gamerfreak
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February 19th, 2017 at 2:33:36 AM permalink
https://youtube.com/watch?v=l3-OssVlvgc

Not sure why they would even do this unless they knew the order of the cards as well.
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February 19th, 2017 at 3:14:15 AM permalink
Thank you.
I'm sure that segment will go viral.
And I'm shocked that it was so openly performed.
Sure, most people think: Live Dealer means I don't have to watch his hands but the dealer is not just looking into a camera he is ALSO lookig at a monitor that shows him the card sequence he is about to deal. He then knows when to misdeal and that is why it is such an uncomfortably long r-e-a-c-h for him, most viewers won't keep turning their heads to look at the shoe.
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February 19th, 2017 at 6:14:23 AM permalink
I posted that in the "This guy is a hoot" thread.

All that aside, what professional splits 2's against a 10 with a $115 bet in an online NHC game?!?!?!?!
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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February 19th, 2017 at 6:43:22 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I posted that in the "This guy is a hoot" thread.

All that aside, what professional splits 2's against a 10 with a $115 bet in an online NHC game?!?!?!?!

Well. He is a ploppy for sure.

I actually don't think the cheat was deliberate.

I know it looks VERY deliberate, but I've watched that dealer and a few others at BetOnline for a while, and the number of times the shoe has delivered cards badly or two at a time is indicative of shoddy design.

If the casino wanted to pull that stunt, they'd do it on the high roll tables with $1000 + sized bets, not some $60 hand. There are also easier and bigger ways they could cheat discretely

That said, the cards could have a textured back such that his feeling it could read it, and I've seen shoes with built in prisms and cameras.

But it makes no sense.

It would make more sense for that Mike M to fabricate or fake the vid so as to get a viral ad for his site. That is not hard to do, though he's possibly not talented enough to conceive of it or to do so.
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February 19th, 2017 at 6:47:25 AM permalink
If you watch the full video, and I mean look everywhere on the screen, he's credited with a win, not a loss. Watch his balance go from $100 to $330. I don't think he noticed that. So in reality, he did win the hand in question.

Apparently, he's had a satisfactory and corrective response from the sites customer service.
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February 19th, 2017 at 7:03:01 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

If you watch the full video, and I mean look everywhere on the screen, he's credited with a win, not a loss. Watch his balance go from $100 to $330. I don't think he noticed that. So in reality, he did win the hand in question.

Apparently, he's had a satisfactory and corrective response from the sites customer service.


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Subject: BlackJack Cheating

Good day,

Thank you for contacting Customer Support.

Trust this email finds you well.

We would like to profusely apologize on behalf of all parties involved as this was a simple human error. The player would have clearly won the hand in question if the cards were dealt without error.

We have escalated this matter to have the video reviewed as we are unable to do that over here at the CS department and with the review we have seen that there was indeed an error. The player who suffered this loss has been fully reimbursed and further procedures have been put in place to ensure this will not happen again.

We are sincerely sorry that this had happened and apologize for the inconvenience but rest assured the player affected has been reimbursed accordingly and this will not happen again in future.

Thank you for your understanding.

Good luck and enjoy!

If you have any other questions or require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

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gamerfreak
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February 19th, 2017 at 8:18:40 AM permalink
I sort of find it hard to believe that a dealer could do this in error. Pushing one card up and taking the one below is a very deliberate motion.
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February 19th, 2017 at 8:50:07 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

I sort of find it hard to believe that a dealer could do this in error. Pushing one card up and taking the one below is a very deliberate motion.

I agree but it is indeed obvious that the dealer is not permitted to look at the shoe but must look directly into the camera so a claim of 'mistake' might not be so absurd.
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February 19th, 2017 at 9:49:09 AM permalink
There is no way in hell THIS GUY caught this happening before, during or after the fact. So my question is, how did he know?????.

THIS IS VERY BAD FOR BET ONLINE.

I'm wondering if he could have made an agreement with the casino for a nice sum of money not to release the video?

I never really thought live online gambling was any safer than RNG's.

How does the dealer know what the order of the cards are?

Will they be added to blacklists for this?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 19th, 2017 at 9:52:14 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I agree but it is indeed obvious that the dealer is not permitted to look at the shoe but must look directly into the camera so a claim of 'mistake' might not be so absurd.

Whats behind that camera? Probably someone telling him when to cheat.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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