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April 2nd, 2013 at 1:30:17 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

You should create an account on Ustream. You can do it through facebook, or directly through UStream.

I would suggest you try to create an account directly through UStream and not link it to facebook.

Let me know if you have problems. I know it's a pain, but it's part of what you get for a free broadcast system.

I'm more than willing to help in more detail if you have more specific questions.



I'll try the ustream, I'm not that savvy on computer's.
I wouldn't sign up for facebook, I've read too many negative things, even with
kaspersky our hardrive got fried so gotta stick with whats comfortable.
Appreciate the offer to help, I'll try first then maybe I'll have better questions.

Boy your up late for a workin man, reminds me of my youth.
I was also impressed at your pamp aquisition, was it circular or rectangular?
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April 2nd, 2013 at 1:32:03 AM permalink
Rectangular.
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April 2nd, 2013 at 1:44:36 AM permalink
Whoops
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April 2nd, 2013 at 1:52:47 AM permalink
I'll be running the show tonight. I hope to see some folks there.

Also, please respect the Wizard's wishes not to create new threads on dice control. If this thread gets shut down, there is a thread on my website for the show as well.

I can understand the Wizard not wanting so much activity related to dice discussions, but if there are any issues, please do feel free to continue creating threads on my forum.
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April 2nd, 2013 at 9:34:33 PM permalink
http://youtu.be/6sGmYoiDVJI?t=8m

Things got rolling alright about 8 minutes in, so the link just starts you off there, but if you want to watch the rough start you can.

I did manage to get all 200 rolls in about an hour and fifteen minutes.

I had a few technical difficulties, but it went alright. Thanks for watching.

Hopefully future 200 roll sessions I can pick into an hour.

If you start watching here this is where I do an analysis on the results and compare to the "SOOPOO" challenge parameters and what-not p-values yada yada.

http://youtu.be/6sGmYoiDVJI?t=1:08:50m
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April 2nd, 2013 at 10:22:48 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

http://youtu.be/6sGmYoiDVJI?t=8m

Things got rolling alright about 8 minutes in, so the link just starts you off there, but if you want to watch the rough start you can.

I did manage to get all 200 rolls in about an hour and fifteen minutes.

I had a few technical difficulties, but it went alright. Thanks for watching.

Hopefully future 200 roll sessions I can pick into an hour.

If you start watching here this is where I do an analysis on the results and compare to the "SOOPOO" challenge parameters and what-not p-values yada yada.

http://youtu.be/6sGmYoiDVJI?t=1:08:50m



Well it looks like I figured out how to post on the show. Pretty choppy connection on my end. I was glad to see a new episode tonight, I've been
checking occasionally and seeing reruns of "the avenger".
It's got to be hard to do everything including stick.
I barely caught the part about the go-pro. Sounded like it took a dump?
I posted to TheWolf713 on the shoot the captain thread and it looks like he's up to the "soopoo" challenge if invited.
Hope the show grows. There just isn't enough "crap" on tv. [pun intended}
Thanks for putting on the show Ahigh
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April 2nd, 2013 at 11:06:51 PM permalink
1.4% Are you kidding? any professional gambler Would be absolutely drooling if they could get that type of edge consistently I know 15 people that will drop by your house with 300k and put you on the tables with a free roll. Just bring proof. proof = go to casinos film your play and make real money at just 1.3 % over 500 hrs of play. You will be Extremely rich. Not to mention all the side bets you will win.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 3rd, 2013 at 7:36:16 AM permalink
Ahigh

Good show for everybody to see, at one point everybody could see how superstitions are born. That was when you said something about the seven, then rolled I think it was 4 of them after that.
I made a joke about it, when it happened.

That is the kind of thing you will see on a craps table when playing, now we all should know it had nothing to do with you saying seven, but things like that happen, just like when you have a stick change. Nobody ever stops to think that 20 min's just went by and the roll has been going on for 20 min's now. Nobody rolls forever!

I see you have a big fan with petroglyph, which is a good thing for him, he can see firsthand what can happen on a craps table when you are playing and how important it is to have a bankroll when playing craps. The thing that I would like to stress is DI's don't win every time they go into a casino, they can have strings of 7's wiping out their bankroll. They damn sure don't do the things that our fiction writers would like everybody to believe!

Remember it's a little grandmother, that is a random roller,.. that holds the record for the longest roll in craps, not some guy that was made up to sell books!

Thanks for putting on the show Ahigh!
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...! You do good brada ..! superrick Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction http://procraps4u2.myfanforum.org/index.php ...
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April 3rd, 2013 at 9:38:10 AM permalink
Thanks for the feedback. I was pretty happy with the performance and it was in line with my expected theoretical bias which was also nice.

I rolled a lot of short rolls, though. So it seemed a little bit like a demonstration of the power of coming up short more than anything.
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April 4th, 2013 at 3:39:23 PM permalink
Yep. Something fun about watching dice roll on a Craps table.
Add one more to your list of happy viewers.

A suggestion to add some flavor to your show
how about a few random rollers on video.
They could be over 21.
females in bikinis?? maybe too much flavor.

How about the Wizard as one random roller??
IF you have a few kids at home they can be the rollers too.
Say 2 kids rolling 100 rolls each.
They can take turns.

They have to know that they are helping in a very important experiment.
They do not need to know how to play Craps.
Of course they would learn how to play very quickly.

keep it simple and fun for them.
You could easily treat them for their help.

