Ahigh
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February 26th, 2019 at 11:36:52 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

From what I've gathered "information" wise, the Four Queens in Vegas sweats the money on the craps tables. I don't know about over at Binions(which they own so I'm told/read).



Some of the biggest heart-flutters I've gotten is butting heads with pit crews at:

* BINIONS
* LAS VEGAS CLUB (back in the day, I think it shut down)
* FREMONT CASINO (three dollar table million dollar worries, HILARIOUS!)

They never banned me. Fiesta Rancho banned me for doing spreadsheets and telling them exactly what I was doing to exploit any dice bias they might have for buying dice that were not as precise as advertised in which faces are more likely to resolve.

I never did that routine twice, but I did determine it's a bad place for you to be to have casinos worried about you defeating their house edge with actual real-world samples.
Lovecomps
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February 26th, 2019 at 2:14:44 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

Quote: LuckyPhow

Quote: FleaStiff

God doesn't play dice with the universe




As far as dice setting goes..... I can't stand when people play with the dice for minutes and set them before they shoot. I havent seen anyone have a good long roll yet when doing it.

The best things in life are not free.
sodawater
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February 26th, 2019 at 2:17:00 PM permalink
If you are going to play craps anyway, dice setting is +EV because when you inevitably have long, random good rolls, looking like you know what you're doing greatly increase the chances of tips from other players who have made money on your rolls.
Lovecomps
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February 26th, 2019 at 2:25:24 PM permalink
They don't bother me because they increase my time at the table and raise my ADT at no cost to me. When they finally go though, it just a bit irritating when, rather than throw the dice to the opposite side, they toss them high enough to hit the eye in the sky.

If certain people get suspended from this site for this reason or that, why not just treat dice setting talk the same way and put it to bed already. (sorry for the double post).
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ALEXANDRA1115
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March 3rd, 2019 at 5:37:42 PM permalink
GG AND I WAS GONNA SAY YOU DOUBLE POSTED
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March 3rd, 2019 at 5:56:33 PM permalink
Quote: ALEXANDRA1115

GG AND I WAS GONNA SAY YOU DOUBLE POSTED



Umm, hi. Please stop the all-caps. Also, warning on the vague insult here - both on insulting members, and the odd cursing.

Well, that's where I started, but now that your next 5 posts are meaningless identical flooding, I've suspended the account.

You can appeal, if you want, through the main sign-in portal.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
Ahigh
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March 14th, 2019 at 4:09:35 AM permalink
Quote: sodawater

If you are going to play craps anyway, dice setting is +EV.



Even if dice setting were positive EV (which is a dubious claim at best) you are annoying dealers who can and will make mistakes to cause you to lose faster.

If you're not catching dealer mistakes, you are not going to get positive EV even with good tossing skills.

Also, if you just fling the dice, and you tip nice, you'll see dealer mistakes in your favor, especially when you don't correct the bigger denom mistakes in the house's favor against another player at the table.

All's well that ends well.
onebok
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March 19th, 2019 at 6:46:48 AM permalink
Quote: nickolay411

It is possible to land both or just one dice as a dead cat bounce. The bossman will no-roll it though. Unless they are not paying attention.



I assume you mean a dead cat bounce is "possible" but is certainly not a result of anyone's "skill" at tossing such a rare occurrence. I would say that when it occurs, it was a result of an interaction between the two die that, due to the physics of their motions and contact, managed to make one or both die appear to dead-cat. More like a bad toss from a "DI".

And the "bossman" should call it a "shortie" and let it ride since it is likely to be a seven as any other result.

Should a DI toss dice with an arc that allows the dice to land with no spin on the flat of their surface, they could bounce upward and perhaps land flat and stick. A dead cat, due to a die's backspin, forward speed and friction at contact with the table surface, would be highly dependent on surface friction characteristics of the specific material... all of this in addition to a mythological level of DI, MP not withstanding.
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March 19th, 2019 at 7:06:37 AM permalink
No. Next thread.
onebok
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March 19th, 2019 at 8:23:56 AM permalink
Quote: SM777

No. Next thread.



Since Ahigh and others, including myself, who have considerable knowledge and experience with DI, have shared practical info on this thread, Nickolay might be interested, since he says he is making a film on gambling and goes to far away places like Macau to game.

Is there something you were trying to illuminate with your comment?

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