BODOG no longer operating?
December 14th, 2011 at 7:44:15 AM
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I rcvd an email this AM about the operator for BODOG no longer offering online gambling services. The new operator which has acquired the BODOG accounts is BOVADA. Anyone have any further details about this? I know the Wizard has been a long time endorser of the BODOG operation - in fact, it says so on the right hand side of this screen... ;-) Does the endorsement hold true for the new operator as well?
-Chris
-Chris
December 14th, 2011 at 8:13:24 AM
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I think I'm allowed to talk about this now. It was a closely guarded secret for a while. Bodog is splitting off its American customers to Bovada. Everything is in transition today. Account balances for US players will transfer over. Hopefully you'll be able to do everything you want later today.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 14th, 2011 at 8:13:42 AM
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It seems to work in Europe, but access is blocked for IP addresses from the United States.
December 14th, 2011 at 9:08:54 AM
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Quote: WizardI think I'm allowed to talk about this now. It was a closely guarded secret for a while. Bodog is splitting off its American customers to Bovada. Everything is in transition today. Account balances for US players will transfer over. Hopefully you'll be able to do everything you want later today.
Okay, great. Do you still stand behind your endorsement of this service? I've come to trust your judgement a great deal.
December 14th, 2011 at 9:51:54 AM
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Quote: ChrisInCTOkay, great. Do you still stand behind your endorsement of this service? I've come to trust your judgement a great deal.
Thanks for your trust. Yes, I stand behind both of them.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 14th, 2011 at 9:58:15 AM
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Quote: sam76New company? New rules? Or just a new name? Does the BOVADA.LV website extension really mean that they are based in the Eastern European nation of Latvia or do they just want everyone to think that it stands for Las Vegas?
Looks like it's the latter:
[Domain]
Domain: bovada.lv
Status: active
Changed: 2008-09-23T13:41:24+03:00
[Holder]
Type: Legal person
Name: Your Whois Privacy Ltd.
Email: hostmaster@safenames.net
Fax: +44.1908325192
Phone: +81.335435523, +44.1908200022
Address: PO Box 5085, Milton Keynes, MK6 3ZE, United Kingdom
RegNr: 06611092
[Tech]
Type: Natural person
Email: tec@safenames.net
Fax: +44 1908 325192
Phone: +44 1908 200022
[Registrar]
Type: Legal person
Name: Safenames Ltd
Email: billing@safenames.net, sam@safenames.net
Fax: +44 1908 325192
Phone: +44.1908200022
Address: Safenames House, Sunrise Parkway, Linford Wood, Milton Keynes, MK14 6LS, United Kingdom
RegNr: 3802179
[Nservers]
Nserver: dns1.imagestore.lv
Nserver: dns2.imagestore.lv
Nserver: geodns1.imagestore.lv
[Whois]
Updated: 2011-12-14T12:12:26.538361+00:00
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December 14th, 2011 at 11:11:05 AM
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Quote: WizardI think I'm allowed to talk about this now. It was a closely guarded secret for a while. Bodog is splitting off its American customers to Bovada.
Very unfortunate choice of name. In Spanish the word "Bobada" (close enough) means something like "idiocy."
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
December 14th, 2011 at 11:26:22 AM
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Quote: NareedVery unfortunate choice of name.
I was just thinking along similar lines. Bovada? Really? Thats the best
they could come up with? It sounds like a product name, like the
new Chevy Bovada. I would have used a tough sounding Americanized
name like Shanks, or Killa. Killa Casino has a ring to it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 14th, 2011 at 11:59:32 AM
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The organization is still the same. They already handled the US customers out of Montreal and everybody else somewhere in the UK. As I understand it, this is pretty much just a name change.
However, this was all above my pay grade, I just knew they were going to split off the US customers in December, I didn't even know the name of the new casino until today. So take what I say with a grain of salt.
However, this was all above my pay grade, I just knew they were going to split off the US customers in December, I didn't even know the name of the new casino until today. So take what I say with a grain of salt.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 14th, 2011 at 12:13:58 PM
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I too think it's a weird name. Then again, I thought Bodog, eBay and Google were weird names too.
Does "vada" mean dog in some other language?
Personally, I think Bovada is a brand of wristwatch, or vodka.
Does "vada" mean dog in some other language?
Personally, I think Bovada is a brand of wristwatch, or vodka.
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December 14th, 2011 at 12:30:22 PM
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About 2-3 months ago they cut off deposits from their American customers. Will the new Bovada talk deposits from American customers like the old Bodog did?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:10:37 PM
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Maybe it's a play on the name "Nevada"...maybe they expect to get licensed there?
December 14th, 2011 at 1:37:58 PM
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Oh. Duh. That makes sense.Quote: slytherMaybe it's a play on the name "Nevada"...