We can all look for patterns in their random rolls.
Like a 7 SRR
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April 9th, 2013 at 11:40:09 AM permalink
We will be having a show tonight at 7:30pm. Tupp may be able to come and help me out. With help from Tupp, we might have a great show. If Tupp doesn't show up, I may just record rolls again, but I will make tonight's show entertaining, I promise!
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April 9th, 2013 at 11:56:07 AM permalink
Cool
Did you notice that this thread has over eighteen thousand views?
That's an accomplishment right there.
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April 9th, 2013 at 12:03:48 PM permalink
Well, it's only thanks to those who have taken an interest. The show is designed to be interactive, so I will be reading this thread before the show while deciding what to do on the show. I want to do something besides record rolls, and I may move a recording session type show to another date and time as not everybody is interested in just watching me throw the dice, I assume.

If I throw the dice tonight, I would like to chart out hard 8 parlay bets and try to hit another 3 hard 8's with no easy live.

Someone brought up the idea that I might be throwing my money away betting the hardways which have a 2.78% edge per roll instead of 0.5%.

In theory, with my throw, I have the edge on the hard 8 bet. Even over the course of 3000 throws. Of course that is just theory, but a live performance would put me on the spot to demonstrate if the theory might mean something or not.
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April 9th, 2013 at 12:59:32 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Cool
Did you notice that this thread has over eighteen thousand views?
That's an accomplishment right there.

Fighting BS one post at a time!
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April 9th, 2013 at 1:39:41 PM permalink
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You know...whatever people may think of Ahigh (I have nothing against him myself), you've got to admit that the man sure knows how to get a thread going. :)



I would say that mathmatically this is statisical evidence of thread influencing
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April 9th, 2013 at 2:19:45 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

I would say that mathmatically this is statisical evidence of thread influencing

Fighting BS one post at a time!
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April 9th, 2013 at 2:42:44 PM permalink
At lunch today (Silverton), after not betting hardways for a long time, I bet hardways a dollar each.

I then rolled hard 4 hard 4 hard 10 (parlayed each one)

Stick change .. he called the six-one (Joe).

I thought maybe I was getting too greedy. So I went for it again, I hit hard ten back-to-back on the parlay, and went parlay, hit it at 8 dollars and went to 10. Hit it at 10 dollars and went to 20 (four times with no easy).

But I hit hard four back-to-back then a hard ten right after that.

Then a few short rolls later I hit hard ten back-to-back .. followed by two more hard tens with no easy. There was an easy ten after that, and another hard ten too.

So total tens was 6, and 5 of the 6 were hard. The next to the last one was easy.

There was a disagreement about the pay and I had to give back $20, and it stopped my whole flow, and I took everything down at that point.

I made a big noise to the dealers and the boxman at the time (Patrick was dealing to on SR1 me, Joe was on 1st base, and Tim was on Stick, and the I forgot the boxman's name, but I can put that up later.)

The point of this message was that I hoped to demonstrate my ability to do back-to-back hardways on the show tonight, and I did it in the casino this afternoon.

I don't know if that would be interesting or not, but if it is and there are no other ideas I could try it on the show and have that stated as the goal to hit hardway parlays.

I had also been doing this lately at the California Club. Two people from the Axis website were witness to my hitting just as many hard tens in as few rolls last week.

Also the dealer named "Dee" at the California club is another witness of my hitting all those hard tens.

It's certainly something that takes a lot of luck to do this, no doubt. But it might be something to look into further if I state up front my goals and then am able to achieve them on film on the show.

The only problem is that it could be boring especially if I fail, but in the casino today at least I was able to hit them .. so wanted to get feedback.

I could also just talk and show some other stuff or do slow motion. Give me some feedback guys...
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April 9th, 2013 at 3:13:08 PM permalink
Sounds like a lot of fun at the Silverton.

I'd like to see the gopro demonstrated if you can.
The slomo capability of it and also depth of field in focus.
I know you need gigawatts of lumen's, that's just the way it is.

I hope you get some help tonight, You have been needing
a good stick man for awhile also.
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April 9th, 2013 at 4:19:33 PM permalink
Well the AHIGH CHALLENGE thread got locked. DOH!

If anyone wants to continue that conversation, maybe that could be the topic of today's show.

SOOPOO has become unusually quiet lately. Piped in real quick to say "I still don't believe it."

But I am wondering why his stance has continued to be unwavering.
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April 9th, 2013 at 4:31:16 PM permalink
Ahigh I will believe you if:

1. You define what you mean by a controlled throw.
2. You show me that you can actually make a controlled throw.

Not only will I say I believe you, but I will put you on my TV show.

But understand this: I do not consider what otherwise appears to be a "random throw" to be a "controlled throw." You will have to show me that your throws are in fact "controlled."

The end result means nothing because even random shooters get good results.
An SRR means nothing, because even random shooters can have good results.
The test is the "control" of the "throw."

Prove your control and you are the king.
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April 9th, 2013 at 4:45:05 PM permalink
Whoa...did a
Fighting BS one post at a time!
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April 9th, 2013 at 4:57:37 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Well the AHIGH CHALLENGE thread got locked. DOH!

If anyone wants to continue that conversation, maybe that could be the topic of today's show.

SOOPOO has become unusually quiet lately. Piped in real quick to say "I still don't believe it."

But I am wondering why his stance has continued to be unwavering.



I saw my name got thrown in there. I probably wouldn’t know a controlled throw if it landed in my jock, but since boymimbo seems to have taken the role of arbiter, I’d agree to offer my services of forwarding integritous results, as well as keeping the rolls legal per casino rules.

