Mitcher69
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July 23rd, 2016 at 7:35:13 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

You don't need anybody to try this. Do it yourself. Here is a conspiracy theory: Why doesn't the stick send the dice back on sevens? Oh we know the standard answer, bad luck, so they say, but maybe there is more to this practice.......Que Twilight Zone theme music!!



All I can say is when I don't do this and pick them up and throw randomly, the seven shows more often.
Maybe it is mostly metaphysics but craps is kind of a superstitious game anyway.

True funny story:
I was up at Cripple Creek in the summer some years back and on a table where a guy from Texas was on a massive roll, you could feel the energy. Suddenly out of nowhere comes a pale overweight couple from Kansas (not judging---just setting the scene). The woman of the two comes up to the table and says to her husband "Isn't this the game where you're not supposed to throw a seven"

The shooter goes ballistic!! He starts yelling at them and her for what seemed like a minute.

Finally they slink away, he picks up the dice and throws.
You guessed it.... seven out ;)
JoelDeze
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July 23rd, 2016 at 10:18:20 PM permalink
Quote: Mitcher69

I already know ahead of time that I'm going to get some heat on this BUT out of 50 sessions, I've had 30 winnings ones, 15 that were about break even and only 5 that were losers.
After the point is established, I simply set the die to all sevens around. I start by facing the sixes vertically (like "trees") then turn them quickly to the left and rotate the right die until all sevens show, including a six on the left and one on the right.
The theory here is hold them tight and then throw them hard, I bank on the fact that the odds of them landing exactly how I threw them (hard) is not as likely as the same pattern.

Any thoughts?



I decided to test your theory on my final roll of the day today.

Started with 6 6 on top and 4 3 facing. Stacked the 6s vertically and turned them left towards the table. This gave me 6-1 on the outside, 5-2 and 4-3 all around (basic all 7 set). I rolled a long time but didn't keep count. My wife and I had to leave because we had puppy duty and only a short time to play today but I'm going to try this out again. I definitely heard some people muttering while I set this. I would have to roll using this set a minimum of 10 turns and on several nights to see if there is any truth to it. I thought for sure I'd 7-out in a couple of rolls and hear groans.
Its a dog eat dog world out there and Im wearing milkbone underwear . Norm Peterson
ontariodealer
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July 23rd, 2016 at 10:58:13 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

You don't need anybody to try this. Do it yourself. Here is a conspiracy theory: Why doesn't the stick send the dice back on sevens? Oh we know the standard answer, bad luck, so they say, but maybe there is more to this practice.......Que Twilight Zone theme music!!



if we did, everyone over 60 would shit their pants.
get second you pig
AxelWolf
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July 23rd, 2016 at 11:26:14 PM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

I would have to roll using this set a minimum of 10 turns and on several nights to see if there is any truth to it.

Yes because that's very scientific. I get it now.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
JoelDeze
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July 24th, 2016 at 6:22:01 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Yes because that's very scientific. I get it now.



Absolutely. I'll call it the AxelWolf Cognitive Craps Test.
Its a dog eat dog world out there and Im wearing milkbone underwear . Norm Peterson
AxelWolf
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July 24th, 2016 at 9:47:27 AM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

Absolutely. I'll call it the AxelWolf Cognitive Craps Test.

Please I insist you claim and name it after yourself.

I'll never understand why seemingly well educated, smart individuals who have good math skills and have been gambling for year's have some crazy ass gambling theories and believe in a bunch of cockamami crap. Yet there's twenty something year old kids, guys who road the rails and hit the bottle, people with very little education, people who by all reasonable logic should be the ones who have crazy theories and hairbraind ideas, yet they don't and they get it.

The more I think about it it seems to be almost random who gets it and who doesn't.

In your case you have some websites service or whatever, so I don't even know if you yourself really believe in whatever your trying to "sell us".
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
JoelDeze
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July 24th, 2016 at 9:50:33 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Please I insist you claim and name it after yourself.

I'll never understand why seemingly well educated, smart individuals who have good math skills and have been gambling for year's have some crazy ass gambling theories and believe in a bunch of cockamami crap. Yet there's twenty something year old kids, guys who road the rails and hit the bottle, people with very little education, people who by all reasonable logic should be the ones who have crazy theories and hairbraind ideas, yet they don't and they get it.

The more I think about it it seems to be almost random who gets it and who doesn't.

In your case you have some websites service or whatever, so I don't even know if you yourself really believe in whatever your trying to "sell us".



I think you misunderstand. I was actually making a joke. Would it have helped if I said that using this system I definitely have an 83% chance to avoid the 7 entirely?
Its a dog eat dog world out there and Im wearing milkbone underwear . Norm Peterson
pingclassic
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July 24th, 2016 at 10:03:24 AM permalink
Is your profile pic from RAD?
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment...<Will Rogers>
JoelDeze
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July 24th, 2016 at 10:15:50 AM permalink
From a mathematical point of view, considering axis roll tests:

There is a 15.63% chance to hit the 7 with this dice set.
There is a 70% chance to hit the 7 on the 2-5 or 5-2 combined.
There is a 29-30% chance to hit the 7 on the 3-4 or 4-3 combined.
There is under a 1% chance to hit the 7 on the 1-6 or 6-1 combined.

The advantage using this set would be to hop only the 5-2.

$1 units

First 5 rolls:

1/1/1/1/1

If the 7 hits on the 5th roll you lose $4 and receive $16. Net return is $12.

Next 5 rolls:

$2 units

2/2/2/2/2

If the 7 hits on the 10th roll you lose $13 and receive $32. Net return is $19.

Next 5 rolls:

$4 units

If the 7 hits on the 15th roll you lose $31 and receive $60. Net return is $29.
Its a dog eat dog world out there and Im wearing milkbone underwear . Norm Peterson
Wildwillis1
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July 24th, 2016 at 10:29:41 AM permalink
Just to throw my opinion out there. As a D&D player, I will tell you that rolling dice (d6, d12 d20 ect.) That it's always random no matter how you try to throw/roll the dice. Is DI possible, idk, but from past experience and thousands of rolls, it seems that I always get the number I don't want. (In example, roll anything but a 1 on a d20 or die, always rolls the 1 and dies) story of my D&D life)
As a landscaper you learn a few things. 1. Mushrooms can be as hard as rocks. 2. It's not how fast you mow. But how well you mow fast. 3. Not all grass was created equal.

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