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Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
December 14th, 2011 at 1:59:28 PM
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Poking around in free play mode, I see they offer a single-deck blackjack game with the following rules:
- Single deck (obviously)
- Blackjack pays 3 to 2
- Dealer peeks for blackjack
- Dealer hits soft 17
- Double on any 2 cards
- Split once to make 2 hands
- Double after split allowed
- 1 card to split aces
- $25 minimum bet
House edge with optimal strategy is only 0.0375%. That's closer to a mathematically fair game than Full-Pay Pick 'em Poker.
And their single-hand Joker Poker returns 100.0459%.
- Single deck (obviously)
- Blackjack pays 3 to 2
- Dealer peeks for blackjack
- Dealer hits soft 17
- Double on any 2 cards
- Split once to make 2 hands
- Double after split allowed
- 1 card to split aces
- $25 minimum bet
House edge with optimal strategy is only 0.0375%. That's closer to a mathematically fair game than Full-Pay Pick 'em Poker.
And their single-hand Joker Poker returns 100.0459%.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:59:44 PM
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Hi All - Bovada Customer Service here!
To start, we just wanted to reassure you that if you have any account specific questions or concerns, the Bovada.LV Customer Service team is available to help you out at 1-888-263-0000 or service@bovada.lv.
A couple quick responses to some of the comments in this thread:
The big change is really just the move of US players and a few smaller countries to a new brand name. Previously Morris Mohawk Gaming Group licensed the use of the Bodog Brand to operate and instead, but we will now operate under the Bovada Brand name. We are offering the same great service, products, deposit methods and overall gaming experience that were previously offered by Bodog.eu. All account information and funds have been transferred to Bovada and are 100% safe.
As for Bovada.LV as a name choice, we want to build a unique, strong brand. Bovada is a name we can make into whatever we want. As well, the fact it starts with “B-O” should help you find us in your browser for the first few weeks.
To start, we just wanted to reassure you that if you have any account specific questions or concerns, the Bovada.LV Customer Service team is available to help you out at 1-888-263-0000 or service@bovada.lv.
A couple quick responses to some of the comments in this thread:
The big change is really just the move of US players and a few smaller countries to a new brand name. Previously Morris Mohawk Gaming Group licensed the use of the Bodog Brand to operate and instead, but we will now operate under the Bovada Brand name. We are offering the same great service, products, deposit methods and overall gaming experience that were previously offered by Bodog.eu. All account information and funds have been transferred to Bovada and are 100% safe.
As for Bovada.LV as a name choice, we want to build a unique, strong brand. Bovada is a name we can make into whatever we want. As well, the fact it starts with “B-O” should help you find us in your browser for the first few weeks.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:55:37 PM
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Bovada is too close to bovine for me.
Gambling is a metaphor for life. Hang around long enough and it's all gone.
December 14th, 2011 at 4:04:49 PM
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My only complaint about bocow was that I bought in for $100 hit a $1,400 jackpot but you can't cash out till you hit $3,000 in your account and with a casino's edge you'll never get out alive! Reflecting on it I should have just deposited enough to cover the minimum and then cashed out.
Gambling is a metaphor for life. Hang around long enough and it's all gone.
December 14th, 2011 at 4:09:30 PM
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Ya, like that "No-house edge" stuff at those places which offer it means nothing when you have to pay an overall percentage inversely-based on amount wagered. Better off w/o the "deal"!
Why bet at all, if you can be sure?
Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts?
(P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
December 14th, 2011 at 4:19:55 PM
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I for one am excited by this. Let's hope that this new site is just as good as Bodog.
December 15th, 2011 at 7:43:21 AM
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Well, now that we see the new banners, we get confirmation that "Bovada" is a combination of Bodog and Nevada.
But it seems we're not in Kansas Nevada anymore.
Although that's clearly the Las Vegas skyline, where do you see so much grass in the desert?
And I suppose the Wiz is gonna be able to add this cool license plate to his collection soon...
Mike - Did you apply for a "Bovada" plate yet?
But it seems we're not in Kansas Nevada anymore.
Although that's clearly the Las Vegas skyline, where do you see so much grass in the desert?
And I suppose the Wiz is gonna be able to add this cool license plate to his collection soon...
Mike - Did you apply for a "Bovada" plate yet?
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http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
December 15th, 2011 at 8:40:51 AM
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Bovada sounds like an expensive watch brand made especially for cows.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
December 15th, 2011 at 11:36:54 AM
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Got it! I knew I'd heard the term Bovada before. When I was a real estate
person in Calif, we talked about Bovada ceilings in houses. Its a Mexican
domed ceiling made of tile or brick. Very common in kitchens and foyer's.
