Quote: rainmanQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: rainmanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6DR_bR_qIU
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Watched it. Weird, and especially so because the victims in this seemed like their own worst enemies, while the attackers were also unfathomably stupid, and the whole lot of them are lucky to be alive. Even the dogs seemed to have no idea what to do. But I guess Colion Noir was unwilling to give them the dressing down that they deserved.
Here's the follow-up: it was a gang of teenagers in Houston who apparently saw Ann-Margret's granddaughter there showing off a Bitcoin wallet to her social media fans and they went there thinking stealing the device would get them the coins. In reality stealing a Bitcoin hardware wallet or a full node or anything else won't get you anything unless you have the password to unlock the wallet and these kids didn't know that. Again, that's why these robberies involve torture. They got caught: https://www.fox26houston.com/news/houston-crime-four-teens-charged-home-invasion-online-streamer
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I'm confused, Ann Margret's grand daughter? The victim goes by the name Amouranth and is a big time
multi platform streamer.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/trending/us/who-is-amouranth-viral-streamer-returns-to-twitch-after-profiting-38-million-off-kick-101750420825870.html
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I see the resemblance. Depends a lot on which picture though.
Like Pink and Marie Fredriksson of Roxette. Pink doesn't have the same sound but for sure she's got the look.


Quote: billryanInfluencers boasting about their bitcoins have about as much street sense as people who brag about carrying a concealed weapon. I find both mildly entertaining.
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They might be looking to generate crypto endorsements.
I think they have a connection with a crypto gambling site, so it would make sense to mention crypto.
Supposedly, she makes upwards of 20 million a month. Screenshots of her 20 million in Crypto was a calculated risk for views, I'm sure.
Looks like the risk paid off big time because I had never even heard of this person till now, and I'm sure the same goes for many others. They seem to have done a bunch of interviews regarding this incident.
Quote: billryanInfluencers boasting about their bitcoins have about as much street sense as people who brag about carrying a concealed weapon. I find both mildly entertaining.
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Yeah...even though people have been sent to jail, any one who knows anything about Amouranth or streamers in general is still a little suspicious the whole thing wasn't staged. This is a horrible example to use for gun advocacy for so many reasons even if it wasn't.
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Really?????? After watching that, you thought it was staged/scripted?Quote: billryanI thought it looked staged, or at least orchestrated.
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I'm not sure how you stage 2 dogs' reactions.
Someone was shot, and police found a blood stream leading to their car.
4 people have been arrested and charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon and kidnapping.
The police tracked them down because of a stolen MacBook and a bloodstained to their vehicle.
I assumed conspiracy theorists were the only ones thinking/calling it staged.
I suggest watching and investigating it again, and then asking yourself if you still think it was staged/scripted.
Quote: AxelWolfReally?????? After watching that, you thought it was staged/scripted?Quote: billryanI thought it looked staged, or at least orchestrated.
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I'm not sure how you stage 2 dogs' reactions.
Someone was shot, and police found a blood stream leading to their car.
4 people have been arrested and charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon and kidnapping.
The police tracked them down because of a stolen MacBook and a bloodstained to their vehicle.
I assumed conspiracy theorists were the only ones thinking/calling it staged.
I suggest watching and investigating it again, and then asking yourself if you still think it was staged/scripted.
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To be fair, I was open to the idea of it being fake until I read that the police arrested the criminals. Police are really sensitive about being jerked around and used in pranks, and if they thought that was what was going on it would have been the couple in the home who got arrested.
You never see the invaders hit the girl, you hear the sounds of gunshots but you never see a gun being fired, and the blood you saw was some stock footage from the Colion Noir video, not actual crime scene photography. The dogs reacted the way they would to a visitor, not an invader. Everything you saw could have been faked, but the cops would not have been fooled by it.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: AxelWolfReally?????? After watching that, you thought it was staged/scripted?Quote: billryanI thought it looked staged, or at least orchestrated.
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I'm not sure how you stage 2 dogs' reactions.
Someone was shot, and police found a blood stream leading to their car.
4 people have been arrested and charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon and kidnapping.
The police tracked them down because of a stolen MacBook and a bloodstained to their vehicle.
I assumed conspiracy theorists were the only ones thinking/calling it staged.
I suggest watching and investigating it again, and then asking yourself if you still think it was staged/scripted.
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To be fair, I was open to the idea of it being fake until I read that the police arrested the criminals. Police are really sensitive about being jerked around and used in pranks, and if they thought that was what was going on it would have been the couple in the home who got arrested.
