lostinspace
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October 6th, 2015 at 10:14:04 AM permalink
Might anybody have an experience where they are aware of temperature changes in on the casino floor (and nearest the craps tables) affecting the influence of the outcome?

Might the table (s) get better-result-rolls when there is a draft from the air-cond? Or from the heat (it's too hot in here)? Or a short while after either of the aforementioned temp changes?
Might the table (s) offer negative results when the temperature are constantly changing (fluctuating up and down)?

Might one craps table in 'your' casino be more prone to these temp changes than the other tables in same casino?

Does in-house staff have the option of manually setting the temp in a specific area, or is the area and/or room temperature automated and beyond their control?
Might staff even have a clue as to the affect of such thing as compared to the 'margins' of their tables?
TwoFeathersATL
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October 6th, 2015 at 10:55:39 AM permalink
Hold onto your seat.
You are about to enter 'The Twilight Zone'. ;-) tee, hee...
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lostinspace
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October 6th, 2015 at 10:58:54 AM permalink
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Hold onto your seat.
You are about to enter 'The Twilight Zone'. ;-) tee, hee...



I guess a reply from 'Rod', is better than no reply at all ;)
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October 6th, 2015 at 11:19:35 AM permalink
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I guess a reply from 'Rod', is better than no reply at all ;)



Didn't want you to feel lonely, that's all.
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October 7th, 2015 at 1:51:49 AM permalink
Another dice conspiracy? Is this Harley again?
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October 7th, 2015 at 4:23:56 AM permalink
Quote: lostinspace

Might anybody have an experience where they are aware of temperature changes in on the casino floor (and nearest the craps tables) affecting the influence of the outcome?

Might the table (s) get better-result-rolls when there is a draft from the air-cond? Or from the heat (it's too hot in here)? Or a short while after either of the aforementioned temp changes?
Might the table (s) offer negative results when the temperature are constantly changing (fluctuating up and down)?

Might one craps table in 'your' casino be more prone to these temp changes than the other tables in same casino?

Does in-house staff have the option of manually setting the temp in a specific area, or is the area and/or room temperature automated and beyond their control?
Might staff even have a clue as to the affect of such thing as compared to the 'margins' of their tables?



What the hell. We might as well study this along with all the other theories.
lostinspace
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October 7th, 2015 at 7:34:08 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Another dice conspiracy? Is this Harley again?



I'm a noob to this forum and without clue as to whom Harley is.

Quote: RonC

What the hell. We might as well study this along with all the other theories.



There were 6-7 regular shooters at the table all day long, as well as randoms.
There were a few decent rolls, however for the most part the rolls were short and seven-ed out after a few numbers. The dice went around the table (seven-out) many, many times.
When the longer rolls took place they were (at least for the most part) consistent around the entire table (as were the previous seven-outs).
The successive rolls were just a lot fewer.

Given the experience (and previous success') of the regular shooters, what's the chances of 6 or 7 seven shooters having a bad day simultaneously? And everybody whining that the table is bad.
I've seen it happen frequently at this casino (especially this particular table), and it is either too cold or too hot (temp).
Heard two of the staff talking about setting the thermostat, and I inquired if it was automated or manual.

Personally, I attempted different table positions, different trajectories, different DI-sets, at one point even a hand (opposite) that I've not used in six months, and different motions.
All the above absent any consistent success, or unusually long rolls.

In summary, there must be some outside influence?
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October 7th, 2015 at 10:02:58 AM permalink
Quote: lostinspace

I'm a noob to this forum and without clue as to whom Harley is.



There were 6-7 regular shooters at the table all day long, as well as randoms.
There were a few decent rolls, however for the most part the rolls were short and seven-ed out after a few numbers. The dice went around the table (seven-out) many, many times.
When the longer rolls took place they were (at least for the most part) consistent around the entire table (as were the previous seven-outs).
The successive rolls were just a lot fewer.

Given the experience (and previous success') of the regular shooters, what's the chances of 6 or 7 seven shooters having a bad day simultaneously? And everybody whining that the table is bad.
I've seen it happen frequently at this casino (especially this particular table), and it is either too cold or too hot (temp).
Heard two of the staff talking about setting the thermostat, and I inquired if it was automated or manual.

Personally, I attempted different table positions, different trajectories, different DI-sets, at one point even a hand (opposite) that I've not used in six months, and different motions.
All the above absent any consistent success, or unusually long rolls.

In summary, there must be some outside influence?



Aaahhh! When the regulars spoke of a hot or cold table maybe they were not talking about the HVAC?
Welcome aboard mate!
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October 7th, 2015 at 10:42:10 AM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

Aaahhh! When the regulars spoke of a hot or cold table maybe they were not talking about the HVAC?
Welcome aboard mate!



Many thanks for the welcome.

I understand the difference in terminology as related to HVAC and the results-of-rolls. (I'm what might be considered a 'regular' and know (and talk with) many of the other 'regulars', thus there's not confusion when the actual temp is discussed vs., the results of the dice outcomes).
However, when players start shedding clothes and staff is discussing the room temp, than it's definitely HVAC-related.
Same when the air comes on (with a cold draft blowing on the table and players) and people mention that it's cold and start adding (or at least looking) garments.

Thus, perhaps the bulk of my question is!
How does room temperature affect the boards of the table surface, and how does that change affect the outcomes of dice throws?
Does the temperature change deaden the boards (regardless of hot or cold temps), at least until the boards have fully absorbed the temp change?
How long does it take for the boards to adjust to these temp changes.
Do the dies bounce less or more in colder or warmer temps?
TwoFeathersATL
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October 7th, 2015 at 10:50:24 AM permalink
Valid questions all. But I know not the answers.
Best of luck in your quest!
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