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August 15th, 2022 at 11:53:03 AM permalink
What are the odds of hitting a Place 6 AND Place 8 before a 7?

5 ways to roll a 6 and 5 ways to roll an 8. 10/16= 62.5% of hitting 1

What's the other part? If you pull down the first 6 or 8 that hits that leaves us with 5/11 =45.45%

So is the answer 62.5 times 45.45% = 0.28 or 28 percent of the time?
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August 15th, 2022 at 12:00:30 PM permalink
You have the same chance of hitting two 6's or two 8's as you do of hitting one of each. What are you going to bet on?

While I'm flailing around trying to hit a point of 10 for 20+ rolls, I might roll five 6's and five 8's or ten 6's and zero 8's. I've got to stick to my progressions somehow.
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August 15th, 2022 at 1:56:40 PM permalink
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What are the odds of hitting a Place 6 AND Place 8 before a 7?

5 ways to roll a 6 and 5 ways to roll an 8. 10/16= 62.5% of hitting 1

What's the other part? If you pull down the first 6 or 8 that hits that leaves us with 5/11 =45.45%

So is the answer 62.5 times 45.45% = 0.28 or 28 percent of the time?
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$10 table; $12 each on the 6 & 8; hit the 6 & 8 one time each; win $28; 7 out lose $24; net win = $4. Unlikely, in general, to do that all night. Could be a slow agonizing session with a net loss, but on the bright side, you could have some fun.

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August 15th, 2022 at 2:24:15 PM permalink
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What are the odds of hitting a Place 6 AND Place 8 before a 7?

5 ways to roll a 6 and 5 ways to roll an 8. 10/16= 62.5% of hitting 1

What's the other part? If you pull down the first 6 or 8 that hits that leaves us with 5/11 =45.45%

So is the answer 62.5 times 45.45% = 0.28 or 28 percent of the time?
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I agree with your analysis. 10/16 x 5/11 = 50/176. Or approximately 28.4%. Go for it!
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August 16th, 2022 at 11:15:28 AM permalink
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What are the odds of hitting a Place 6 AND Place 8 before a 7?

5 ways to roll a 6 and 5 ways to roll an 8. 10/16= 62.5% of hitting 1

What's the other part? If you pull down the first 6 or 8 that hits that leaves us with 5/11 =45.45%

So is the answer 62.5 times 45.45% = 0.28 or 28 percent of the time?
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I agree with your analysis. 10/16 x 5/11 = 50/176. Or approximately 28.4%. Go for it!
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So, is it a 28+% chance of winning $4 or what? Then what?

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August 16th, 2022 at 11:23:40 AM permalink
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What are the odds of hitting a Place 6 AND Place 8 before a 7?

5 ways to roll a 6 and 5 ways to roll an 8. 10/16= 62.5% of hitting 1

What's the other part? If you pull down the first 6 or 8 that hits that leaves us with 5/11 =45.45%

So is the answer 62.5 times 45.45% = 0.28 or 28 percent of the time?
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I agree with your analysis. 10/16 x 5/11 = 50/176. Or approximately 28.4%. Go for it!
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So, is it a 28+% chance of winning $4 or what? Then what?

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Then what? He asked a math based question. I gave a math based answer. But I have no idea where you came up with $4??
If he was betting the minimum ($6)I’ve ever seen on 6 or 8 he would have won $7 on each of the victories. So plus $14.
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August 16th, 2022 at 11:24:04 AM permalink
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What are the odds of hitting a Place 6 AND Place 8 before a 7?

5 ways to roll a 6 and 5 ways to roll an 8. 10/16= 62.5% of hitting 1

What's the other part? If you pull down the first 6 or 8 that hits that leaves us with 5/11 =45.45%

So is the answer 62.5 times 45.45% = 0.28 or 28 percent of the time?
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I agree with your analysis. 10/16 x 5/11 = 50/176. Or approximately 28.4%. Go for it!
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So, is it a 28+% chance of winning $4 or what? Then what?

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How exactly would you need to bet in order to win $4 from a place 6 and place 8?
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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August 16th, 2022 at 11:35:50 AM permalink
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$10 table; $12 each on the 6 & 8; hit the 6 & 8 one time each; win $28; 7 out lose $24; net win = $4. Unlikely, in general, to do that all night. Could be a slow agonizing session with a net loss, but on the bright side, you could have some fun.


My 4th grade math answer was quite clear. It assumed hitting the 6 and 8 before a 7 out. Hitting the 6 and 8 gives the player $28 followed by a 7 out where the house takes the $24 bet on the 6 and 8 netting the player $4.

