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FleaStiff
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May 24th, 2013 at 6:29:14 AM permalink
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I'm disappointed with the Gibraltar Gambling Commission.
First, for playing the "blame the victim" card. It should not matter that an alleged bonus abuser using a false identity was the one who warned other players about a fraudulent game.


Heck, its always a lying cheating gambler who complains that the dealer is dealing from the bottom of the deck! After all, its the lying cheating gamblers who watch for such things and know it when they see it. They might even want to deal that way themselves and only be objecting to others dealing to them from the bottom of the deck ... so what?

When there is a scoundrel dealing from the bottom of the deck... a lynch mob may start forming... when it does... you can be one of the gentlemen or one of the scoundrels carrying a hanging rope.... but don't be one of the dealers who is about to be hanged!! Sure, there will be lying cheats amongst the lynch party. Where else would they be? That's the safest place for them to be!

Very few saintly types will ever point out a bottom dealer... the saintly types are the ones getting cheated and not catching it. The sharpies are the ones who are alert for it. All these individuals and associated entities claiming ignorance and purity of heart are fools if they think we will believe this nonsense about "we didn't know".
4ofaKind
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May 25th, 2013 at 5:39:27 AM permalink
Here are a couple of posts with my opinions I made at BB touching on certain topics if anyone is interested in reading.

http://www.beatingbonuses.com/forums/showpost.php?p=86268&postcount=566


http://www.beatingbonuses.com/forums/showpost.php?p=86276&postcount=567
Mosca
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May 25th, 2013 at 6:30:18 AM permalink
"What's even harder to comprehend is the amount of suckers that are still out there even after learning everything that's actually going on. Online gaming today falls into the same bracket as responding to an e-mail and sending money to Africa to pay for a lawyer so they could send you millions of an inheritance. "

That's how I've felt since day one of online gaming.

I have some input that I think is useful, but it is tangental to the main point, the one that is being addressed very solidly by those who are much closer to the action. Speaking from the bottom up, though, my opinion is that online gambling will never be widely adopted by most people who gamble for recreation. And this scandal is why. Online gambling is important to people who can't live without gambling. For the rest of us, it will never be an option.
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odiousgambit
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May 25th, 2013 at 7:39:43 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Online gambling is important to people who can't live without gambling. For the rest of us, it will never be an option.



Marching shoulder to shoulder with you on that sir.

Will resolve crumble when legitimized US-run companies offer internet?
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
Mosca
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May 25th, 2013 at 9:13:47 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

Marching shoulder to shoulder with you on that sir.

Will resolve crumble when legitimized US-run companies offer internet?



Probably not. There are some ancillary reasons. For many of us, gambling is not the entire reason we go to casinos. But the idea that when we gamble we are getting a fair, regulated game is the reason we've chosen that as a destination for the evening, or the weekend, or the week.

With online gambling, there is nothing other than the bet. If the provider of the wager offers nothing else, and has no expenses other than programming and maintenance of hardware and software and accounting, then I would expect better odds, for one.

Regardless, the belief that there is no way I could be guaranteed a fair gamble would trump everything else. And no, I would not trust Caesar's... they would calculate the risk of the cost of the fine vs how much they could make before getting caught.
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4ofaKind
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May 27th, 2013 at 5:59:35 AM permalink
This is the type of regulation I expect to see before I would consider gaming online again. Posted by me at BB.

http://www.beatingbonuses.com/forums/showpost.php?p=86291&postcount=575
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4ofaKind
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June 5th, 2013 at 2:04:51 PM permalink
Read this additional reply from the GRA if you're looking for entertainment.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/57063-announcement-gra-concerning-hilo-reeldeal-games-20.html#post560780
binary128
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June 6th, 2013 at 9:15:11 AM permalink
Well, I once again braved the ire of all "defending parties" (or perhaps more accurately "offending parties") by jumping into the fray and adding my 2 cents.

Actually, I thought the "throwing snowballs at the tanks" thing was kind of funny.

Chris
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June 6th, 2013 at 11:27:22 AM permalink
Quote: 4ofaKind

Read this additional reply from the GRA if you're looking for entertainment.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/57063-announcement-gra-concerning-hilo-reeldeal-games-20.html#post560780



I was not amused. Shows once more Phil Brear is not a regulator but a joke, a moron, a shill, a puppet, a figurehead, a fraud, a placebo, ...

The interesting part is this though: "GRA is not the Gibraltar gambling regulator. The GRA has had nothing to do with us for nearly three years. So all those who tell us what our rules say appear to have not even looked at them, as they make explicit that the Gibraltar Gambling Commissioner is the Gibraltar regulator, and publishes the rules, known as RTOS (Remote Technical and Operating Standards), and how they are to be applied in such circumstances. "

So, what I take from that is that the "Gibraltar gambling regulator" is not bound by any rules except those he makes and interprets himself, so he is just a tool (double-entendre intentional) of the online gambling industry to create trust and the illusion of regulation that is in fact non-existent.

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