Does the VP Double Up feature count towards bonus Wagering Requirements?

First time poster here. I have been playing on a WoV approved site, and trying to grind through the necessary playthrough to collect a bonus. It's Realtime Gaming software. I asked the online help, and they were a little vague, but it seems that the double up will not count towards the requirement. Of course, that makes sense since it would be easy to meet the requirement then.

I'm just trying to confirm with those who have more experience with online gambling. Also, if there are any sites that might allow the double up to count towards the bonus, I would be interested to know!

Thank you!

If there are any, I do not know of them. It is adjudicated as part of the original bet of any I have played. Good idea, though! Get some of the WR at a 0% HE!

Quote: Chuckleberry

I'm just trying to confirm with those who have more experience with online gambling. Also, if there are any sites that might allow the double up to count towards the bonus, I would be interested to know!

There ain't. Just get that thought out of your head.

And if you're going to play bonuses online, I recommend shooting for a significant win or going tap city. Don't "grind it out" and then cash out a small win that technically meets the wagering requirements. They don't like that. Don't try to get cute or outsmart them, give them a good gamble if it's a legit site and a good offer.

And speaking of Real Time Gaming software, it is excellent software in my opinion. However, there are good operators using that software, and not-so-good operators. In fact, it's essentially a haven for bad operators. The software company obviously doesn't have a lot of control over its clients. Whether that is by design or not I do not know. It's too bad, because there are some clients who are VERY reputable. Just do your homework.

Quote: bobbartop

... if you're going to play bonuses online, I recommend shooting for a significant win or going tap city. Don't "grind it out" and then cash out a small win that technically meets the wagering requirements. They don't like that. Don't try to get cute or outsmart them, give them a good gamble if it's a legit site and a good offer.

Thanks for the insight! Any advice is always welcomed. I've been using the "take a big shot or bust out" approach, but now need to play through the rest of the WR. I've had a good experience so far, but I suppose that might change if (and when) I attempt to cash out.

I've definitely been reading as much as possible to learn more about each individual operator and group.

Quote: Chuckleberry

Thanks for the insight! Any advice is always welcomed. I've been using the "take a big shot or bust out" approach, but now need to play through the rest of the WR. I've had a good experience so far, but I suppose that might change if (and when) I attempt to cash out.

I've definitely been reading as much as possible to learn more about each individual operator and group.

As you said in your original post it's a WOV approved site, I don't think you should have any trouble. The Wizard's reputation ain't chopped liver, so you should have nothing to worry about. Good luck.

By the way, you missed the best years of online gambling by about 15 years. Sounds like me, I'm always on the late train.

Quote: bobbartop

There ain't. Just get that thought out of your head.

And if you're going to play bonuses online, I recommend shooting for a significant win or going tap city. Don't "grind it out" and then cash out a small win that technically meets the wagering requirements.

Most importantly, read the Terms & Conditions. Many sites now have limits on the Max Bet allowed using Bonus funds. Even though the sites themselves do not necessarily prevent the bet from being made, making a bet in excess of that amount often violates the terms and conditions.

I love the, "Huge Shot," method as much as the next guy. I preach it. But, you must first make sure you are allowed to do that.

If one violates the posted T&C's, then one has no leg to stand on if the casino refuses to pay: The terms were violated.

Quote: Mission146

Most importantly, read the Terms & Conditions. Many sites now have limits on the Max Bet allowed using Bonus funds. Even though the sites themselves do not necessarily prevent the bet from being made, making a bet in excess of that amount often violates the terms and conditions.

I love the, "Huge Shot," method as much as the next guy. I preach it. But, you must first make sure you are allowed to do that.

If one violates the posted T&C's, then one has no leg to stand on if the casino refuses to pay: The terms were violated.

That's VERY interesting, and of course it's news to me because I basically quit in 2006 when they did their "port security" thing in congress. And it is so true, you REALLY need to be familiar with Terms and Conditions, or you're screwed. lol

When I first started, the casinos were GIVING money away. You could play blackjack, and the wagering requirements were VERY small. It was essentially free money, as long as it was a place that paid. Then slowly they started getting smarter. Some of them increased their wagering requirements, some of them excluded blackjack, some of them changed to "sticky bonuses", then "phantom bonuses", no video poker, higher wagering requirements, and on and on it evolved. But in the beginning there were incredible opportunities. And you didn't even have to get dressed.