But even if you could overcome the unlikely chance of convincing SOOPOO to train in something he believes impossible, Seneca Niagara is getting Tiles and I doubt you’ll be able to pull him off that table long enough for a contest =D
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April 9th, 2013 at 5:10:31 PM permalink
I only want SOOPOO to train if he gets to the point where he accepts that it's possible. I only assume that his lack of belief that a controlled shot is possible is for lack of evidence proving that it is possible. IE: I don't think his lack of belief is a result of lack of intelligence. Just lack of data proving it.

I do know he believes in being able to develop a controlled shot for 3-pointers in basketball.

He will chime in. Hopefully he can discuss and/or commit to what he will do if, to the Wizard's satisfaction, dice control is proven to be possible with evidence provided by live performances from people who are believed to be able to perform a controlled shot.
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April 9th, 2013 at 5:12:14 PM permalink
I think getting him away from Tiles is the harder part of this equation lol
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April 9th, 2013 at 7:53:20 PM permalink
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April 9th, 2013 at 8:04:15 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

I only want SOOPOO to train if he gets to the point where he accepts that it's possible. I only assume that his lack of belief that a controlled shot is possible is for lack of evidence proving that it is possible. IE: I don't think his lack of belief is a result of lack of intelligence.



Gee, you really DON'T play well with others, do you?

Accusing all who don't hold your opinion as having a "lack of intelligence" is not terribly intelligent, is it?
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April 9th, 2013 at 8:27:58 PM permalink
I was not able to watch the broadcast past about 10 minutes because it kept disconnecting. What I did see in the first 10 minutes is that all rolls looked random to me. Even when you said you felt good, the dice would hit the back wall and then each roll 3 or 4 times in different patterns. You had a hard way set "10", yet rolled no hard 10's. As a matter of fact I think you only rolled one hard number in total, which I think was a hard 4.

I really tried to see what skills you had. I took time out of my night to watch with an open mind. To me there was absolutely no control.

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April 9th, 2013 at 8:30:38 PM permalink
Zcore13 don't tell Ahigh that. He will tell you that you have a case of mistaken dice identity.

By the way, I watched the first few minutes too, and I must admit that Ahigh looks an awful like that guy who he said was at my table at Caesars taking notes on my rolls.
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April 9th, 2013 at 8:47:59 PM permalink
"I suck. I'm a random shooter." -- Ahigh April 9, 2013 8:45-PM on the "Ahigh Show."

"Ahigh it happens to all DI's and that is the problem unless you are reading fiction!" -- SuperRick April 9, 2013 on the comments section of the "Ahigh Show."

"So, what else is new?" -- Alan Mendelson talking to himself while watching the "Ahigh Show."
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April 9th, 2013 at 9:53:26 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

By the way, I watched the first few minutes too, and I must admit that Ahigh looks an awful like that guy who he said was at my table at Caesars taking notes on my rolls.



I have figured it out: you're both right.

It LOOKED like Ahigh, but it really wasn't him.

It was Harley, decked out in his custom made Ahigh face mask.
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April 9th, 2013 at 11:24:44 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I have figured it out: you're both right.

It LOOKED like Ahigh, but it really wasn't him.

It was Harley, decked out in his custom made Ahigh face mask.



THAT'S IT. EUREKA. YOU FOUND THE ANSWER!!

And MrV to think that all those years we did battle on that other newsgroup. Little did I know you could finally figure it all out.
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April 10th, 2013 at 2:10:24 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Zcore13 don't tell Ahigh that. He will tell you that you have a case of mistaken dice identity.

By the way, I watched the first few minutes too, and I must admit that Ahigh looks an awful like that guy who he said was at my table at Caesars taking notes on my rolls.



Alan, if you could just admit that you were wrong and apologize, you might not further embarrass yourself over this issue.

I'm sorry you were confused by this incident.

I'm sorry it happened like this.

But I do not apologize for your continuing to make jokes about your inability to apologize for calling me a liar, and continuing to make vague claims that who you saw writing down your rolls was me.

I will say it again, it was not me. If you feel confident that it was me writing down those rolls, let's make a bet that it was not me. I will bet you $10,000 that it was no me writing down those rolls on that day. If I can prove that it was not me, you pay me $10,000. If you can prove that it was me, I will pay you $10,000.

I know the truth and you don't. You are just guessing.

So unless you want to do a handshake on this bet, SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY ABOUT IT.

If I win this bet, I will gladly donate all $10,000 to alz.org to help the world be a better place.

I have no risk with this bet as there is absolutely no evidence other than your flimsy claims that it was me.

There is very likely surveillance video that can be obtained to get this money for alz.org if you want to take the bet.

I suggest that you just shut the hell up about it. Because you are wrong whether you want to admit it or not.

Not my problem if you can't face reality, whether it's about dice control or otherwise. Not my problem.

I'm really tired of your accusing me of lying about this. I also have three witnesses who were there and know who was writing down those rolls even without camera evidence. I have no idea if that's sufficient proof, but even without talking to those folks, they know what happened, and I and Harley know who they are and where they live and that they would gladly tell the truth about what happened that day to take $10,000 from you and give it to alz.org.

