Stumped again with 5 number fire and can't roll a damn 4 on comeout.
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One guy yelled out "Try the 2's up" but that didn't work" but did get a "Yo" on that roll. Also tried the v3 set but no go either. Just repeated a point.
Any suggestions? I think I've asked this before but this time i'm desperate. :(
Quote: CrapsGeniousSo I did it again. This is my second time rolling 5 numbers on the fire bet and 6th point needed to roll the 4.
One guy yelled out "Try the 2's up" but that didn't work" but did get a "Yo" on that roll. Also tried the v3 set but no go either. Just repeated a point.
Any suggestions? I think I've asked this before but this time i'm desperate. :(
Strange. It's almost like your outcomes are random.
LOL
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceStrange. It's almost like your outcomes are random.
I needed a good chuckle. Thanks.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceStrange. It's almost like your outcomes are random.
No it couldn't be that there must be some combination of dice sets that will guarantee a 4....right????
:D
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceStrange. It's almost like your outcomes are random.
Forums have been on fire with zingers lately, and I love it
Quote: DeMangoSo 7 choices in the poll. Three of which are the exact same choice, V2. Sheer genius I tell you.
LOL!
I love this.
Quote: AlanMendelsonAre you complaining about only a five point payoff?
I love this.
I'm just venting because this is my second 5 point fire this month and both needed the stupid 4. I hedged the 5th number for 600 so yeah I made 650 profit along with some come bets but the 4 is gonna give me nightmares for the next few days.
Quote: CrapsGeniousI'm just venting because this is my second 5 point fire this month and both needed the stupid 4. I hedged the 5th number for 600 so yeah I made 650 profit along with some come bets but the 4 is gonna give me nightmares for the next few days.
I know exactly how you feel... sort of. Twice this month I made the 4 and didn't make any other numbers in the fire bet.
Quote: CrapsGeniousI'm just venting because this is my second 5 point fire this month and both needed the stupid 4. I hedged the 5th number for 600 so yeah I made 650 profit along with some come bets but the 4 is gonna give me nightmares for the next few days.
Update:
1's up, 4-5 facing on come out roll got me the 4 I'm after.
Not every roll but averaged 3x 4's out of 10 rolls.
Over 40 shooters from 10am - 2pm and 1x 4 number fire bet not as good as the day before where 7 fire bets were made (2x5 numbers and 5x4 numbers).
Sad day today for fire bet hedging but tomorrow is another day.
Quote: CrapsGeniousUpdate:
1's up, 4-5 facing on come out roll got me the 4 I'm after.
Not every roll but averaged 3x 4's out of 10 rolls.
Over 40 shooters from 10am - 2pm and 1x 4 number fire bet not as good as the day before where 7 fire bets were made (2x5 numbers and 5x4 numbers).
Sad day today for fire bet hedging but tomorrow is another day.
It is hard to read this post and not post an insult about the genious of craps.
But I will refrain from smartellic remarks.
1. Congratulations on making 5 points on the fire bet twice recently. And too bad your good fortune didn't continue to make the 5th point. At the time you needed just the 4, the odds of you setting a 4 as the next point as opposed to all the other numbers was only 1/8, so it is not at all surprising you did not.
2. You are probably posting on the wrong forum. There may be no one left here that believes that the way you hold the dice or toss the dice has any correlation with the numbers that appear on the dice. Asking people who do not believe in the existence of Martians what sport Martians like to play the most never gets you the answer you want.
3. I recommend Ahigh's forum, I believe it is 'goodshooter.com' You may find some advice to your liking there.
Soopoo is right. This site sucks when it comes to discussing dice sets [vbg]
Craps coach dot com shows some of this v2, v3 stuff. I just looked this up.
http://www.thecrapscoach.com/Dice-sets.htm
PS: I see my copyrighted "yo set" is not shown. Good thing, or I'd have to sue, although the 'straight sixes' is suspiciously similar.[g]
Quote: odiousgambitThen our OP posts that he has found the set to use: "4-5 facing on come out roll" Alas, I still don't know what that means either. 4 and 5 face on a V set?
