AlanMendelson
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November 2nd, 2011 at 4:11:03 AM permalink
Did Harrahs/Caesars buy the company that created/licensed the fire bet? And are they going to offer it to other casinos or just keep it at their own properties?
Tiltpoul
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November 2nd, 2011 at 4:59:47 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Did Harrahs/Caesars buy the company that created/licensed the fire bet? And are they going to offer it to other casinos or just keep it at their own properties?



I wouldn't be surprised if either of those scenarios happen. They could do like Texas Hold Em Bonus (with the WSOP logo) and allow other casinos to use it. Or they could use it as a marketing tool to advertise the fact they are the only casinos where you will find this bet.
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November 2nd, 2011 at 5:19:11 AM permalink
HopBet, Inc. owns the FireBet. There's nothing on Google news, on HopBet.com web site, nor in the Caesar press release that indicates that Caesars bought them. The FireBet operates at other casinos other than Caesars.
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DJTeddyBear
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November 2nd, 2011 at 5:21:20 AM permalink
I was under the impression that Caesars already has a semi-exclusive deal with the inventor. "Semi" exclusive meaning the inventor could sell it to any casino a minimum distance from a Caesars casino.

In either case, it would not surprise me to learn that Caesars bought the whole company.

For what it's worth, there's no mention of it on their website: www.HopBet.com Then again, there's no mention of Hop Bets either, and with a name like that, you'd think...
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November 2nd, 2011 at 5:26:15 AM permalink
This is a list (from hopbet.com) of casinos offering the FireBet. I don't know if it's current. I don't see a georgraphical distinction in Reno for example.

LasVegas
Rio
Harrahs, Las Vegas
Caesars Palace
Mandalay Bay
Planet Hollywood
Gold Coast
Ballys, Las Vegas
Paris
Hard Rock
Flamingo
Riviera
Bill痴 Casino
Imperial Palace
Cannery
Eastside Cannery
Rampart Casino
O担heas
Green Valley Ranch
Texas Station
Palace Station
Fiesta Henderson
Fiesta Rancho
Las Vegas, Hilton
Santa Fe Station
Las Vegas Club
Aliante

Northern Nevada
Harvey痴
Harrahs Tahoe
Sivery Legacy
Harrah痴, Reno
Atlantis, Reno
Eldorad, Reno

Mesquite Nevada
Eueka Casino
Pennsylvania
Parx Casino
Harrah痴, Chester
Meadows
Rivers
SugarHouse

Atlantic City
Caesars
Showboat
Harrah痴, Atlantic City
Ballys, Wild West
Hilton

Canada
Casino, Windsor
Casino Niagara
Falls View
Brandtford

Delaware
Harrington Raceway

Connecticut
Mohegan Sun

Kansas
Prairie Band

Louisiana
Horseshoe, Bossier City
Sam痴 Town

Mississippi
Horseshoe, Tunica
Roadhouse Casino
Harrah痴, Biloxi
Grand Casino

Michigan
Greektown
MotorCity

Indiana
Horseshoe, Hammong
Horseshoe, So. Indiana
Majestic Star 1 & 2
Casino Aztar

Iowa
Argosy, Sioux City
Ameristar, Council Bluffs
Horseshoe, Council Bluffs
Harrah痴, Cponcil Bluffs
Diamond Joe Casino

West Virginia
Wheeling Island

Illinois
Rivers, Des Plaines
Harrah痴 Metropolois
Harrah痴 Joliet

Missouri
Isle of Capri
Ameristar, KC
Harrah痴, KC
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Tiltpoul
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November 2nd, 2011 at 5:30:07 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

This is a list (from hopbet.com) of casinos offering the FireBet. I don't know if it's current. I don't see a georgraphical distinction in Reno for example.



That seems right, although I would think Harrah's St Louis would have the bet too... I haven't played craps there, but they used to have "Monster Roll" promotions for "free" so it would seem that they could add that bet.
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November 2nd, 2011 at 7:03:46 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

This is a list (from hopbet.com) of casinos offering the FireBet. I don't know if it's current. I don't see a georgraphical distinction in Reno for example.