MMMMMkay?
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April 10th, 2013 at 2:19:14 AM permalink
Total rolls: 200
1) 55 13.75% - 16.67 = (-2.92)------------------------------------------ 1
2) 70 17.50% - 16.67 = (+0.83)----------------------------------------------------- 2
3) 63 15.75% - 16.67 = (-0.92)------------------------------------------------ 3
4) 73 18.25% - 16.67 = (+1.58)------------------------------------------------------- 4
5) 71 17.75% - 16.67 = (+1.08)------------------------------------------------------ 5
6) 68 17.00% - 16.67 = (+0.33)--------------------------------------------------- 6
X**2: 3.32 p: 0.65078
fw 55,70,63,73,71,68 55,70,63,73,71,68

11: -------- 2 (4)
21: -------- 3 (8)
22: ------------ 4 (6)
31: ------- 4 (7)
32: ------------ 5 (12)
41: ---------- 5 (10)
33: ------ 6 (3)
42: ------------- 6 (13)
51: ----------- 6 (11)
61: ----------- 7 (11)
52: ------------- 7 (13)
43: ---------------- 7 (16)
53: -------- 8 (8)
44: -------------- 8 (7)
62: ------------ 8 (12)
63: -------------- 9 (14)
54: ----------- 9 (11)
55: ---------------- 10 (8)
64: --------- 10 (9)
65: ------------ 11 (12)
66: ---------- 12 (5)
X**2: 10.69 p: 0.95387

2) 4 2.00% - 2.78% = -0.78% (-1.56)------- 2
3) 8 4.00% - 5.56% = -1.56% (-3.11)------------ 3
4) 13 6.50% - 8.33% = -1.83% (-3.67)-------------------- 4
5) 22 11.00% - 11.11% = -0.11% (-0.22)--------------------------------- 5
6) 27 13.50% - 13.89% = -0.39% (-0.78)----------------------------------------- 6
7) 40 20.00% - 16.67% = 3.33% (+6.67)------------------------------------------------------------- 7
8) 27 13.50% - 13.89% = -0.39% (-0.78)----------------------------------------- 8
9) 25 12.50% - 11.11% = 1.39% (+2.78)-------------------------------------- 9
10) 17 8.50% - 8.33% = 0.17% (+0.33)--------------------------10
11) 12 6.00% - 5.56% = 0.44% (+0.89)-------------------11
12) 5 2.50% - 2.78% = -0.28% (-0.56)--------12
X**2: 3.97 p: 0.94856

4:7 ratio is 32.500% - 50.000% = -17.500% (-35.00% diff)
5:7 ratio is 55.000% - 66.667% = -11.667% (-17.50% diff)
6:7 ratio is 67.500% - 83.333% = -15.833% (-19.00% diff)
8:7 ratio is 67.500% - 83.333% = -15.833% (-19.00% diff)
9:7 ratio is 62.500% - 66.667% = -4.167% (-6.25% diff)
10:7 ratio is 42.500% - 50.000% = -7.500% (-15.00% diff)
X**2: 2.37 p: 0.88321

Observed: 40.0 sevens - 160.0 non sevens RSR 5.0000
Expected: 33.3 sevens - 166.7 non sevens RSR 6.0000
X**2: 1.60 p: 0.20590

Seven outs 29 (72.50%) - Seven winners 11 (27.50%)
Pairs 33 16.50% - 16.67% = -0.17% (-0.33 rolls)
Hards 24 12.00% - 11.11% = 0.89% (+1.78 rolls)
HiLos 9 4.50% - 5.56% = -1.06% (-2.11 rolls)
H2 4/0 ( 2.00% - 2.78% = -1.56)
H4 6/3 ( 3.00% - 2.78% = +0.44)
H6 3/2 ( 1.50% - 2.78% = -2.56)
H8 7/1 ( 3.50% - 2.78% = +1.44)
H10 8/5 ( 4.00% - 2.78% = +2.44)
H12 5/0 ( 2.50% - 2.78% = -0.56)
EZ: 167 (83.50% - 83.33% = +0.33)
X**2: 3.15 p: 0.78928



Start watching at 52 minutes in to see hard ten 6-3 nine, hard ten, hard ten.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/31228425

This is the point of this show was to try to roll hard tens and get the slow motion and then talk about the possibility of even one of these throws not being random.

I know a lot of people don't have the capacity to understand what my goals were for this show, but this was successful in terms of trying to nail down a specific single roll that might not be random to talk in more detail about the one roll.

Three hard tens in four rolls qualifies for the very specific thing that I was trying to do. Get at least one hard ten that doesn't look random.

I will look for the slow motion files and share those soon, maybe tomorrow since it's already 2:30 am here.
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April 10th, 2013 at 2:43:33 AM permalink
Now I will preface this with this is not entirely fair, but I am isolated the moments when I was accomplishing the roll that was bringing out the hard ten.

The whole goal of this session was to get those hard tens to come out one after another like they were in the casino.

I posted about this before the show. I explained this to Tupp that I was doing this in this casino.

55`63`55`55`63`41`31`11`32`42`64`22`22`63`61`54
12`41`42`31`54`42`11`65`41`54`52`23`11`64`64`65`66`62`44`65`52`53`61`12`52`12`54`55`66`32
62`64`32`65`62`32`43`52`43`54`52`32`43`43`31`65`55`62`43`31`63`42`43`53`32`61`62`52`62`44
65`55`43`55`65`63`64`55

1) 19 11.31% - 16.67 = (-5.36)---------------------------------- 1
2) 30 17.86% - 16.67 = (+1.19)------------------------------------------------------ 2
3) 25 14.88% - 16.67 = (-1.79)--------------------------------------------- 3
4) 28 16.67% - 16.67 = (+0.00)--------------------------------------------------- 4
5) 36 21.43% - 16.67 = (+4.76)----------------------------------------------------------------- 5
6) 30 17.86% - 16.67 = (+1.19)------------------------------------------------------ 6
X**2: 5.79 p: 0.32763
fw 19,30,25,28,36,30 19,30,25,28,36,30

