alexnuggets
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February 7th, 2015 at 2:38:04 AM permalink
I have always been confused when someone says they like to watch first to see if a person is a good shooter?

Since each roll is random, why is someone labeled a good shooter?
AxelWolf
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February 7th, 2015 at 4:52:35 AM permalink
Quote: alexnuggets

I have always been confused when someone says they like to watch first to see if a person is a good shooter?

Since each roll is random, why is someone labeled a good shooter?

Same reason people believe in BigFoot.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
SOOPOO
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February 7th, 2015 at 6:07:14 AM permalink
Quote: alexnuggets

I have always been confused when someone says they like to watch first to see if a person is a good shooter?

Since each roll is random, why is someone labeled a good shooter?



There are some people who believe that their shots are not random... that they have a skill to alter the probabilities away from the expected probabilities.
They are wrong, and I am willing to bet them that they are wrong.
There are expensive classes to teach people how to do this....
Johnzimbo
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February 7th, 2015 at 7:39:08 AM permalink
Saw a guy playing craps who looked like Bigfoot. He sevened out right away.
Greasyjohn
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February 7th, 2015 at 8:53:38 AM permalink
I heard that the Big 6 and 8 bets were incorporated onto the craps layout to accommodate Bigfoot. But I can't confirm this.
bigfoot66
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February 7th, 2015 at 8:56:51 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Same reason people believe in BigFoot.



Hey Now! Even us Sasquatch understand the nature of probability.
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bigfoot66
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February 7th, 2015 at 8:57:33 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

I heard that the Big 6 and 8 bets were incorporated onto the craps layout to accommodate Bigfoot. But I can't confirm this.



Personal insult!!!!!
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beachbumbabs
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February 7th, 2015 at 9:40:25 AM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

Personal insult!!!!!



GreasyJohn has been sentenced to 50 lashes with a wet noodle.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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February 7th, 2015 at 10:21:02 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

There are some people who believe that their shots are not random... that they have a skill to alter the probabilities away from the expected probabilities.
They are wrong, and I am willing to bet them that they are wrong.
There are expensive classes to teach people how to do this....



Will there be any "odds" given now or in the future for the "SOOPOO" challenge?

That would be pretty neat to get casino's to imbed your "bet" on the cloth and name it after you. What, a hundred or two tosses and beat the expected # 7's, seems easy enough to place the bet.

I think in a casino setting it would take odds at least as high as the ATS to attract gamblers. Casino's could run the bet on some of their empty tables with one dealer, good times.

Surely some of the dice school instructors would step up, it would be great advertising for their schools. hehe
Greasyjohn
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February 7th, 2015 at 11:13:40 AM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

Personal insult!!!!!



I'm sorry. I didn't mean to put a kink in your zipper.
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February 7th, 2015 at 11:24:17 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

GreasyJohn has been sentenced to 50 lashes with a wet noodle.



Can I request that you administer the punishment?
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February 7th, 2015 at 4:38:19 PM permalink
Quote: alexnuggets

I have always been confused when someone says they like to watch first to see if a person is a good shooter?

Since each roll is random, why is someone labeled a good shooter?



Someone needs to invent a fundamental theorem of craps players (with a nice proof). Not for the actual game itself. About the players.

I could rough it out, thus.

The average craps player has a truly massive amount of superstition.

I could come up with a second theorem, about how the average craps player doesn't have a clue about the odds, but I don't want to do another Ph.D. dissertation. Some graduate student in an anthropology department somewhere should do that (if they haven't already).

By the way, I noticed one guy in Las Vegas who had enough cleverness to just skip the entire "name the bet after me" process and just had the casino named after him. I admire the elegance of that.
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February 7th, 2015 at 7:14:35 PM permalink
A good shooter???
If I'm dark-siding a good shooter goes point-7.
If the force is with me a good shooter covers 3 points and all 6 numbers.

Moot point except for the sacred flow types.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
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February 7th, 2015 at 8:32:09 PM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

I heard that the Big 6 and 8 bets were incorporated onto the craps layout to accommodate Bigfoot. But I can't confirm this.


John,
I heard the same. Two people confirmed it on the internet, so it has to be true!
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February 8th, 2015 at 6:29:03 PM permalink
Since craps is the only game in the casino where the player physically gets to determine the outcome, sure we want to believe we can affect the outcome. Therefore good shooters are better than the general population.
If we didn't have this belief then there would be nothing to separate the good from the chaff. You might as well say the best shooter of all time would be a woman who never even played the game before.
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February 22nd, 2015 at 4:43:38 PM permalink
Back in the 80's I made regular visits to binions and I was using the dice set 7 for all my rolls. One time the dice passed to me and I suddenly noticed what looked like a skyscraper on the hard 6 and hard 8 the stack had to be at least 3 inches and it was all green chips. I didn't think much about it and proceeded to roll it was a long roll and I hit the hard 6 twice and the hard 8 once at the end of the roll they broke out yellow chips to pay this guy. I never knew who this guy was, but he did tip me $150 during that roll. I'm not flashy but when I started going to barona before they do that reshuffle when the dice passed to me some of the locals would blurt out this shooter can roll
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