LasVegas
Rio
Harrahs, Las Vegas
Caesars Palace
Mandalay Bay
Planet Hollywood
Gold Coast
Ballys, Las Vegas
Paris
Hard Rock
Flamingo
Riviera
Bill痴 Casino
Imperial Palace
Cannery
Eastside Cannery
Rampart Casino
O担heas
Green Valley Ranch
Texas Station
Palace Station
Fiesta Henderson
Fiesta Rancho
Las Vegas, Hilton
Santa Fe Station
Las Vegas Club
Aliante

Northern Nevada
Harvey痴
Harrahs Tahoe
Sivery Legacy
Harrah痴, Reno
Atlantis, Reno
Eldorad, Reno

Mesquite Nevada
Eueka Casino
Pennsylvania
Parx Casino
Harrah痴, Chester
Meadows
Rivers
SugarHouse

Atlantic City
Caesars
Showboat
Harrah痴, Atlantic City
Ballys, Wild West
Hilton

Canada
Casino, Windsor
Casino Niagara
Falls View
Brandtford

Delaware
Harrington Raceway

Connecticut
Mohegan Sun

Kansas
Prairie Band

Louisiana
Horseshoe, Bossier City
Sam痴 Town

Mississippi
Horseshoe, Tunica
Roadhouse Casino
Harrah痴, Biloxi
Grand Casino

Michigan
Greektown
MotorCity

Indiana
Horseshoe, Hammong
Horseshoe, So. Indiana
Majestic Star 1 & 2
Casino Aztar

Iowa
Argosy, Sioux City
Ameristar, Council Bluffs
Horseshoe, Council Bluffs
Harrah痴, Cponcil Bluffs
Diamond Joe Casino

West Virginia
Wheeling Island

Illinois
Rivers, Des Plaines
Harrah痴 Metropolois
Harrah痴 Joliet

Missouri
Isle of Capri
Ameristar, KC
Harrah痴, KC




Just an FYI

The Meadows Casino, which is about 30 minutes west of Pittsburgh, Pa also has the FireBet. They are owned by the same company that owns the Cannery Casinos


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November 2nd, 2011 at 7:33:30 AM permalink
At least one of the casinos where I played recently in Reno had the Fire Bet. I am fairly sure it was the Eldorado, but it could have been the Silver Legacy -- I walked from one to the other via the mezzanine bridge and could have the tables confused. The table was idle as I arrived and after I left, and I spent some time talking with the dealers. They asked me whether I had ever played the Fire bet, saying they had very recently added it to their table. I told them I was familiar enough with it that I didn't want to put my money there. I'm thinking it was the Eldorado, because I'm remembering the Silver Legacy as having a lot more action on the table.

I think I also saw it at other Reno-area casinos, but since I wasn't placing that bet, I might be misremembering that.
DJTeddyBear
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November 2nd, 2011 at 7:39:59 AM permalink
Sorry to derail the thread somewhat...
Quote: Doc

... I told them I was familiar enough with it that I didn't want to put my money there.

While that's smart thinking, with the high house edge and all, the Fire Bet is the one side bet that I don't mind playing. For a very simple reason. All other side bets, it seems like you're doing nothing but feeding the beast: every 30 seconds, another buck. With the Fire Bet, it's only one bet, active for the duration of the shooter's turn.
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November 2nd, 2011 at 7:50:37 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

For what it's worth, there's no mention of it on their website: www.HopBet.com Then again, there's no mention of Hop Bets either, and with a name like that, you'd think...


The name presumably refers to the specific layout used for the Fire Bet which has all of the Hop Bets arrayed inside it for easy access (plus the World bets off to the side). Contrast with standard dice layouts where, above the Any-7 box, there is usually a large blank area for color-ups and other called bets. There are some design patents on the HopBet, Inc. layout configuration.
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