11: ------ 2 (3)
21: --- 3 (3)
22: ---- 4 (2)
31: ---- 4 (4)
32: ------- 5 (7)
41: --- 5 (3)
33: 6 (0)
42: ---- 6 (4)
51: 6 (0)
61: --- 7 (3)
52: ------ 7 (6)
43: ------- 7 (7)
53: -- 8 (2)
44: ---- 8 (2)
62: ------ 8 (6)
63: ----- 9 (5)
54: ----- 9 (5)
55: ---------------- 10 (8)
64: ----- 10 (5)
65: ------- 11 (7)
66: ---- 12 (2)
X**2: 28.93 p: 0.08918

2) 3 3.57% - 2.78% = 0.79% (+0.67)--- 2
3) 3 3.57% - 5.56% = -1.98% (-1.67)--- 3
4) 6 7.14% - 8.33% = -1.19% (-1.00)------ 4
5) 10 11.90% - 11.11% = 0.79% (+0.67)---------- 5
6) 4 4.76% - 13.89% = -9.13% (-7.67)---- 6
7) 16 19.05% - 16.67% = 2.38% (+2.00)---------------- 7
8) 10 11.90% - 13.89% = -1.98% (-1.67)---------- 8
9) 10 11.90% - 11.11% = 0.79% (+0.67)---------- 9
10) 13 15.48% - 8.33% = 7.14% (+6.00)-------------10
11) 7 8.33% - 5.56% = 2.78% (+2.33)-------11
12) 2 2.38% - 2.78% = -0.40% (-0.33)--12
X**2: 12.94 p: 0.22688

4:7 ratio is 37.500% - 50.000% = -12.500% (-25.00% diff)
5:7 ratio is 62.500% - 66.667% = -4.167% (-6.25% diff)
6:7 ratio is 25.000% - 83.333% = -58.333% (-70.00% diff)
8:7 ratio is 62.500% - 83.333% = -20.833% (-25.00% diff)
9:7 ratio is 62.500% - 66.667% = -4.167% (-6.25% diff)
10:7 ratio is 81.250% - 50.000% = +31.250% (+62.50% diff)
X**2: 11.09 p: 0.08573

Observed: 16.0 sevens - 68.0 non sevens RSR 5.2500
Expected: 14.0 sevens - 70.0 non sevens RSR 6.0000
X**2: 0.34 p: 0.55818

Seven outs 12 (75.00%) - Seven winners 4 (25.00%)
Pairs 17 20.24% - 16.67% = 3.57% (+3.00 rolls)
Hards 12 14.29% - 11.11% = 3.17% (+2.67 rolls)
HiLos 5 5.95% - 5.56% = 0.40% (+0.33 rolls)
H2 3/0 ( 3.57% - 2.78% = +0.67)
H4 2/1 ( 2.38% - 2.78% = -0.33)
H6 0/0 ( 0.00% - 2.78% = -2.33)
H8 2/0 ( 2.38% - 2.78% = -0.33)
H10 8/5 ( 9.52% - 2.78% = +5.67)
H12 2/0 ( 2.38% - 2.78% = -0.33)
EZ: 67 (79.76% - 83.33% = -3.00)
X**2: 16.56 p: 0.01106

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April 10th, 2013 at 2:51:01 AM permalink
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At lunch today (Silverton), after not betting hardways for a long time, I bet hardways a dollar each.

I then rolled hard 4 hard 4 hard 10 (parlayed each one)

Stick change .. he called the six-one (Joe).

I thought maybe I was getting too greedy. So I went for it again, I hit hard ten back-to-back on the parlay, and went parlay, hit it at 8 dollars and went to 10. Hit it at 10 dollars and went to 20 (four times with no easy).

But I hit hard four back-to-back then a hard ten right after that.

Then a few short rolls later I hit hard ten back-to-back .. followed by two more hard tens with no easy. There was an easy ten after that, and another hard ten too.

So total tens was 6, and 5 of the 6 were hard. The next to the last one was easy.

There was a disagreement about the pay and I had to give back $20, and it stopped my whole flow, and I took everything down at that point.

I made a big noise to the dealers and the boxman at the time (Patrick was dealing to on SR1 me, Joe was on 1st base, and Tim was on Stick, and the I forgot the boxman's name, but I can put that up later.)

The point of this message was that I hoped to demonstrate my ability to do back-to-back hardways on the show tonight, and I did it in the casino this afternoon.

I don't know if that would be interesting or not, but if it is and there are no other ideas I could try it on the show and have that stated as the goal to hit hardway parlays.

I had also been doing this lately at the California Club. Two people from the Axis website were witness to my hitting just as many hard tens in as few rolls last week.

Also the dealer named "Dee" at the California club is another witness of my hitting all those hard tens.

It's certainly something that takes a lot of luck to do this, no doubt. But it might be something to look into further if I state up front my goals and then am able to achieve them on film on the show.

The only problem is that it could be boring especially if I fail, but in the casino today at least I was able to hit them .. so wanted to get feedback.

I could also just talk and show some other stuff or do slow motion. Give me some feedback guys...



I just wanted to remind everyone that my goals were very specifically to get lots of hard tens and back to back hard tens and hard fours like I was getting in the casino. My goal was to throw the same way I was throwing to accomplish this in the casino and IF I could do it, isolate video for these rolls to see if there was any evidence from back-to-back hard tens or hard fours of something other than totally random rolls.