You never see the invaders hit the girl, you hear the sounds of gunshots but you never see a gun being fired, and the blood you saw was some stock footage from the Colion Noir video, not actual crime scene photography. The dogs reacted the way they would to a visitor, not an invader. Everything you saw could have been faked, but the cops would not have been fooled by it.
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The video is real it was a big story when it happened and was covered by the mainstream, the victim has done
several interviews. I can see how the video can have a synthetic look.
Quote: rainmanQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: AxelWolfReally?????? After watching that, you thought it was staged/scripted?Quote: billryanI thought it looked staged, or at least orchestrated.
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I'm not sure how you stage 2 dogs' reactions.
Someone was shot, and police found a blood stream leading to their car.
4 people have been arrested and charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon and kidnapping.
The police tracked them down because of a stolen MacBook and a bloodstained to their vehicle.
I assumed conspiracy theorists were the only ones thinking/calling it staged.
I suggest watching and investigating it again, and then asking yourself if you still think it was staged/scripted.
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To be fair, I was open to the idea of it being fake until I read that the police arrested the criminals. Police are really sensitive about being jerked around and used in pranks, and if they thought that was what was going on it would have been the couple in the home who got arrested.
You never see the invaders hit the girl, you hear the sounds of gunshots but you never see a gun being fired, and the blood you saw was some stock footage from the Colion Noir video, not actual crime scene photography. The dogs reacted the way they would to a visitor, not an invader. Everything you saw could have been faked, but the cops would not have been fooled by it.
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The video is real it was a big story when it happened and was covered by the mainstream, the victim has done
several interviews. I can see how the video can have a synthetic look.
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Oh I totally believe it. But the video alone was not enough to convince me. Remember Jussie Smollett was a big story too, wall-to-wall news coverage, everyone in media was at least pretending to believe it as were the police, and it turned out to be total BS once people started looking at it critically.
When the police think you've fired a gun in a crime, the way you get arrested and handled isn't fun, and those kids would have been terrified and explained themselves right away if they were just actors in a prank.
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4 people have been arrested and charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon and kidnapping.
The police tracked them down because of a stolen MacBook and a bloodstained to their vehicle.
LOL. The going rate for bribing a police officer is a 20th of what Amouranth earns in a bad month. That's easily accomplished.
A bigger barrier would be getting the teenagers to accept jail time. But not insurmountable given they may have been influenced by being part of Amouranth's highly parasocial audience. They are her exact target demographic. I imagine she could find a clueless kid who will volunteer for $250K or even less.Hell she could probably get someone to do it for free if she really wanted, streamer culture is warped.
The publicity from the case is worth multi-millions so it likely would pay off.
Yes, anything possable is possable, including but not limited to...Quote: DougGanderQuote: AxelWolf
4 people have been arrested and charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon and kidnapping.
The police tracked them down because of a stolen MacBook and a bloodstained to their vehicle.
LOL. The going rate for bribing a police officer is a 20th of what Amouranth earns in a bad month. That's easily accomplished.
A bigger barrier would be getting the teenagers to accept jail time. But not insurmountable given they may have been influenced by being part of Amouranth's highly parasocial audience. They are her exact target demographic. I imagine she could find a clueless kid who will volunteer for $250K or even less.Hell she could probably get someone to do it for free if she really wanted, streamer culture is warped.
The publicity from the case is worth multi-millions so it likely would pay off.
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18 YOs in a row.
Winning 60-some hands in a row at BJ.
5 single line Royals in a day. (Proven BS)
Beating online and casino roulette daily for many years.
Winning millions for years on baccarat while getting high fives and full-time RFB.
We are graced with all these anomalies on this very forum, plus many more. Imagine that. The odds of that must be astronomical if all those things are true.
I prefer to use some common sense and logic.
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She is already making multi-millions of dollars, according to independent reports, but they both think it's a good idea to fake this.
Perhaps you think she had a dry run to see how her dogs would react in that situation.
Perhaps you think she idiotically hired underage teens to help stage this.
Perhaps you think she thought it was a good idea for them to be armed with guns.
Perhaps you think she thought it was a good idea for her BF to shoot someone who was coming around a corner while ducking just in time.
Perhaps you think they risked everything with the possibility of someone being killed.
Perhaps you think she was confident she could pay off the cops.
Perhaps you think they thought EVERYONE would keep their mouths shut no matter what happened.
