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AlanMendelson
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January 20th, 2012 at 12:36:26 AM permalink
About two years ago I was at the Hacienda on a very slow morning and there was one dealer at the craps table and the table was cut in half with a board that went across the table on the far side of where a stickman would stand.

the board was covered with the usual alligator bumps, but it was straight across -- no curve -- which made me think this was the perfect condition for anyone trying to influence the dice: short table, straight back wall, and no requirement that you must shoot from the far end.

I asked the dealer if some DIs have tried this table and she said the low bet limits seemed to keep them away. $1 minimum and I think the max was $500.
DJTeddyBear
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January 20th, 2012 at 4:25:47 AM permalink
Yes.

I was there in October. I wrote about that board cutting the craps table in half in my Vegas Trip Log.

Here's the Hacienda part:
Quote: My Trip Log

On the way to the dam I noticed the electric sign out front of the Hacienda indicated Nathan's Hot Dogs for $1.99. That's about where my budget is, so on my way back, I went in, directly to the snack bar and got one. The dog was absolutely NOT a Nathan's Hot Dot. Hell, I don't think it was a hot dog! More like a bad knockwurst, warming up in one of those dog rollers you see at truck stops.

They had one pit, about 7 tables. The sign out front also indicated $1 craps and $2 BJ. Some BJ tables had printing indicating 3:2, but don't know if those were the $2 tables since they were all closed. The $1 craps was half open. I.E. There was one dealer working the left side of the table, with a piece of wood covered with pyramids to the right of the prop bets. As luck would have it, I got a spot in the stickman's area, with my chips on the very end of the railing on the left side. It was the only spot left.

When the dice came to me, I was shocked to see just how short my dice throws were. It might have been a dice-setter's dream!

While I was there, another dealer came by, was sitting on a chair in the right side dealer's position, talking to the working dealer. He was acting like he was on break. While he was there, 4 or 5 girls came up and wanted to play. But because the table was only half open, there was no room. You'd think that they'd remove that damn wall and open the table, but no.

It WAS $1 minimum, but FULL double odds. At least that's what I think it was. I was able to place $5 odds on a $1 bet of a point of 6, and $10 odds on a $3 bet of a point of 5. They did NOT have 25¢ chips.

There was an obnoxious player betting tall stacks on the field bet. At one point, he lost, and the dealer counted it out. It was more than the $200 table limit, so the dealer returned the excess. I would have expected him to screw the obnoxious player.

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TIMSPEED
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January 20th, 2012 at 7:58:52 AM permalink
It makes controlled shooting EASIER to try to do...however you have to adjust because you REEEEAAALLLY have to have a soft throw, because the dice will want to bounce off that wall like crazy.
I used to play on a table that was REEEALLY deep, and often "tubbed", and it was very good (however this was a long time ago, and it was a $1 game with 3x odds; but they allowed us to go $3 with $10 odds)
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
wrongway
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January 20th, 2012 at 10:03:10 AM permalink
We were there the week between Christmas and New Years and it was still there. The double odds kept us from playing. Also had the worst buffet we have ever been to. It was free that day but they will have to pay us to try it again.
Inevitable7
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February 1st, 2012 at 10:23:00 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Yes.

I was there in October. I wrote about that board cutting the craps table in half in my Vegas Trip Log.

Here's the Hacienda part:

Quote: My Trip Log

On the way to the dam I noticed the electric sign out front of the Hacienda indicated Nathan's Hot Dogs for $1.99. That's about where my budget is, so on my way back, I went in, directly to the snack bar and got one. The dog was absolutely NOT a Nathan's Hot Dot. Hell, I don't think it was a hot dog! More like a bad knockwurst, warming up in one of those dog rollers you see at truck stops.

They had one pit, about 7 tables. The sign out front also indicated $1 craps and $2 BJ. Some BJ tables had printing indicating 3:2, but don't know if those were the $2 tables since they were all closed. The $1 craps was half open. I.E. There was one dealer working the left side of the table, with a piece of wood covered with pyramids to the right of the prop bets. As luck would have it, I got a spot in the stickman's area, with my chips on the very end of the railing on the left side. It was the only spot left.

When the dice came to me, I was shocked to see just how short my dice throws were. It might have been a dice-setter's dream!

While I was there, another dealer came by, was sitting on a chair in the right side dealer's position, talking to the working dealer. He was acting like he was on break. While he was there, 4 or 5 girls came up and wanted to play. But because the table was only half open, there was no room. You'd think that they'd remove that damn wall and open the table, but no.

It WAS $1 minimum, but FULL double odds. At least that's what I think it was. I was able to place $5 odds on a $1 bet of a point of 6, and $10 odds on a $3 bet of a point of 5. They did NOT have 25¢ chips.

There was an obnoxious player betting tall stacks on the field bet. At one point, he lost, and the dealer counted it out. It was more than the $200 table limit, so the dealer returned the excess. I would have expected him to screw the obnoxious player.




On a side note...Yes, the $2 BJ is 3:2.
Ayecarumba
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February 1st, 2012 at 10:29:00 AM permalink
Saw the same set-up at the Avi in "south" Laughlin. One dealer working the table. I stood right next the stick position and only had to toss the dice about twenty-four inches.
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bigfoot66
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February 1st, 2012 at 10:34:52 AM permalink
I saw the same "wall" thing at the Avi in Laughlin. I liked it because the one thing I dont like about craps is that when I shoot the dice I can't see what is rolled over on the other side of the table. At least with the wall I can see how the dice land.
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Ayecarumba
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February 1st, 2012 at 3:34:32 PM permalink
Hey bigfoot66, I wonder if we were there at the same time? I did okay betting the Horn and trying for elevens. The dice were sure jacked up though. Lots of pitted edges.
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