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Zcore13
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February 13th, 2019 at 2:46:41 PM permalink
I won't even bother quoting anything. You are wrong.


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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
Chigu
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February 13th, 2019 at 2:54:40 PM permalink
Fair enough. I will just let actual results speak for themselves. However, I do know it's a small sample size. I will update this thread periodically with actual results.
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February 13th, 2019 at 2:58:03 PM permalink
Chigu.... Welcome to the forum, sort of...... Having been here nearly a decade I can tell you NO ONE WILL BELIEVE YOU THAT YOU HAVE FOUND A BETTING STRATEGY/ SYSTEM TO BEAT CRAPS. So if you keep posting such, you will be continuously told that NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. Let's make believe we are all wrong and you are right..... Just keep going to the casino, make consistent money every day at the tables, and laugh at me every day you go make that deposit at the bank.
Chigu
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February 13th, 2019 at 3:12:15 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Chigu.... Welcome to the forum, sort of...... Having been here nearly a decade I can tell you NO ONE WILL BELIEVE YOU THAT YOU HAVE FOUND A BETTING STRATEGY/ SYSTEM TO BEAT CRAPS. So if you keep posting such, you will be continuously told that NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. Let's make believe we are all wrong and you are right..... Just keep going to the casino, make consistent money every day at the tables, and laugh at me every day you go make that deposit at the bank.



Thanks, appreciate the welcome.... sort of? lol

There is no SURE way of ever beating the casino! I just think there are ways to increase the chances. I am just going by the numbers to increase my chances. Yes every roll is independent of the previous roll and has an equal chance of occurring but if the odds are 1/6 for the 7, then there must be odds of 5/6 for hitting any other number instead of the 7.

Just to keep things on the up and up. THERE IS NO BETTING STRATEGY/SYSTEM to guarantee a win in ANY Casino game. However there are ways to increase your chances of consistently winning.

Take for example Credit cards that offer cash back rewards. People like myself and a bunch of others take advantage of this and don't pay a penny in interest because we pay off our balances every month (and get the cash back). So therefore we are a loss for the credit card company. However, on average more people carry a balance and pay the 18% interest then the ones that pay it off in full. I know it's not the same, but there are ways to game the system. Players like myself don't concern the casino because you won't make thousands of dollars with this system at all. IT may only be $30 here or $50 there etc.
SOOPOO
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February 13th, 2019 at 3:26:54 PM permalink
You seem willing to learn. THERE ARE NOT WAYS TO INCREASE YOUR CHANCE OF
C O N S I S T E N T L Y WINNING. Remember that.
There are certainly betting strategies that will increase your chance of a 'session' win. There are strategies to maximize variance while having as low a house edge as possible. If you include comps there may be times when you are playing with an edge (rare at craps). If you find a dealer that overpays you you are likely playing with an edge.
So my times playing craps..... Pass line with odds, come bets with odds..... I will win somewhere over 40% of the time, and lose somewhere under 60% of the time. There is a small house edge that eats away my bankroll, but the variance is high enough that I win often enough to make me want to come back. But I am under no illusion that after a win I have found a way to win consistently.
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February 13th, 2019 at 9:10:25 PM permalink
Quote: Chigu

The 'short game' is the only way to consistently win (and yes you can consistently win).



Quote: Chigu

I see the regulars every morning when I stop off ON THE WAY TO WORK to throw a couple.




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Yes, lets look at the math and then add some logic to what you just said.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Chigu
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February 13th, 2019 at 9:23:38 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK ON THE WAY TO WORK

Yes, lets look at the math and then add some logic to what you just said.



I never said it was a full proof strategy, and I am not a high roller that I could afford to quit my day job to do this. I just go to the casino to have a bit of fun and make money. Iíd rather win a little at a time knowing that I will miss out on huge rolls.

Just as an update I went after work today and had another winning session. Only $47 but thatís because u was on a $3 table and was practicing a new throw for that table that has been my nemesis.
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February 13th, 2019 at 10:07:50 PM permalink
Quote: Chigu

I never said it was a full proof strategy



fool proof ... or I will accept foolproof. Full proof has to do with theorems.

And if you're actually going to the casino to make money and not just for entertainment, then I suggest you request a lifetime ban form and fill it out.
boymimbo
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February 13th, 2019 at 10:17:44 PM permalink
All that a "stop loss" does is pause a session until the time you show up. Placing an across place bet of $32 carries a per roll edge of (-32/6+7*10/36+7*8/36+9*6/36)=(-192+70+56+54)/36=-12/36=$.3333/roll working.

Now for this System:

Odds of getting zero hits = 6/30. Lose 32
Odds of getting one hit = 4/5 * 1/5 = 4/25. Lose 25 on 3/4 and 23 on 1/4 (you still have your bets up)
Odds of getting 2nd hit and taking down = 16/25, let's see. Win 18 1/16th. Win 14 9/16 and win 16 6/16 (you take your bets down)

Add it all up. -1/5 * 32 - 4/25*(25*3/4+23*1/4)+16/25*(18/16+14*9/16+16*6/16)
= -32/5 - 98/25 + (18+126+96)/25
= -160/25 + (142/25)
=-18/25
= You lose $.72 on average per outcome for this strategy.
Which is a house advantage of 18/800 or 2.25%.

You'll have to forgive me if I am wrong but I am doing this calculation in my head (hence the long math).

As for your attitude in general it is absolutely foolish to believe that any system or strategy can overcome the sheer odds of a random crap roll.

Get out while you still can. The positive variance that you are experiencing is pure luck!
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February 13th, 2019 at 10:22:39 PM permalink
is chigu spanish for john Patrick????
get second you pig

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