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blrieger
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May 21st, 2015 at 8:03:37 PM permalink
I was wondering if there is a way to calculate what the maximum bet is for laying odds on don't pass and don't come? I tend to have to ask the dealer what the maximum I found lay for each point. I know it depends on what max odds are at a table. (4x5x6x)
Any help would greatly be appreciated.
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May 21st, 2015 at 8:27:24 PM permalink
on a 3/4/5 table it is six times on any number.. you can win the amount that you can take on the do side.
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May 22nd, 2015 at 2:41:48 AM permalink
you do have to go through the process of figuring out what you would win max rightside, then that is what you lay darkside max.

4x will be 8x, that is, 4 * max line bet for rightside odds, that is, doubled to 8 * that bet [the 4 or 10 pays double on the odds]. That 8 * bet will be what you lay darkside.

5x will be 7.5x [if your bet is an even number] due to the 3:2 payoff on 5 or 9

6x will be 7.2x , 6:5 payoff = 1.2 factor * bet. I can see they will be very picky about what you can bet as 7.2 potentially makes difficult payoffs.
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May 22nd, 2015 at 10:04:02 AM permalink
I was at Moheghan Sun in CT, and the max odds are 5X. It just seems that each point has a different maximum, and I want to know how to figure what that is for each point without having to ask the dealer what the max you could bet. Some points the max was $45 and others it was $50.
Thanks
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May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22:28 AM permalink
Quote: blrieger

I was at Moheghan Sun in CT, and the max odds are 5X



as someone else mentioned, you could just pretend it is 3x4x5x and lay 6x every time for the simplicity
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May 22nd, 2015 at 10:27:08 AM permalink
Quote: blrieger

I was at Moheghan Sun in CT, and the max odds are 5X.
It just seems that each point has a different maximum,

then stop thinking that way
think this way...

the 5X for the don't lay odds is simple:
how much you can win MAX

again: think
HOW MUCH YOU CAN WIN

example
$10 flat bet
YOU CAN WIN $50

(sure the pass odds you can BET $50 but not win $50 but the dont,
how much do you want to win)
how much do you want to win
how much do you want to win
how much do you want to win
how much do you want to win

=============================
now how much to Lay to win $50 is different for each of the 3 point groups as the dealer has pointed out

$100 pays $50
$75 pays $50
$60 pays $50

can you figure out how much to Lay on the odds depending on the point established?

how much do you want to win
how much do you want to win
how much do you want to win
how much do you want to win
how much do you want to win
how much do you want to win
Quote: blrieger

and I want to know how to figure what that is for each point without having to ask the dealer what the max you could bet. Some points the max was $45 and others it was $50.
Thanks

another method

what you win on the pass odds
for the same bet
is what you Lay as the odds
===========================
so it is up to you on the method to use
and write it down so you have it

how much to bet if you want to win $50?
how much to bet if you want to win $20?
how much to bet if you want to win $10?

if it was easy, everyone and their grandma would be doing it
Mully

forgot to add this table
note the 0.5 on 5&9

they become the exception in many casinos

you go up to the next level in some casinos
some MAY only allow an extra $1 to be bet

have fun!
how much do you want to win
want to winLay this $ on Pt 4 or 10Lay this $ on Pt 5 or 9Lay this $ on Pt 6 or 8
5107.56
10201512
153022.518
20403024
255037.530
30604536
357052.542
40806048
459067.554
501007560
5511082.566
601209072
6513097.578
7014010584
75150112.590
8016012096
85170127.5102
90180135108
95190142.5114
100200150120
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blrieger
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May 22nd, 2015 at 12:53:01 PM permalink
Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I think next time I need to make smaller lay bets. At a $5 table I was doing multiple lay bets of $45 on don't pass and don't come. At one point I was up $100, then down $100. Ultimately I won $50.
blrieger
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May 22nd, 2015 at 1:00:44 PM permalink
One last thing. On that chart, does it matter what the flat bet is? I generally bet the minimum $5 as the flat bet.

Thanks
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May 22nd, 2015 at 1:10:15 PM permalink
Quote: blrieger

One last thing.
On that chart, does it matter what the flat bet is?
I generally bet the minimum $5 as the flat bet.

Thanks

only for the MAX you want to win

$5 bet * 5X odds to win = $25 you want to win

the $45 to win $30 on the 5&9, i guess, was because it is an easier bet for the casino to pay - called "pushing the odds" i hear.
you win $30 (Lay odds = $45) for a $5 bet and that = 6X odds
sweet!

nice they do that

i too have played at MoSun
i like that casino better than the Fox

Sally
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blrieger
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May 22nd, 2015 at 6:01:29 PM permalink
Ok, thanks. I appreciate it. I like Mohegan better than Foxwoods, although I hear CT is getting another casino to compete with Mass.
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