Perhaps you think she would risk people finding out this was all fake, losing everything, and going to prison, for a moderate boost in profits?
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Perhaps you think they thought EVERYONE would keep their mouths shut no matter what happened.
Perhaps you think she would risk people finding out this was all fake, losing everything, and going to prison, for a moderate boost in profits?
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Like an awful lot of posts on this forum you seem to be rather out of touch with the modern world and unwilling to look up the numbers on this stuff. Hence you think it is difficult to bribe some star-struck dumb kids, and a few police officers-when in one recent case that was accomplished with some bottles of water and swedish cheese.
Also, you seem to think that everyone is governed by some kind of rationalist thinking which has never been the case anywhere. You seem unaware of the very large amount of criminal activity going in the celebrity/political world which has become extremely commonplace and public.
There are literally millions of streamers. The ones that are successful do horrible things no normal human would contemplate to get there. Amouranth is an emotionally cold, intelligent sociopath quite capable of organizing something like this.
I do love the "she would risk people finding out this was all fake" comment, as if she were some kind of paragon of civic virtue that depended upon the approval of society. In reality she probably doesn't care that much if she does get caught because that means even more publicity and money for an extended period.Hell they'd probably make a movie out of it.
Quote: EvenBobWhy Bitcoin Is Doomed to Fail http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/04/05/why-bitcoin-is-doomed-to-fail/
It has to fail and it will fail, wait and see.
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I’ve waited 13 years from this post. How much longer do I have to wait?
AHigh bought two at $130 each. I hope he sold when they hit $125K. EACH.
I actually enjoyed reading the posts from 2013.
The reason I re-looked at this thread has been due to the precipitous fall in BTC over the past 4 months. $125k to $80k is a drop, if applied to the stock market, that would be called a ‘crash’.
Even though I chide EB, I never got on board either. It still doesn’t make sense to me.
Quote: SOOPOOIt still doesn’t make sense to me.
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All you get is a serial number... sounds fiat to me.I would NEVER buy BC with AU/AG... FIAT CURRENCIES ONLY.
10/4/25 = $122,261
2/26/26 = $66,728
That is a 45% drop.
I've been saying for years Bitcoin is a fad, a tulip, a Ponzi scheme. Could this be the pop or another "halving" (is that the correct spelling?) as it tends to get called, before a 4x run-up? I'm selling my 0.06 Bitcoin, which shows the direction I think it's going.
I mined throughout the 25 BTC era. Now the block reward is down to 3.125 BTC.
Quote: WizardBitcoin values:
10/4/25 = $122,261
2/26/26 = $66,728
That is a 45% drop.
I've been saying for years Bitcoin is a fad, a tulip, a Ponzi scheme. Could this be the pop or another "halving" (is that the correct spelling?) as it tends to get called, before a 4x run-up? I'm selling my 0.06 Bitcoin, which shows the direction I think it's going.
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There are a few Beanie Babies that are still worth a lot of money but most of them are landfill material. Like Bitcoin will be someday.
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There are a few Beanie Babies that are still worth a lot of money but most of them are landfill material. Like Bitcoin will be someday.
How can Bitcoin be landfill material as they are virtual?
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
There are a few Beanie Babies that are still worth a lot of money but most of them are landfill material. Like Bitcoin will be someday.
How can Bitcoin be landfill material as they are virtual?
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This joke is just coming across as cruelty now.
Quote: WizardBitcoin values:
10/4/25 = $122,261
2/26/26 = $66,728
That is a 45% drop.
It also increased 66773% from 2010 to 2026.
Now you want to sell because it went down to 66728%. Tough crowd....
My nephew is a Bitcoin bug. He doesn't make a lot of money but he was buying $50 slices while I was still in NY. He's borrowed against them but has never sold any. It doesn't bother him in the least that it has lost 40% or more and produced no dividends for the last year plus.
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
There are a few Beanie Babies that are still worth a lot of money but most of them are landfill material. Like Bitcoin will be someday.
How can Bitcoin be landfill material as they are virtual?
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I was speaking metaphorically, look it up if you're confused.
Quote: DougGanderNow you want to sell because it went down to 66728%. Tough crowd....
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I'll keep my eye on you.
Every time bitcoin goes through this cycle people say it is doomed. Bitcoin is going nowhere.
Quote: vegasThis drop is the normal cycle for Bitcoin. I just bought some and will keep buying until it bottoms. I have long hold Bitcoin but also I have an account that I buy when down and sell when it goes up. The volatility is a swing traders dream.