If he was betting $6 each on the 6 and 8, yes, he would win $14, but a 7 out would take his $12 and leave him with a net of $2. Are you suggesting that he come down after the initial wins? The vast majority of players do not do that.

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August 16th, 2022 at 11:58:37 AM permalink
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$10 table; $12 each on the 6 & 8; hit the 6 & 8 one time each; win $28; 7 out lose $24; net win = $4. Unlikely, in general, to do that all night. Could be a slow agonizing session with a net loss, but on the bright side, you could have some fun.


My 4th grade math answer was quite clear. It assumed hitting the 6 and 8 before a 7 out. Hitting the 6 and 8 gives the player $28 followed by a 7 out where the house takes the $24 bet on the 6 and 8 netting the player $4.

If he was betting $6 each on the 6 and 8, yes, he would win $14, but a 7 out would take his $12 and leave him with a net of $2. Are you suggesting that he come down after the initial wins? The vast majority of players do not do that.

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OP said he takes down bet when it hits.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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August 16th, 2022 at 3:02:20 PM permalink
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OP said he takes down bet when it hits.


Really, where? Question was what are the odds of hitting the 6 & 8 before a 7? No mention of bringing down his bets.

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August 16th, 2022 at 3:07:15 PM permalink
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OP said he takes down bet when it hits.


Really, where? Question was what are the odds of hitting the 6 & 8 before a 7? No mention of bringing down his bets.

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Suspend for trolling please.

How about the sentence …. If you pull down the first 6 or 8 that hits…..

Just for shats and giggles, what point are you trying to make, tuttsi?
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August 16th, 2022 at 3:54:25 PM permalink
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OP said he takes down bet when it hits.


Really, where? Question was what are the odds of hitting the 6 & 8 before a 7? No mention of bringing down his bets.

tuttigym
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Suspend for trolling please.

How about the sentence …. If you pull down the first 6 or 8 that hits…..

Just for shats and giggles, what point are you trying to make, tuttsi?
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Cute, it's Mr. Tuttigym to you. Only my closest friends are allowed to call me by my first name, and you are not even in the neighborhood. Yep, I missed that. Now he infers placing the 5 & 9. So now a 7 out and he still has a net $4 win. BTW did anyone ever reconfigure your handle? Seems like that would be pretty easy. Just sayin'.

The "point" is that any bets left up or replaced are subject to the 7 which reduces the net win and the "math" never accounts for it.

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August 16th, 2022 at 4:02:55 PM permalink
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OP said he takes down bet when it hits.


Really, where? Question was what are the odds of hitting the 6 & 8 before a 7? No mention of bringing down his bets.

tuttigym
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Suspend for trolling please.

How about the sentence …. If you pull down the first 6 or 8 that hits…..

Just for shats and giggles, what point are you trying to make, tuttsi?
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Cute, it's Mr. Tuttigym to you. Only my closest friends are allowed to call me by my first name, and you are not even in the neighborhood. Yep, I missed that. Now he infers placing the 5 & 9. So now a 7 out and he still has a net $4 win. BTW did anyone ever reconfigure your handle? Seems like that would be pretty easy. Just sayin'.

The "point" is that any bets left up or replaced are subject to the 7 which reduces the net win and the "math" never accounts for it.

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He never asked or implied that what he was asking would result in a way to win! He asked a simple math question! All he asked is how often a certain event would occur; he presented his guess on the math (he was correct), and never wrote anything that would make you think he had some magic system.



I did ask to change my ‘handle’ but was given a flat out NO by my friend, the Wiz….

I’ll tell you what…. I’ll apologize for the tuttsi poke, but it was meant lightheartedly.
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August 17th, 2022 at 8:07:46 AM permalink
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He never asked or implied that what he was asking would result in a way to win! He asked a simple math question! All he asked is how often a certain event would occur; he presented his guess on the math (he was correct), and never wrote anything that would make you think he had some magic system.



I did ask to change my ‘handle’ but was given a flat out NO by my friend, the Wiz….

I’ll tell you what…. I’ll apologize for the tuttsi poke, but it was meant lightheartedly.


Thank you; quite gracious of you. Apology accepted.

Often times, conversations are the results of reading more into the posts than were intended by the OP. I did that. I have done it before and expanded the conversation or debate. That was my intention. The idea of the "odds" of something occurring does not always convert to the reality of play or that it can actually be performed at the table, so, for me, it was important to point out possible actual results that happen quite often.

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