose racing name was, "Gable Flamingo," and interestingly, there are two Gable Flamingos, both hounds, which I didn't think you were supposed to do.
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July 6th, 2012 at 3:35:19 PM permalink
Race 1: -10

Race 2: -10 (-20)

Race 3: -10 (-30)

Race 4: EZ Deep N Dark 12.40 +2.40 (-$27.60)

Race 10: CTW Mesmerizer 19.60 +11.60 (-$16.00)

Race 12: SS All The Way 14.00 +4.00 (-$12.00)

Race 13: Braska Cici 10.00 -2.00 (-$14.00)

Race 14: Phil It Up 14.20 +4.20 (-$9.80)

Race 15 -10 (-$19.80)
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July 6th, 2012 at 3:36:39 PM permalink
Total: $260 Bet and $13.00 Lost = 5% Loss of All Bets

Will post Saturday picks later.
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July 8th, 2012 at 9:39:28 AM permalink
I forgot to do Saturday, and the board was really hopping last night (as was the hotel) so I didn't really have time for Sunday. My laptop really can't handle more than one thing at once, and I have to weedeat after my wife gets home...which is any minute...so I probably won't get to Monday, if they even do run on Mondays. I'll probably post up Tuesday's picks tomorrow, I'm still beating the Take, but it's early and Friday was UGLY!
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July 8th, 2012 at 9:39:29 AM permalink
I forgot to do Saturday, and the board was really hopping last night (as was the hotel) so I didn't really have time for Sunday. My laptop really can't handle more than one thing at once, and I have to weedeat after my wife gets home...which is any minute...so I probably won't get to Monday, if they even do run on Mondays. I'll probably post up Tuesday's picks tomorrow, I'm still beating the Take, but it's early and Friday was UGLY!
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