eclectic
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June 19th, 2016 at 12:56:48 PM permalink
I was unable to locate an old discussion post about the IC Strategy where one bets at least 2 or 3 times more on the field. Poster said this was key.
I tried the search function several times but was unable to pull up the post. Can anyone help? Tks in advance.
GWAE
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June 19th, 2016 at 1:06:55 PM permalink
Key for what? Losing money quicker?
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whodat
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June 19th, 2016 at 4:41:11 PM permalink
I don't know the post but I believe the key is whether the field pays 2x or 3x on the 12. For 2x, the HE is 5.56% and for 3x, the house edge is 2.78%, which is better than placing the 5/9.

If you like the IC strategy, play it in a casino that offers 3x on the 12, and only play it when the point is 5 and you would have reduce the HE to the lowest possible.
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June 25th, 2016 at 2:43:03 AM permalink
Sorry, I originally read this concept on another forum. Thank you. Here's the post.

"That is about how a lot of pro gamblers will hit and run on the Craps tables. A 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 ratio 5,6,8 to field is the key. "
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June 25th, 2016 at 2:46:05 AM permalink
Pro gamblers? Shirley you jest!

Oh you must mean the bi - assed dice crowd on Craps Forum?
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June 25th, 2016 at 6:15:09 AM permalink
Iron cross is lame. Palladium cross is the new hotness.
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June 25th, 2016 at 6:47:34 AM permalink
Quote: sabre

Iron cross is lame. Palladium cross is the new hotness.



Is that the iron cross plus hop the 7s? It is a full proof way if never losing
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June 29th, 2016 at 6:58:15 AM permalink
whodat


I have had a hard time with the IC because I feel that when I hit a 5 or 6 or 8
and lose the field bet, I am taking away from the win on those bets.

I understand each bet is a separate contract or bet with the casino and the
win loss percentage is independent for each bet.

But I cant wrap me head around the idea.

We had a casino host here that played $600 on 6 & 8 and $200 on the field.
When he hit the field, he would use part of that to always press the 6 & 8.

He says he wins some large amounts and I have also seen him lose over
$30,000 at times

He does not play craps anymore lately, and I thought about it, he has been a
host for high betting craps players for 25 years and he has lost everyone
of the big guys, none of them play craps anymore, and he pushed the
IC on all of them.

I guess when the you get 3x on the twelve it is a better bet than the 5 & 9
and if there are lots of field numbers being hit, it is as good a bet as any.

It has just never been part of my game.

dicesetter
eclectic
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June 29th, 2016 at 9:01:14 AM permalink
Tks for everyone's comments. A comment and then a question. On the post above it was preceded by the following concept of betting the field.

$300 total on the 5-6-8 and $150 on the field. Hence, a 2:1 ratio of money on the 5-6-8 over the field. One hit and down. Now, under what conditions and circumstances that bet would be made I suppose is dependent on charting/watching the table.

Someone suggested a higher payout alternative to betting the field. Bet (for example) $64 across (4-5-6-8-9-10) plus a $4 horn for a total of $68 at risk. I believe the HE on the iron cross is 1.11%? So, I'm wondering what the HE is on this $68 bet? The payout is higher but what about the HE?
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June 29th, 2016 at 9:04:00 AM permalink
GWAE: Can you provide more details about the PCross and hopping the 7s strategy? And what about any 7 instead? Thank you.

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