There is still a lot of work to do, and as I explained to Tupp on the way my house that it might be a good idea not to record these rolls into my standard rolls as the way I was getting these hard tens in the casino today was not my normal throw.

But it is only fair to do that even though I contemplated not doing it, I do want it to be known that this was not the exact same throw I used for the previous 3000 rolls. I was specifically trying to recreate the throw that was getting hard tens and it took a while. When I was doing that throw, I was getting more sevens, even at the casino.

But again to go back to the goal, the goal isn't even to prove that I can get back-to-back hard tens and back-to-back hard fours which I did both at the Silverton Casino this afternoon and on the show after deliberate specification that this was my goal.

I will leave it to the math guys to say how likely it is to do this. But I felt like I accomplished my goals.

The next part is a lot of work .. and that is to go over all these slow motion videos that Tupp made for me so I can pick over the details of what the dice were doing during those hardways that came back to back. As I said in the video, we were "fishing" for evidence of non-randomness.

I told Tupp along the way what the goals were and he may share more of that, but this .. even though we had tons of sevens, the primary goal was to get those back-to-back hard fours and hard tens that I was getting in the casino. And that was a big success from my view.
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April 10th, 2013 at 3:00:50 AM permalink
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Alan, if you could just admit that you were wrong and apologize, you might not further embarrass yourself over this issue.



Gee Ahigh... all I said was that you looked very much like the guy who was standing at my table at Caesars who was recording my rolls and charting the table. Sorry you took offense.

I concede and I'm sorry... you were not the guy. But it was someone who looked a lot like you.

I really wish you had come over to me when you were also in the craps pit. Then I wouldn't have made this mistake of thinking the guy I saw on the Ahigh show tonight was the same guy with the same build and the same posture and the same coloring and complexion and the same facial features as the guy standing at my table at Caesars.

It's just a funny coincidence. Tonight was the first time I ever got a good look at you on your TV show. You're a good looking guy. And your buddy is also a good looking guy.

By the way, how tall are you?

Carry on.

Oh, and take my advice from the show... separate your stats so that you show those that are only from what you call a "controlled throw." Otherwise you are not being fair to yourself.
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April 10th, 2013 at 4:08:14 AM permalink
Ahigh... get real. Your performance on Tuesday night was a disaster. It doesn't matter that you threw a few back to back hard 4s and hard 10s in the course of 200 rolls. You had too many 7s and you admitted your throws showed no control. In fact, you hit your hardways on random throws.

What you accomplished could have been done by any random shooter.

But keep trying. It doesn't hurt. And with enough practice you might get it right.

And how tall are you?
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April 10th, 2013 at 4:28:52 AM permalink
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Ahigh... get real. Your performance on Tuesday night was a disaster. It doesn't matter that you threw a few back to back hard 4s and hard 10s in the course of 200 rolls. You had too many 7s and you admitted your throws showed no control. In fact, you hit your hardways on random throws.

What you accomplished could have been done by any random shooter.

But keep trying. It doesn't hurt. And with enough practice you might get it right.

And how tall are you?



Let's isolate your claims:

Claim 1: "Your performance on Tuesday night was a disaster."

False. I rolled more than the expected number of sevens. Other than this, I set out to do exactly what I intended to do which was to roll some hardways to get onto slow motion and analyze a specific shot. I stated this goal very clearly WHILE I was accomplishing a very good ratio of sevens. IE: I stated very clearly that I was trying to isolate the singular slow motion evidence that control was possible.

You may have perceived it as a disaster, but if you did, that is due to a lack of understanding for what I intended to accomplish. Simply your perception.

I did record the rolls and I will have to live with having a lot of sevens in that performance for my lifetime of throws. It lowered my SRR to 6.37 from 6.45. That's bad, but not a disaster from my viewpoint. I think this is the first 200 roll session where I have had this high of a ratio of sevens. It does happen.

The reality is, and maybe this is something that you have a difficulty in understanding, I can roll 200 rolls with fewer than 28 sevens and I very likely will in the near future.

I'm not worried about it. I had a goal and I accomplished the goal.

Claim 2: "What I did could have been accomplished by a random shooter."

True! Given than there are so many random shooters shooting all the time, eventually one of them will roll many more hardways back to back than this session where I intentionally set out to do this. The 9 hardways in 10 throws can also be accomplished by a random shooter. I think the math said that it will happen about 1 in 44 million tries! So you are right about this one! Not bad.

Claim 3: "Keep trying. It doesn't hurt."

When I get feedback like this from you, frankly, it does hurt. I don't know if you've stopped to think about it, but all I get out of this is the feedback from my peers. I don't know if I consider you so much a peer as just as a PITA. But when I get all this feedback from you, such as your characterization of what I did as a "disaster" it makes me think that it's possible that everyone who is watching this show feels the same way as you do about it. I mean I actually know there are people on the other end of the fence who believe all kinds of bullshit and would go overboard into thinking the whole thing is much simpler rather than your thoughts which is "you got lucky that you hit hard tens back to back and hard fours back to back in 200 rolls."

I'm sure the math guys will come in and say what are the chances I could post that I did this in the casino and then did it again on my rolls on the show later than night after making that my objective. I absolutely don't consider you an authority on stating how well I performed though. I think you are in a bucket I would consider to be a hater, frankly. You're just shy of being blocked again.

As far as suggestions, I suggest you stop hatin'. Every time I try to make some movement and forward progress, I notice my coattail is heavy and when I turn around to look, there you are getting a free ride.