Thanks for the info, by the way, Mission146.

Quote: bobbartop

That's VERY interesting, and of course it's news to me because I basically quit in 2006 when they did their "port security" thing in congress. And it is so true, you REALLY need to be familiar with Terms and Conditions, or you're screwed. lol

When I first started, the casinos were GIVING money away. You could play blackjack, and the wagering requirements were VERY small. It was essentially free money, as long as it was a place that paid. Then slowly they started getting smarter. Some of them increased their wagering requirements, some of them excluded blackjack, some of them changed to "sticky bonuses", then "phantom bonuses", no video poker, higher wagering requirements, and on and on it evolved. But in the beginning there were incredible opportunities. And you didn't even have to get dressed.

Thanks for the info, by the way, Mission146.

You're welcome, and I have written about many in my Articles here and Editorials on LatestCasinoBonuses.com!

I agree with you 2000% (because that used to be the Ev, occasionally) that the Promotions were much better several years ago, they might as well have just cut you a check and ignored the need to deposit. Things have gotten tougher since then, and continue to do so, but there are still playable promotions here and there.

Quote: Mission146

You're welcome, and I have written about many in my Articles here and Editorials on LatestCasinoBonuses.com!

I'll start checking them out. I'm still kinda new around here. Thanks.

You're absolutely welcome, although, all Articles were written based on the Terms & Conditions at that time. Some of them may have changed, so please make sure that you read a casino's site and are clear about the Bonus as well as T&C's before making any deposits.

Quote: Chuckleberry

First time poster here. I have been playing on a WoV approved site, and trying to grind through the necessary playthrough to collect a bonus. It's Realtime Gaming software. I asked the online help, and they were a little vague, but it seems that the double up will not count towards the requirement. Of course, that makes sense since it would be easy to meet the requirement then.

I'm just trying to confirm with those who have more experience with online gambling. Also, if there are any sites that might allow the double up to count towards the bonus, I would be interested to know!

Thank you!

Years ago you actually could use this double up method for WR's at places before they caught on(It was the first thing I usually tested)

I'm actually confident that the double up is... I'll just say.... "random" at many reputable sites. I'm way ahead of EV using the DBL up feature, it would seem i'm running good. I tracked it over many hands and was convinced it was something I felt comfortable with. Plus I have a bonus and WR theory backed up with a significant pattern, but that's a moot point.

I'm confident the let it ride feature wasn't at Mission to games.

FYI some places had/have slot double up's as well, so even after they disabled VP double up counting towards WR's they forgot to do it on the slots. Also no one has ever mentioned using DBL UP on slots or VP for the go big or go home strategy. It's especially good on slots because you're haven't to put less money in @ -EV. Obviously you're not getting WR credit however if you're doing it right you shouldn't be spinning much anyway.

On night I was playing VP and doubling up often and big as part of my bonus strategy(not the WR's). I hit 4 aces or something like that for 1600. I was dozing off and kinda on autopilot (yes apparently I can play VP in my sleep) I didn't even realize I hit something, somehow I unknowingly doubled it, when I woke up I had $3200.

I have some other nice big double up wins that I took pictures of.

Quote: AxelWolf

...FYI some places had/have slot double up's as well, so even after they disabled VP double up counting towards WR's they forgot to do it on the slots. Also no one has ever mentioned using DBL UP on slots or VP for the go big or go home strategy. It's especially good on slots because you're haven't to put less money in @ -EV. Obviously you're not getting WR credit however if you're doing it right you shouldn't be spinning much anyway.

On night I was playing VP and doubling up often and big as part of my bonus strategy(not the WR's). I hit 4 aces or something like that for 1600. I was dozing off and kinda on autopilot (yes apparently I can play VP in my sleep) I didn't even realize I hit something, somehow I unknowingly doubled it, when I woke up I had $3200.

I have some other nice big double up wins that I took pictures of.

Thanks Axel, great advice! I will definitely add that method to my toolbox.