Every time bitcoin goes through this cycle people say it is doomed. Bitcoin is going nowhere.
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For this to be the case the random fluctuation has to be intrinsically random and not geared towards the fundamentals.
That is probably, largely, the case, But not entirely. On the one hand it does look like it is becoming a viable currency in the developing world. On the other hand stablecoins seem to be doing that better. And, the day when bitcoin becomes accepted in countries with stable domestic currencies looks increasingly to be...never.
You do run a risk with your trading strategy that one day btc hype fades and one day it settles near its actual value which is a tiny fraction of its current value-the incremental gains you made before that happened might not compensate you for a big loss from which is will never recover. But good luck.
Quote:...I just bought some and will keep buying until it bottoms...
Well, if you know where the bottom is, why don't you wait until then to buy?
Quote: CalderQuote:...I just bought some and will keep buying until it bottoms...
Well, if you know where the bottom is, why don't you wait until then to buy?
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One reason is keeping the habit of investing regularly. Once you get used to spending the money, it can be hard to go back to investing it.
Quote: billryanQuote: CalderQuote:...I just bought some and will keep buying until it bottoms...
Well, if you know where the bottom is, why don't you wait until then to buy?
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One reason is keeping the habit of investing regularly. Once you get used to spending the money, it can be hard to go back to investing it.
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This!
A few decades ago (actually 35 years!)I bought a whole life policy. In theory they are not the best way to invest money, and if you really want ‘insurance’ you should by term life. But I got a yearly ‘bill’, which forced me to invest that money. I sometimes forget to consider that $$ is now in my ‘portfolio’. The cash out value if I needed the money is around 5x what I paid in premiums. So 80+% would be subject to tax. But zero if my heirs get it upon my kicking the bucket.
Quote: CalderQuote:...I just bought some and will keep buying until it bottoms...
Well, if you know where the bottom is, why don't you wait until then to buy?
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I don’t know the bottom of course. So say I buy at 65000. The next day it goes to 64000. I only buy at 5% drops from my last buy so wait until it drops another 3250. So my buy order is in at 61,750. If it hits this number my order is automatically triggered. If it goes up I sit back and watch Rinse and repeat. My swing trades are bought the same way only I sell on 5% gains
Quote: vegasQuote: CalderQuote:...I just bought some and will keep buying until it bottoms...
Well, if you know where the bottom is, why don't you wait until then to buy?
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I don’t know the bottom of course. So say I buy at 65000. The next day it goes to 64000. I only buy at 5% drops from my last buy so wait until it drops another 3250. So my buy order is in at 61,750. If it hits this number my order is automatically triggered. If it goes up I sit back and watch Rinse and repeat. My swing trades are bought the same way only I sell on 5% gains
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AKA "picking up pennies in front of a steamroller" Similar to a martingale structurally.
This actually works pretty well when the government is coming out with seemingly contradictory economic statements regularly. How much are you up out of curiosity? Express it as a % if the absolute number is not something you want to reveal.
I recently opened an account that will be split by my grand nephews and nieces. With a $4500 budget, I bought $500 worth of a BC ETF that is currently worth about $490. Yesterday, I bought $250 worth of SSK and will reinvest the payouts. Either Solerna goes to zero, and I lose $250, or my family inherits twenty years of growth in what is said to be a superior cryptocurrency.
While I wouldn't recommend this to anyone as an investment, I look at it differently. I see it as pre-paying for their 25th birthday presents. Right now, it would be a three-way split, and the youngest has 23 years to compound his share, although I expect there are more in the pipeline.
Currently, the portfolio has six holdings, roughly in equal amounts, with a monthly $100 contribution that is split equally, and all dividends are reinvested. I'm literally using this as my spare change bottle. Any credit card transaction on my internet accounts is rounded up to the next dollar, and when the total reaches $10, it is transferred to this account.
It would be nice to hand them the checks.
I am long retired so this has turned into a very enjoyable and profitable hobby for me. Sure it is frustrating when Bitcoin goes down like it is now but if you understand it then you know what to expect. If I live long enough I fully expect Bitcoin to hit a million dollars a coin. Yes many will laugh at that number but I remember when it was 4200 people said you just threw away your money. Most negativity comes from those who never invest.
When I die my kids will reap the benefits and that was my main reason for starting this quest.
Those who believe I am wrong I understand your reasoning and you have to do what you believe in.

