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90crapsplayer66
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October 24th, 2018 at 7:55:42 PM permalink
Craps Players,
Here's a situation that I think I know the answer to, but just want to double check with you experts. I'm playing a Dark Side strategy. I have started out by putting $15 in the Don't Pass. The Come Out roll is a 6. The puck goes to the 6. I lay $12 on my Don't Pass bet.

Next, I asked the dealer to put $5 in the Don't Come. Unfortunately the Come Out roll for that $5 DC bet, is again a 6.
So, my belief is that I lose both the Don't Pass bet with lay ($15 plus $12) and the $5 Don't Come because the 6 hit before the 7.

Am I correct on this point? Thanks for your clarification.

Dick
ThatDonGuy
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October 24th, 2018 at 8:17:12 PM permalink
If I am reading this right, you lose the Don't Pass, but the Don't Come is still active with a point of 6. The second 6 was, in effect, the come out roll for the Don't Come bet.
7craps
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October 24th, 2018 at 9:15:43 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

If I am reading this right, you lose the Don't Pass,

I agree. Craps 101
Quote: ThatDonGuy

but the Don't Come is still active with a point of 6. The second 6 was, in effect, the come out roll for the Don't Come bet.

the Dealer should move the DC to behind the 6 and ask if U want lay odds

the Dealer might even ask if you want "action on the don't 6"
most DC bettors do not want their DC to move behind the 6.
their choice actually

saves the Dealer back from a workout.
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90crapsplayer66
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October 24th, 2018 at 10:10:01 PM permalink
ThatDonGuy,
Thanks for your response. Your explanation makes sense. Like you said "The second 6 was,in effect, the come out out for the Don't Come bet.) I see the second 6 wipes out the Don't Pass bet, and at the same time, establishes a new point for the $5 Don't Come bet.
Thanks again

Dick
ChumpChange
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October 24th, 2018 at 10:17:59 PM permalink
WinCraps knows I'm doing a 5-count on the Don't Pass before I put down the PB 6 & 8. So half the time I win a 7-out or lose my bet before I finish the 5-count. Maybe the Place Bets are slowing me down?
90crapsplayer66
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October 24th, 2018 at 10:36:42 PM permalink
7craps,
Thanks for reinforcing ThatDonGuy's interpretation of my question. Now you bring up another issue: Are you saying that if the DC Come Out roll is a 6 or 8, I can ask the dealer to redo my Come Out roll in the hopes that I'll get a better point number, like 4 or a 10? --- or keep the number by saying "Action on the 6."

Thanks
Dick
7craps
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October 24th, 2018 at 10:43:49 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

WinCraps knows I'm doing a 5-count on the Don't Pass

only IF
you are running an auto-bet file would WC know that and take action against you.
I do not think there is one of those.

you seem to think WC tries to knock you down, from many other of your posts, but Steen did not program Wincraps to know how you are betting and destroy you.
Why would he?
It takes way too much time and effort to do that.

Steen has a life, so he has said, and does not make that much from WC
so he keeps it simple, in the code, that is.

Back to the OP...
"No action on the don't 6"
Used to get that one ALL the time with DC bettors.
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7craps
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October 24th, 2018 at 10:46:21 PM permalink
Quote: 90crapsplayer66

Now you bring up another issue:
Are you saying that if the DC Come Out roll is a 6 or 8, I can ask the dealer to redo my Come Out roll in the hopes that I'll get a better point number, like 4 or a 10? ---

exactly, yes
"No action on the no 6"
simple and done lots of times

not the best move math wise, but makes the DC player feel so much better
they hate to lose a DC6 or a DC8

you need not say anything to get a DC6
the dealer will move it automatically unless you have a habit of saying "no action"
also, tipping your Dealer to put up with your DC action is highly recommended
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100xOdds
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October 25th, 2018 at 8:43:07 AM permalink
Quote: 7craps

exactly, yes
"No action on the no 6"
simple and done lots of times

not the best move math wise, but makes the DC player feel so much better
they hate to lose a DC6 or a DC8

you need not say anything to get a DC6
the dealer will move it automatically unless you have a habit of saying "no action"
also, tipping your Dealer to put up with your DC action is highly recommended


and I would give you the $15 to transfer that $15 'dc 6' bet to me :)
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
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October 25th, 2018 at 1:51:06 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

and I would give you the $15 to transfer that $15 'dc 6' bet to me :)

I would make sure you already had an agreement with the other player as many Boxman (if they even exist anymore) will not allow it 'after the fact'.
And be ready for those to 'knock you down' LOL
after your DC6 or DC8 has been knocked down.Those bets lose a lot, even on average

"down behind the 6"
as a 6 just rolled
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