He said "1's up, 4-5 facing".
So I assume he basically meant the crossed 6's set.
3 out of 10? 30% 4's? I would be buying the 4 (only) for the table max and eventually getting my own private table.Quote: CrapsGeniousUpdate:
1's up, 4-5 facing on come out roll got me the 4 I'm after.
Not every roll but averaged 3x 4's out of 10 rolls.
Over 40 shooters from 10am - 2pm and 1x 4 number fire bet not as good as the day before where 7 fire bets were made (2x5 numbers and 5x4 numbers).
Sad day today for fire bet hedging but tomorrow is another day.
Quote: SOOPOOSummary time, Crapsgenious- (By the way- what is a genious?)
1. Congratulations on making 5 points on the fire bet twice recently. And too bad your good fortune didn't continue to make the 5th point. At the time you needed just the 4, the odds of you setting a 4 as the next point as opposed to all the other numbers was only 1/8, so it is not at all surprising you did not.
2. You are probably posting on the wrong forum. There may be no one left here that believes that the way you hold the dice or toss the dice has any correlation with the numbers that appear on the dice. Asking people who do not believe in the existence of Martians what sport Martians like to play the most never gets you the answer you want.
3. I recommend Ahigh's forum, I believe it is 'goodshooter.com' You may find some advice to your liking there.
SOOPOO, that was kind of like sending your unwanted cat to the dog pound, I thought you were an anesthesiologist not a euthanologist.
Quote: JB853 out of 10? 30% 4's? I would be buying the 4 (only) for the table max and eventually getting my own private table.
I made money on the 4's no worries about that.
I used that same dice set this morning and also did well with it making 4 on the come out 2 x in 6 rolling sessions. again using "aces up", 4-5 facing me.
No fire bets this morning.
Maybe tonight after work.
Quote: CrapsGeniousI made money on the 4's no worries about that.
I used that same dice set this morning and also did well with it making 4 on the come out 2 x in 6 rolling sessions. again using "aces up", 4-5 facing me.
No fire bets this morning.
Maybe tonight after work.
You can roll 4's 30% of the time and you are still going to work? No time for that; you have a string of casinos to bankrupt!
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceYou can roll 4's 30% of the time and you are still going to work? No time for that; you have a string of casinos to bankrupt!
You're assuming I roll tons of 4's 30% of the time. let me correct this so you don't get any high hopes.
1) I had a hard time rolling a 4 on come out roll.
2) I just started to use a dice set with aces up and 4-5 facing me.
3) dice set concluded that I rolled 3 x 4's during a 10 roll session. (This does not make me a professional roller of 4's)
4) I rolled a 4 on come out roll 2 times in the morning using the same dice set. (Again, this does not make me a professional roller of 4's)
Although 4's come out using this dice set, I believe it's too early to determine such a percentage at this time.
Quote: CrapsGeniousYou're assuming I roll tons of 4's 30% of the time.
Actually I was assuming that you were able to roll a 4 on 30% of your rolls.
Quote:let me correct this so you don't get any high hopes.
Don't worry about it, I was being sarcastic. I'm well aware that you roll 4's on 1/12 of your rolls.
Quote: DiceSteve44Try sixes on top, 5-2 facing the wall. Throw with a low trajectory. I use this for sevens and eleven on the come - out. Many times 4 becomes my first point.
I have the 4 mastered now since reading an article on the mini-v.
Quote:The distribution of numbers for the mini-V is even across all box numbers, 2 of each. So you SHOULD get sixes and eights. My sig numbers for the mini V are 4,6 and 8. My configuration for the set is:
Left Die top 6 Right Die 2
Left Die facing 2 Right Die facing 4
Sixes and eights all around.....
I use this dice set left side of stick man and soft roll on axis toward the end of the "Come" bet. I'm getting better with "Buckshot 4's"8 more years till retirement.
