$1M @101% EV = 10k profit

On avg, $1M coin-in @ 101% EV = 10k profit.
so slot APs who claim to make 6 figures are doing at least $10M coin-in per year @ 101% ev?!

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On avg, $1M coin-in @ 101% EV = 10k profit.
so slot APs who claim to make 6 figures are doing at least $10M coin-in per year @ 101% ev?!
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My guess is that their EV is higher than that when they include marketing offers. When I was playing a lot I would average about $50k a day in coin in and that was under four hours per day of play. A full time player could get a lot more handle.

I don’t play any slots really at 1% edge. Between all properties I would say I had about 4 million coin in. I don’t know for sure but that’s based off my main club cards that tell you.

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On avg, $1M coin-in @ 101% EV = 10k profit.
so slot APs who claim to make 6 figures are doing at least $10M coin-in per year @ 101% ev?!
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My guess is that their EV is higher than that when they include marketing offers. When I was playing a lot I would average about $50k a day in coin in and that was under four hours per day of play.
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50k a day? How many days per week?

I mean just for one play I did, I did 55k coin in and the play was worth 50% roughly.

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On avg, $1M coin-in @ 101% EV = 10k profit.
so slot APs who claim to make 6 figures are doing at least $10M coin-in per year @ 101% ev?!
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My guess is that their EV is higher than that when they include marketing offers. When I was playing a lot I would average about $50k a day in coin in and that was under four hours per day of play.
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50k a day? How many days per week?
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I was just a casual player, maybe three or four days per week unless there was a particularly great promo going on. I always worked a full-time job too so that limited my play.

Playing dollar video poker at a good pace, you can do $4,000 an hour. On a $5 machine, that would be $20,000 an hour so $100,000 a day would be possible. Someone playing five hours a day three days a week would do a few million a month.

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On avg, $1M coin-in @ 101% EV = 10k profit.
so slot APs who claim to make 6 figures are doing at least $10M coin-in per year @ 101% ev?!

You have not included the EV from mailers and points.

For years I supplemented my blackjack play with some VP play and almost all my EV came from the mailers.

In some cases, putting $500K each on two cards is better EV than a million on one card. It's easier to beat the marketing department than the machines.

There are very few things I would even concider playing with only a 1% advantage anymore.

I guess I would be willing to play a fast IGT video blackjack machine with a 1% advantage or something online using a program to play for me.

I do not think I could sit and play VP all day long at 1% nowadays.

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In some cases, putting $500K each on two cards is better EV than a million on one card. It's easier to beat the marketing department than the machines.
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It actually amazes me that you understand this but don't believe my claims.

Literally this is (In some fashion) what I do only why stop with two cards?

It's so obvious I can't understand why people can't believe it.

The only thing is I pick extremely high -EV games because I don't want to be sitting around doing $500,000 coin in on a single card.

There are quicker and more profitable methods than hitting 1% machines

I don't think anyone doubts your claim that you multi-card. I certainly don't. It's the nonsense like making $20,000 s week and your ridiculous claims about lemonlabob that destroyed your credibility in my eyes.

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I don't think anyone doubts your claim that you multi-card. I certainly don't. It's the nonsense like making $20,000 s week and your ridiculous claims about lemonlabob that destroyed your credibility in my eyes.
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Explain why you feel someone can't make $20,000 in a week, several weeks out of the year (not every week)?

As for Leronlimab I am only an investor. The science is public and real. The drug PASSED it's phase 3 end points for HIV. (To say the drug is grape juice as you have tried is therefore simply ridiculous).

The next step after meeting endpoints is to file a BLA (Biologics Licence Application). That was done but had serious issues from a third vendor screw up and received a RTF(Refuse To File). The BLA is being fixed at this very moment (not a quick fix). And simultaneously the Covid trials are being started up again in the USA.

Interestingly, the RTF is an excellent read. Although it is a negative chapter in Cytodyn history, there can be no doubt that the FDA reviewed the information and that Leronlimab is a working (safety and efficacy) drug. They literally examine in the RTF mounds and pages of data assembled. No way the FDA is being fooled into thinking Leronlimab is anything but a safe and effective drug.

Some short sellers are attacking and taking advantage (as much as 60 million shares are short at any given time although I think it's upper thirties right now) but the price will go back up.

I am certain enough of that I have been adding at these low prices.

I currently have about $90,000 invested in Cytodyn and about $50,000 into a Crispr. Guess where that money came from? Multicarding

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When I was playing a lot I would average about $50k a day in coin in and that was under four hours per day of play.
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I barely do $5k coin-in for 2hrs.
What are you playing to get $12k/hr coin-in?

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When I was playing a lot I would average about $50k a day in coin in and that was under four hours per day of play.
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I barely do $5k coin-in for 2hrs.
What are you playing to get $12k/hr coin-in?
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Most of it was $5 denom and $10 denom video poker.

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When I was playing a lot I would average about $50k a day in coin in and that was under four hours per day of play.
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I barely do $5k coin-in for 2hrs.
What are you playing to get $12k/hr coin-in?
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Most of it was $5 denom and $10 denom video poker.

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When I was playing a lot I would average about $50k a day in coin in and that was under four hours per day of play.
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I barely do $5k coin-in for 2hrs.
What are you playing to get $12k/hr coin-in?
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Most of it was $5 denom and $10 denom video poker.
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You play slowly??

$5/coin X 5 coins = $25 per play
10 hands per minute = $250 per minute
12k/hr ÷ $250/min = 48 minutes

Nothing wrong with slow play. I do it myself.

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When I was playing a lot I would average about $50k a day in coin in and that was under four hours per day of play.
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I barely do $5k coin-in for 2hrs.
What are you playing to get $12k/hr coin-in?
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Most of it was $5 denom and $10 denom video poker.
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You play slowly??

$5/coin X 5 coins = $25 per play
10 hands per minute = $250 per minute
12k/hr ÷ $250/min = 48 minutes

Nothing wrong with slow play. I do it myself.
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The machines I was playing were the old CEI video poker games and they were very slow. I also meant that I rarely played more than four hours a day not that $50k coin in was for four hours. There was also a handpay every 20-30 minutes so that slowed it way down. For a while they did a promotion where every handpay received a $100 free play bonus. That was one of the most profitable plays that I ever had hitting one every 20-30 minutes.

On election day in 2004 I did a good promo on a $1 VP game. I did over 17K hands or more than $85K coin in. The promo was no good on the higher denom VP games or I would have been playing them. I had a rare 25x multiplier on VP where I did $375K on a $5 VP game and flopped a Royal. I usually clock over 24 hands per minute. I rarely grind out VP promos anymore. It is hard to get a 1% edge on a VP play that is not capped at low total coin in. A few years ago, I had an insane edge on a play to earn. I capped out in two days on a promo that was supposed to take last two months. The casino was not ready to pay out the max payout that soon. There was a one day delay in getting paid out. The two of us had a combined theoretical edge of $13K for two days of work. I was worried that the casino would cancel or modify the promo so rushed the play through.

If I had $50K of coin-in per night on the Bubble Craps and I was winning an average of 2% over even, I'd be up $1,000 a night. But craps is a fickle game with Hot Shooters or not and many trips are pointless, but the occasional winning streak(s) would bring me up to my 2%+ winning average. This is just based on speculation. I expect my winning average will be much higher once I reach the $50K coin-in per night stage. At a table, they don't even count coin-in, they count buy-ins.

Buy a casino. When a player bets $1M on banker in baccarat you’ll have a $10,600 expected profit.