Headlock
Headlock
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November 6th, 2019 at 4:44:40 PM permalink
Has anyone calculated how to hedge the all, tall, small bet? I normally bet $5 $5 $5. The all pays 175 to 1 so that is a significant win to me. I have been thinking about hedging if there is 1 number left to win.
FleaStiff
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November 6th, 2019 at 4:58:52 PM permalink
Sorry, these days I get lost at two plus two, but hearing that word 'hedge' can be like red fabric to a bull.
ChumpChange
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November 6th, 2019 at 5:12:47 PM permalink
Add $5 to your bets after every 50 shooters.
DeMango
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November 6th, 2019 at 5:23:04 PM permalink
Canít hedge the toughest numbers. So maybe 4/10 for $300 or 5/9 for same. Still have a $1050 payout, s or t + all
Lovecomps
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Thanks for this post from:
Forager
November 7th, 2019 at 9:19:06 AM permalink
You can hedge it perfectly by not betting it. The house edge drops to zero.
The best things in life are not free.
7craps
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November 7th, 2019 at 11:20:42 AM permalink
Quote: Headlock

I have been thinking about hedging if there is 1 number left to win.

at regular craps
waiting on the 2 or the 12 or the 3 or 11... betting the any 7 or a 3 way seven could get very expensive if the next roll is NOT a 7. Have seen this tried without much success


The alarming (to me) policy of allowing a player (Dealers and Boxmen)
to still make the ALL bet after the 1st number
has already rolled (at least in Nevada and SoCal) should be a clue to find this and exploit it.

could be very positive ev for the player
for 175 to 1
I get about a combined player edge (all numbers) of close to 0.354 (150 to 1 still over 0.15)
player edge when 1st roll is X
150 to 1(-0.206086681. betting before 1st roll)
Xedge
2,120.654246127
3,11 0.095520089
175 to 1 (-0.074644079. betting before 1st roll)
Xedge
2,120.928127936
3,110.276897588
4,100.088649563
5,90.010704738
6,8-0.026856835

this should be old news to most
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
DeMango
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November 8th, 2019 at 8:40:42 AM permalink
Quote: 7craps

at regular craps


The alarming (to me) policy of allowing a player (Dealers and Boxmen)
to still make the ALL bet after the 1st number
has already rolled (at least in Nevada and SoCal) should be a clue to find this and exploit it.

could be very positive ev for the player
for 175 to 1
I get about a combined player edge (all numbers) of close to 0.354 (150 to 1 still over 0.15)
player edge when 1st roll is X

this should be old news to most


Hopefully find a table that does this, thanks!

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