ontariodealer
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September 8th, 2015 at 11:29:56 PM permalink
suggested team names... the cubs, the clippers, the maple leafs
get second you pig
RS
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September 9th, 2015 at 12:35:39 AM permalink
^ Is that a reference to losing sports teams? The first two caught my attention, then I got confused by the third one, a hippie-sounding name.
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AxelWolf
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September 9th, 2015 at 12:35:57 AM permalink
Quote: Pinit2winit

Just moved to N Las vegas

That may be you're first mistake.
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I'll give the benefit of doubt and believe this is a legitimate post and not some attempt to ruffle forum feathers.

So I'm Just curious.....

what type of work do you do?

What's DI background? Classes? Practice? "educational" Books?

why would someone such as yourself choose DI over all the other legitimate AP options?

I get why some old timers won't give up the DI fantasy. They were probably hooked on craps before or soon after all the DI hype. You know, before the all the slow motion videos, back before everyone knew better.

I should probably stay out of it, I don't need more AP competition.

You're young there is still hope for you, but I get the feeling you won't change your mind no matter what.

You can follow down the path of the Rob Singers and system bettors of the world, or take the advice of guys like the Wizard and successful proven AP's. I guarantee if you choose the first path you'll end up wasting time, money and possibly worst. Many DI's end up with an obsession or addiction.

No one has ever proven an advantage using DI. All evidence point to it being a big fantasy.
Read dicesitters history, he's someone with his own table, years of practice, a "good shot" yet he still doesn't seem to have an advantage. You have smart, very determined, dedicated guys like Ahigh who have all the advanced equipment and means.You can follow his journey and see how impractical, improbable and IMO impossible this will be, especially if you lack a table. Even if you were somehow super special and could influence the dice ever so slightly. Do you have the proper bankroll?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Pinit2winit
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September 9th, 2015 at 4:55:36 AM permalink
Wow, first let me say thanks to all of you who responded :O. Even wizard!! I've see probably all of your stuff. Anyways, axelwolf, yes this was serious and I'm military I chose this base with a selection program so my wife can continue her schooling. I'm 27 and this was no troll post. Honestly I have reservations about DI myself but If you or anyone else had free time to go out and play a few and I happened to become an advantage player with the help of some of you I would consider this post a success. I am not buying into the whole DI class or anything of that nature yet I'm just exploring all options of craps. I'm not in it to win for the big time although I believe everyone here wouldn't kind being apart of the next record breaking attempt. Hah. Well age is no issue. Im not just a young gun looking for cash. I enjoy the game of craps and want to play the best I can with any advantage possible. If anyone on here is in vegas though and would have some free time let me know in a messege. My wife is going home to visit for the weekend so I have all this weekend free! Woo-hoo. Thanks again all who read! (Cough wizard!) Keep on!
Pinit2winit
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September 9th, 2015 at 4:57:45 AM permalink
Oh my bankroll varies upon winnings. I took 60 to 700 over a few weeks on the wizards don't pass strategy only without a don't come bet. I probably have around 300 or so now maybe 500. But like I said it's a fun time not in it to hit big or lose it all at once. It's really easy to stay even I found. Any new friendships are welcome :D
AlanMendelson
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September 9th, 2015 at 6:02:23 AM permalink
There is no harm in trying DI so try.

Craps is the only casino game where your fate is solely in the hand of the player/shooter so try your best.

Of course the casinos don't believe in DI which is why I got thrown out of NYNY and MGM and Bellagio when I got lucky. Yeah it was just luck. But they told me to leave anyway.

A team? I don't think there are enough true DIs in the world to create a team.

If your a mathematician by definition you can't believe in DI.
Pinit2winit
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September 9th, 2015 at 6:15:05 AM permalink
I guess casino friends would have been a better title hah.
standbymyman
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September 9th, 2015 at 9:27:36 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

You'll have better luck trying to herd cats than you will trying to control dem bones.




Thanks for the good laugh, V; I needed it. And I don't think many on here feel the need to argue that it doesn't work.
Dicenor33
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September 9th, 2015 at 11:02:00 AM permalink
Craps became very popular now days, sometimes it takes forever to try your shot. Even if you'll have a good roll how do you know that you have an advantage? You might be winning due to the variance. Looking for a perfect shot is a creative process, other than that don't expect any huge wins.
Ahigh
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September 9th, 2015 at 11:26:04 AM permalink
Quote: Pinit2winit

Wow, first let me say thanks to all of you who responded :O. Even wizard!! I've see probably all of your stuff. Anyways, axelwolf, yes this was serious and I'm military I chose this base with a selection program so my wife can continue her schooling. I'm 27 and this was no troll post. Honestly I have reservations about DI myself but If you or anyone else had free time to go out and play a few and I happened to become an advantage player with the help of some of you I would consider this post a success. I am not buying into the whole DI class or anything of that nature yet I'm just exploring all options of craps. I'm not in it to win for the big time although I believe everyone here wouldn't kind being apart of the next record breaking attempt. Hah. Well age is no issue. Im not just a young gun looking for cash. I enjoy the game of craps and want to play the best I can with any advantage possible. If anyone on here is in vegas though and would have some free time let me know in a messege. My wife is going home to visit for the weekend so I have all this weekend free! Woo-hoo. Thanks again all who read! (Cough wizard!) Keep on!



Sure. I haven't met a single person in my, now five year long search, for an advantage player.

Recently, Phil Ivey paid $100 to have the dice passed to me because he admired my shooting and verbally implied that there was a $100 benefit to getting the dice to me because I could shooter better than other people at the table.

I am not an advantage player. I have never been an advantage player. People tell me that I am an advantage player (for example dealers).

There are plenty of dealers who have never even seen me lose a single time.

And yet, I am not an advantage player.

I know many people who think that they ARE advantage players.

They are not. None of them. Not that I KNOW of.

In every single case, it's clear to see for someone looking that they are not.

Phil Ivey has the resources to hire a shooter. He lost $290,000 on one throw of the dice when a female friend of his was shooting.

If he were an advantage player, he wouldn't bet on everyone around the table.

As a GENERAL RULE, people who CLAIM to be AP's in craps bet small enough that it's easy to see that if they are AP's they are stupid for betting so small.

The truth is that they are not that stupid. They just aren't as honest with themselves as I am.

I could easily put together a list of 20 people who THINK that I am an AP.

I could sell classes.

I could sell software.

I could convince people that it were real.

If I were willing to lie. If I had no morals. If I had no principles.

I could do that.

I would also be giving up living in the real world.

I do pretend while I am playing because it is fun.

You will never hear me be an ass and tell people who are trying so hard that it's a lost cause.

It is fun to pretend.

I hope that this helps!

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