boymimbo
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January 18th, 2018 at 10:45:55 AM permalink
Quote: CAD2

You are trying to make a distinction between:
(a) someone who makes an offensive remark in a joking manner knowing it is offensive

and

(b) someone who makes an offensive remark in a joking manner but is ignorant said remark is offensive



ZK was not making fun of the Chinese. In fact, the cards that he questions are coming, preshuffled, from a Chinese manufacturer. His supposition is that the casino executives are employing the Chinese cardmakers and requiring them to deliver the cards preshuffled with low cards missing. His supposition is that the executives are not asking American card makers to do this because there might be a whistleblower who would explode this conspiracy.

And to be perfectly honest, the quality of Chinese goods are generally poorer than other goods made around the world. Just look at how many products from China have been recalled due to paint, tainted meat and dairy products, and manufacturing imperfections. This is due to using cheap labor and cheap materials. Manufactured products made in China are found cheaply in Walmart and Target and other department stores and are cheap and full of imperfections. My TV stand is made in China. The doors don't close on them because they did not make it to specifications. I've never had a problem on the dozens of furniture items that I've purchased over the years from a certain Swedish manufacturer.

Or you can read this: How "made in China" got a bad reputation.

So yeah, when some of us say "Chinese" dice, some of us actually mean inferior, and we have some evidence to back it up.
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boymimbo
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January 18th, 2018 at 10:46:56 AM permalink
Quote: cwazy

Wizard once did a Chi Square analysis to prove that a certain online casino was cheating. If I remember correctly, it was on Craps, and after something like 300 rolls he determined that the odds of those results being naturally occurring were astronomically high - hundreds of millions or billions to one. So it may take less than 10k rolls depending on your technique. Iíll have to look back and see if I can find the article.



You can't do Chi Squared testing based on 15 rolls. That's just wrong.
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Ibeatyouraces
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January 18th, 2018 at 10:47:40 AM permalink
What brand of cards are made in China?
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boymimbo
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January 18th, 2018 at 10:55:16 AM permalink
To bring this back on topic, that die is laying so close to the other one that it might have taken a gentle bounce off of the other one to bring its resting place on a corner.

And actually, there are odds to calculate this. You can calculate the odds of an unbiased die to lay on a certain axis. Obviously a perfectly cornered dice would have no probability of landing on a corner. But as the area of the corner surface increases, the odds of the dice coming to rest on that corner also increases. And given that a die has 8 corners and six sides there are 14 surfaces to consider. And heck if the edges get rounded too there's another twelve surfaces to consider.
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January 18th, 2018 at 11:43:42 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

You can't do Chi Squared testing based on 15 rolls. That's just wrong.



Careful, CAD2 may interpret the 'Chi' in 'Chi Squared' as being some sort of slang for 'Chinese' and go on another racist accusation rant.
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January 18th, 2018 at 3:01:23 PM permalink
Quote: 1MatterToMotion

Then what are the odds of both dice landing on a corner?



Very very low probability, near zero. Both dice would both need to be oriented so they land on a corner rather than on a side and the rotational torque on both dice would need to be a precise value with very small error bars otherwise the dice would continue to rotate off its corner.

The suggestion that there is a crease or gap in the felt on the floor of the chamber seems most likely to be the explanation.
Ibeatyouraces
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January 27th, 2018 at 2:05:15 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

What brand of cards are made in China?


I thought this was funny. Same brand, two different factories. You wouldn't expect this from a playing card company.

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January 27th, 2018 at 5:30:07 PM permalink
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I thought this was funny. Same brand, two different factories. You wouldn't expect this from a playing card company.



Company keeps a small US crew working in an outdated plant while shifting most production off shore.
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Ibeatyouraces
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January 27th, 2018 at 9:27:32 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I thought this was funny. Same brand, two different factories. You wouldn't expect this from a playing card company.



Company keeps a small US crew working in an outdated plant while shifting most production off shore.


Ok. But can you guess which one is rigged? 😂
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January 28th, 2018 at 7:12:12 AM permalink
Warning... There are more than a couple of F bombs in the video I'm about to link to... So don't watch it if that offends you.

Reading this thread reminded me of this scene.

https://youtu.be/GNGkHK8Umew
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