I'm the one doing the work. Well tonight it was me and Tupp anyway. I'm pretty sure even if I said come on over and be on the show, you'd pull an excuse for why you couldn't make it anyway since u so m po tint.

SO why don't you give it a rest? Oh, that's right. You haven't lifted a finger yet.
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April 10th, 2013 at 4:47:20 AM permalink
I agree with you Ahigh, your numbers and analysis speak for themselves. It says everything we need to know.
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April 10th, 2013 at 5:21:23 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Let's isolate your claims:

Claim 1: "Your performance on Tuesday night was a disaster."

False. I rolled more than the expected number of sevens. Other than this, I set out to do exactly what I intended to do which was to roll some hardways to get onto slow motion and analyze a specific shot. I stated this goal very clearly WHILE I was accomplishing a very good ratio of sevens. IE: I stated very clearly that I was trying to isolate the singular slow motion evidence that control was possible.

You may have perceived it as a disaster, but if you did, that is due to a lack of understanding for what I intended to accomplish. Simply your perception.



I'm wrong again. My perception is off once more. You're right. The operation was a success even though the patient died.
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April 10th, 2013 at 5:24:25 AM permalink
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I'm pretty sure even if I said come on over and be on the show, you'd pull an excuse for why you couldn't make it anyway since u so m po tint.



I offered to drive up to be on your show last night so I could shoot dice from a cup. You said "no."

How tall are you?
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April 10th, 2013 at 10:13:35 AM permalink
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I offered to drive up to be on your show last night so I could shoot dice from a cup. You said "no."

How tall are you?



If you wanted to actually be helpful instead of how you are in fact being, I wouldn't have minded.

How about you do a show too? If you're just going to throw dice out of a cup, why not just buy a yahtzee game to prove your point and throw them on your carpet?

Why do you keep asking how tall I am? I'm 5'11" 1/2. Just shy of 6'.

I don't think you need me to prove any point you want to prove.

I've already stated the outcomes look random to me. Other people have stated the same thing.

And I think he was being sarcastic, but it is in fact the data that is important.

I had some terrible shots in there and I was terribly unlucky. But I was lucky before and I shot better before. I'm still alright on the long haul.

But if I were gambling big money on Wizard of Odds with these rolls, it still would have been about a push on either the do or the don't side.

The RSR is just the SOOPOO challenge numbers, and I mentioned this to Tupp on the way in but I wasn't initially even intending to record rolls because I wanted to do something different and that was to try to hit as many hard tens in as few rolls as possible and get it on film and try to isolate one of those shots to see if it looked random or not.

I suppose at this point without anyone saying, "I understand what you were trying to do" nobody even has gotten that far.

I am pretty sure Tupp understood it.

Either way, if everyone wants to come to the conclusion that everything is just random, that's actually great for me too.
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April 10th, 2013 at 11:30:04 AM permalink
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I agree with you Ahigh, your numbers and analysis speak for themselves. It says everything we need to know.



I have read this and re-read this, and while I agree with what you're saying, I don't ever recall you saying anything in support of the work that I am doing.

Typically, it's 7 craps who just looks at the data and doesn't get into personal issues like "how tall are you" and what not like Alan does.

But even if you're saying the data is indicating everything is random, and even if you are being sarcastic, thanks for what you've said.

All I want to do is talk about the data not about personal stuff and insults and what not.
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April 10th, 2013 at 11:31:54 AM permalink
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I offered to drive up to be on your show last night so I could shoot dice from a cup. You said "no."

How tall are you?



I'll tell ya what, how about you go over to Harley's house, and I can bring my cameras and equipment and you and Harley can do a show from his house without me?

I think the problem that you have is really with Harley and I'm just in the middle between you two because Harley got removed, and I'm the closest thing to Harley and you just wish I were him so you would have a whipping boy.
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April 10th, 2013 at 11:35:59 AM permalink
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If you wanted to actually be helpful instead of how you are in fact being, I wouldn't have minded.

How about you do a show too? If you're just going to throw dice out of a cup, why not just buy a yahtzee game to prove your point and throw them on your carpet?

Why do you keep asking how tall I am? I'm 5'11" 1/2. Just shy of 6'.



Actually Ahigh, if you weren't so stubborn you would realize that having a "control" with throwing dice from a cup would be helpful. How can you test "control" or "influencing" without having a test control such as throwing dice from a cup or using some sort of random throw to compare your results to. Heck, this goes back to 7th grade science class.

Gee... your buddy who was at my table was also about six feet tall. He was definitely taller than I am, and I'm 5'10".

Why don't I put this on my TV show? Because I have nothing to prove. I did extensive videos with Rob Singer to give him a chance to prove his "different way" of playing video poker but I did it only because he was a published author and newspaper columnist with reported wins of nearly a million dollars.

If you can show me that you really can control the dice I will put you on TV too. But you have to show me control. I don't see it. I see your results, but as I've said a hundred times now, random shooters can have good results too. Even your hardways last night came from what you called random shots.

I am really interested in Frank's shooting. I haven't been at a table with him. But I have watched Heavy and Sharpshooter and others throw the dice. You don't come close to showing control. I'm sorry but that's reality.

Would you like to create a poll on this website and ask the people here if you have control? Why don't you? Unfortunately I don't know if a poll can be added to this thread. But perhaps it's time to put this claim of yours up to a vote:

Does Ahigh really control the dice?? I vote no. I'm sorry I don't see it your way. It's nothing personal. But when the emperor wears no clothes I am going to say so.
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April 10th, 2013 at 11:39:22 AM permalink
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Alan

"Ahigh it happens to all DI's and that is the problem unless you are reading fiction!" -- SuperRick April 9, 2013 on the comments section of the "Ahigh Show."