Its a style of architecture. Very common in Texas and Az.
Bovada Ceiling #1
Bovada Ceiling #2
person in Calif, we talked about Bovada ceilings in houses. Its a Mexican
domed ceiling made of tile or brick. Very common in kitchens and foyer's.
Its a style of architecture. Very common in Texas and Az.
Bovada Ceiling #1
Bovada Ceiling #2
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 15th, 2011 at 12:03:54 PM
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Note:
Evenbob's two links are to photos of two different examples of Bovada Ceilings.
Kinda interesting.
Evenbob's two links are to photos of two different examples of Bovada Ceilings.
Kinda interesting.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
December 15th, 2011 at 1:03:33 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearEvenbob's two links are to photos of two different examples of Bovada Ceilings.
The Wiz has a modern house in Vegas, wouldn't it be ironic
if he has a Bovada ceiling in it someplace?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 15th, 2011 at 1:19:02 PM
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I'm not sure if the ceiling of the entrance counts or not. It is high and round, but flat on top.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
December 15th, 2011 at 3:04:37 PM
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In Spanish architecure, a boveda is an arch. Boveda ceilings
are arched ceilings. It looks like bavada is the english way of
saying boveda.
Bovada Ceilings
are arched ceilings. It looks like bavada is the english way of
saying boveda.
Bovada Ceilings
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 15th, 2011 at 3:08:52 PM
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Quote: EvenBobGot it! I knew I'd heard the term Bovada before. When I was a real estate
person in Calif, we talked about Bovada ceilings in houses. Its a Mexican
domed ceiling made of tile or brick. Very common in kitchens and foyer's.
Its a style of architecture. Very common in Texas and Az.
Actually the ceiling style is bóveda possibly related to volvere (Latin) (“to turn”). It is probably most easily translated as Vault, an English word that is ultimately derived from the same Latin word "volvere".
TIPOS DE BÓVEDAS:
En el caso de la bóveda de cañón, ya sea de medio punto o apuntada, ésta puede llevar marcada los arcos formeros, a los que se denomina "arcos fajones".
In the case of a barrel vaul, either pointed or semicircular, this it may be marked with the arco-formero, which is called "transverse ribs".
arco-formero, or literally "wall arch" is a curved architectural element (arc), which runs parallel to the longitudinal axis.
December 15th, 2011 at 3:31:48 PM
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Quote: pacomartinActually the ceiling style is bóveda.
Yes, look above, I beat you to it by 4min.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 15th, 2011 at 5:29:31 PM
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Quote: MEBack on topic, this might mean I make Bodog my new poker home now the field is smaller for WSOP seats etc, do you know if they have any plans for a major marketing drive? I would honestly say they are not even in the top 10 of sites people would name in terms of a casino/pokerroom/sportsbook etc. I used them for poker games back when I owned the poker league, and every sign up was a new one, nobody ever said they already had an account, which worked out good for me, but went to show their image here is a small one.
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10042-woes-black-sheep-game-ii/#post151727
December 15th, 2011 at 7:16:07 PM
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Quote: EvenBobYes, look above, I beat you to it by 4min.
I put in all the stuff about etymology and the Spanish translation. It takes a little while.
December 15th, 2011 at 7:20:23 PM
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I understand. You feel badly that I beat you by 4min.
Thats OK.
Thats OK.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 18th, 2011 at 7:27:56 AM
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So to get this straight, after December 31st, American customers can STILL play on Bovada, it's just the Bodog brand that is pulling out of US??
My first impression was the Bodog brand changed over to the Bovada brand, probably for legal reasons, and was folding up the US tent altogether..
My first impression was the Bodog brand changed over to the Bovada brand, probably for legal reasons, and was folding up the US tent altogether..
December 18th, 2011 at 8:45:23 AM
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To fold would be an admission of guilt. Or at least an attempt to kill any investigation before questions start getting asked.Quote: hitthefloorMy first impression was the Bodog brand changed over to the Bovada brand, probably for legal reasons, and was folding up the US tent altogether..
To do what they are doing is kinda like making a statement that they have no intention of folding, or being shut down.
My first impression was that they are doing all the right things to work as legally as US law allows, but have made this move to isolate the US portion of their business, just in case the D.O.J. decides to shut them down anyway, even temporarily.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
December 18th, 2011 at 8:55:57 AM
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I agree it's a good move by Bodog to split its assets to a division with no risk and a division with a great deal of risk. It makes perfect sense, actually. The DOJ shouldn't be able to shut down Bodog anymore, meaning that all of its non-US players can keep going. However, I don't think the assets in Bodog are protected just because it split. That is, the DoJ could go after the parent company's assets (but not shut down the bodog website).
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