Ahigh
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June 20th, 2014 at 12:48:35 AM permalink
They don't let you set dice. $3 table, $300 max bet, $500 max odds IIRC. All vigs are up front, double on the 12 field.

The Tuscany, aside from $3 mins, is trying to beat out Stratosphere as having the worst math table in Vegas, AND they won't let you set.

Word is that they might even take the table out they are so skeered.

This doesn't prove that dice control works, but it proves that even the casinos are worried about it (some of them). But it could possibly be reverse psychology for all I know.
RS
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June 20th, 2014 at 12:55:47 AM permalink
Maybe they don't let you set the dice to increase the speed of the game? (Not that it would necessarily make sense to do it.)
PBguy
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June 20th, 2014 at 12:58:58 AM permalink
I stayed at the Tuscany over the weekend and it was $5 table with vig on the win for the 4/10. Didn't play the field with it being 2x on 12 (not that I play the field much anyway). Some of the worst craps dealers I've ever encountered during the day but the night shift was decent. Definitely scared of dice setters for whatever reason. I won there so I won't complain. The rooms were relatively cheap and they are HUGE.
kewlj
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June 20th, 2014 at 5:39:14 AM permalink
Tuscany blackjack is pretty bizarre as well. Extremely sweaty! 6 deck game has LESS than 50% penetration (that's MORE than 3 decks cut off). And even a very small (maybe not even profitable spread) will draw pretty extreme attention.

On the plus side, Marilyns Café has some real tasty pancakes. All you can eat pancakes $3.99, 24/7. My partner and I will be arriving home (vegas) at 11pm, from our east coast trip in a few days and our first stop on the way home will be Tuscany and Marilyn's. :) My first 2 years in Vegas, when I lived at Koval and Flamingo, Tuscany was frequently my final stop of the night after too many nights of too much drinking.
teliot
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June 20th, 2014 at 6:40:15 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Maybe they don't let you set the dice to increase the speed of the game? (Not that it would necessarily make sense to do it.)

Yes, exactly. When I talk about game pace issues with my casino clients, this is the number one complaint they have about setters, that they slow down the game. The number two complaint is that setters are often in a bad mood compared to other players and ruin the fun of the table. The last thing they are i"scared" of is so-called DI. Of course, Tuscany could be an exception.
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Dicenor33
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June 20th, 2014 at 6:42:46 AM permalink
Riviera at Chicago has $15 tables and you can't get a spot. I witnessed the man pocketing $60k, you need a place like this to gamble.
FleaStiff
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June 20th, 2014 at 7:12:50 AM permalink
Sometimes ignorant crews are moving up the ladder real fast now and may bring stone age biases with them, but more often its simply everyone at the table gets tired of these "mini rollers" who want to roll the dice a few times for luck before rolling them once for real.
Nareed
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June 20th, 2014 at 7:31:21 AM permalink
One way to spot a good stickman, IMO, is when they preset the dice for you. This happens often at the 4Q and MSS. Unless they're just trying to speed up the game?
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sabre
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June 20th, 2014 at 7:35:37 AM permalink
Can someone explain to me why dice setters slow down the game? Doesn't it take like 2 seconds to orient the dice if that is your thing? I mean, we are talking about dice with 6 pips each right?
sabre
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June 20th, 2014 at 7:35:37 AM permalink
Can someone explain to me why dice setters slow down the game? Doesn't it take like 2 seconds to orient the dice if that is your thing? I mean, we are talking about dice with 6 pips each right?

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