Alan just in case you haven't noticed, what you read on these DI boards is nothing but BS, I've been saying that all along and all the guys that know me call me a DI. I know the best there are in this country, and always say that they can't do what these fiction writers wants everybody to believe they can do in their master pieces of fiction. We have these guys to blame for all the changes that have happened to the craps tables after they coined the words Dice Controller or what ever you want to call them.

That statement above was make when Ahigh was making a bunch of seven they have a habit of showing up in clumps, but probably just like everybody else on a craps table you would never notice that. Nothing is ever due on a craps table, but yet you hear players saying that a number is due. So here you have a shooter that hasn't made any sevens for a while and all of a sudden you have a clump of them, in your mind were they due? Does this one seven that the shooter throws, just start a clump of them because the shooter is now freaked out that he just made one at the wrong time?

Nobody can do the outlandish things that some of these fiction writers claim to do on the craps tables. Just look at the slow-motion videos of what the dice are doing when they hit the tables. These guys that are writing this fiction will tell their followers not to bet on the so-called random rollers, or they will live in damnation forever and be life time losers, to keep them in check. The reality check is watching the slow-motion videos!

Everybody wants to be a winner when they play anything, so they are sometimes an easy sell on becoming a DI, they sell them their books, their schools and anything else they can, one of them even charges for hook ups after their class is over with, if you don't pay them you can play on the same table with them, way to funny if you ask me!

There is nothing wrong with any class that will teach a shot and also back it up with lessons in good betting skills and that doesn't mean using a $204 across betting strategy, like one of the fiction writers have been pushing for quite some time now. If I owned a school and a board that was for DI's and someone was writing about that betting strategy,.. I would be all over them for pushing a bet that is just plain stupid, where you will get paid $50 if any box number hit. Now if you were a DI, wouldn't it stand to reason that you could take $50 and just bet one number and make more money off that one bet, if you could hit it? You are always looking for your return on investment, so why risk $204 to win $50 when you could do the same thing with a $50 bet and win $70 on the five or nine?

A DI is not a machine and even if they were they couldn't keep hitting the same points every time they throw the dice, I proved that by sliding the dice down a ramp, dropping 4” the rolling I think it was 16” into the back wall.

Even with that said, does it make sense for someone to take a class to teach them to throw the dice, maybe,.. and the reason I'm saying that is, because have you ever watch the different shooters throwing the dice. Some will throw them so hard that they bounce half way back down the table, some throw them half way up the diamonds, one time they are just slinging them as hard as they can and the next time they miss the back wall all together or they will be off the table.

I think that you and a lot of the guys that are making fun of what Ahigh is trying to do is missing out on some very important things that happen when he is putting on one of his show. For one thing you missed out on the fact that we all play craps in the short term, if you walked up to the table and bought in when all his sevens were coming in clumps. You would have been saying just what I hear other players saying about the shooter that is having a bad roll and that is this guy can't shoot for shit.

When on the very next roll he could hit three hard tens without a soft one, then he would have been your hero, if you had any money on that bet! Without editing what Ahigh is showing is how it all depends when you step into the game that never stops in some casinos. The trend of the table could be on a up swing and you win money. You got lucky and hit the table at the right time.

It will be very interesting when Ahigh gets a shot that he think is not random on slow-motion video, so we can all watch what happens, but until that time everybody out there is just looking at random dice when they hit the table, because those dice did not stay on axis, like these fiction writers want everybody to believe, what you are seeing is two dice with only the top numbers you are looking at, to say they stayed on axis,...it didn't happened!!!!!!

The casinos should be laughing their butts off and the fiction writers should be hanging their heads in shame, for all the BS that they write!


Casinos have nothing to worry about when someone is setting the dice, it only adds to their bottom line, sure some of the guys are going to get lucky, but they are just like anybody else on the table when it happens, the variance was in their favor. Personally I would love to be on a table when Ahigh was rolling hardways and he does roll a lot of them, but hate it if I caught it when he was making all those sevens!

We are all waiting to see that perfect roll captured on slow-motion video, maybe that's the reason he has you watching all his shows!
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April 10th, 2013 at 11:39:34 AM permalink
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Gee... your buddy who was at my table was also about six feet tall. He was definitely taller than I am, and I'm 5'10".



I take it you want to take the bet then. AWESOME. Come on down and do the handshake sucker!
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April 10th, 2013 at 11:41:41 AM permalink
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Either way, if everyone wants to come to the conclusion that everything is just random, that's actually great for me too.



LOL

Told ya so.
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April 10th, 2013 at 11:44:01 AM permalink
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I am really interested in Frank's shooting. I haven't been at a table with him. But I have watched Heavy and Sharpshooter and others throw the dice. You don't come close to showing control. I'm sorry but that's reality.



And you are no Tom Cruise, TV boy. And I'm sorry but that is reality as well.
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April 10th, 2013 at 11:46:50 AM permalink
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Actually Ahigh, if you weren't so stubborn you would realize that having a "control" with throwing dice from a cup would be helpful. How can you test "control" or "influencing" without having a test control such as throwing dice from a cup or using some sort of random throw to compare your results to. Heck, this goes back to 7th grade science class.

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Alan, don't interject science and the scientific method into the discussion, you'll lose him for sure.

Just keep pummeling him with the "WTF,dude" posts.

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