CrapsGenious
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February 11th, 2014 at 6:33:54 PM permalink
I can not thank 7craps enough for assisting me in putting together the genius1MaxOdds file for wincraps pro. Since testing that file and running many simulations over the last few weeks, I was able to profit more than 10K at the craps table utilizing this betting strategy.

I do however incorporate "Hedging on the firebet" as a side bet that helped me get to that 10K.

for those who use wincraps pro, here is the file:


'===="Genius1maxodds-v2" important to set up WC
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $0 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window

If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Take Bet and Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = True :
Bet $5 on PassLine :
Bet $5 on Field :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Beginning new session
Then
Bet $5 on PassLine :
Bet $5 on Field :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $15 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'no place bets when come point >0
If Come4 > 0 Then Place4 = 0 EndIf
If Come5 > 0 Then Place5 = 0 EndIf
If Come6 > 0 Then Place6 = 0 EndIf
If Come8 > 0 Then Place8 = 0 EndIf
If Come9 > 0 Then Place9 = 0 EndIf
If Come10 > 0 Then Place10 = 0 EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 500
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
Bet $5 on Field :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 500 And Bankroll < 700
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
Bet $10 on Field :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 700 And Bankroll < 1000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
Bet $15 on Field :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 1000 And Bankroll < 1500
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
Bet $20 on Field :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 1500 And Bankroll < 100000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
Bet $25 on Field :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $5 on PassLine :
Bet $5 on Field :
Bet $15 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $5 on PassLine :
Bet $5 on Field : EndIf

: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 20000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf



In the config file of Wincraps pro, I adjust the dice probabilities to compare to my style of rolling:
2= 1.000, 3= 2.000, 4= 3.000, 5= 4.000, 6= 5.000, 7= 4.000, 8= 5.000, 9= 4.000, 10= 5.000, 11= 2.000, 12= 1.000

I need to add the firebet hedging to this if someone wants to help.

1) After 3 firebet points are made and 4th Point for the fire is established, Lay 120 on the point.
2) After 4 firebet points are made and 5th Point for the fire is established, Lay 750 on the point.
3) After 5 firebet points are made and 6th Point for the fire is established, Lay (Max Bet) on the point. (2000 on 4 or 10, 1500 on 5 or 9, 1200 on 6 or 8)

If any firebet number repeats, Lay 0 on the point.

Again, thank you to 7craps for making this happen.

For those of you who request more details:
1) I shoot from spot 12 (long end of the table)
2) Mini-v dice set after comeout roll using 4-6 up and 5's facing me. Tossing them flat toward the "Come" area.
3) On comeout I use the all 7 set adjusted (6-1 top and 5-2 facing me to roll 4,10's) (4-3 top and 5-2 facing me to roll inside numbers) (6-1 top and 4-3 facing me for outside numbers)

Primary numbers made mostly are 10's,Hard 10's, 6's, 5's & 9's along with a few 3 craps and Yo elevens)
8 more years till retirement.
odiousgambit
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February 11th, 2014 at 6:53:03 PM permalink
Quote: CrapsGenious

I adjust the dice probabilities



If you can do that at the Craps table, not just in Wincraps, tales of your genius will spread far and wide.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!”   She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
CrapsGenious
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February 11th, 2014 at 7:07:04 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

If you can do that at the Craps table, not just in Wincraps, tales of your genius will spread far and wide.



I'm not counting on this play to win 100% but so far I'm seeing better than 50%. In most cases those damn Point-7 games just happen to sneak in every once in a while lowering the average.
8 more years till retirement.
Buzzard
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February 11th, 2014 at 7:42:02 PM permalink
I believe this system will only work if you wear size 10 & 1/2 shoes.
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
Ibeatyouraces
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February 11th, 2014 at 7:42:45 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Buzzard
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February 11th, 2014 at 7:44:17 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

That's me!



Winner, winner, chicken dinner !
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endermike
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February 11th, 2014 at 8:03:46 PM permalink
Quote: CrapsGenious

In the config file of Wincraps pro, I adjust the dice probabilities to compare to my style of rolling:
2= 1.000, 3= 2.000, 4= 3.000, 5= 4.000, 6= 5.000, 7= 4.000, 8= 5.000, 9= 4.000, 10= 5.000, 11= 2.000, 12= 1.000



If you can make 33% of your sevens into tens, you should simply buy the ten.
CrapsGenious
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February 11th, 2014 at 8:38:34 PM permalink
Quote: endermike

If you can make 33% of your sevens into tens, you should simply buy the ten.

Funny you say that, just the other night I rolled 3 hard 10's and 2 regular 10's in a 15 number rolling streak and yes If I just place the 10 and press 50% I would have locked in close to 600 profit (25, 50, 100, 200, 400) instead of $175.

Funny thing is when I run a simulation of betting all the numbers across and pressing each 50% after a win still results in a negative outcome as compared to the "Place, come, down with max odds" approach. Less is more I guess.

Here is the file if anyone wants to try it themselves in wincraps pro


'==== "Genius2parlay"
'====use game/config to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
'====odds working cor or place bets adjust set action/autoplay
'place bets parlay needs to be defined in action/autoplay maybe auto w/ color correction
'or manual if you want a full parlay. you have to set what you want

If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Double" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $10 on Passline :
Bet $10 on DontPass :
Bet $1 on Twelve :

GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Beginning new session
Then
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $10 on Passline :
Bet $10 on DontPass :
Bet $1 on Twelve :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Or
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $15 on all(Outside Place bets) :
Bet $12 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $10 on Passline :
Bet $10 on DontPass :
Bet $1 on Twelve : EndIf

: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 20000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
8 more years till retirement.
superrick
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February 11th, 2014 at 9:48:06 PM permalink
Quote:

CrapsGenious
Here is the file if anyone wants to try it themselves in wincraps pro


As a CrapsGenious you should know that there hasn't been one system that has ever worked every time you go to the tables!

Have you ever thought of going into comedy, I think you're wasting your time with craps. You can make a killing by becoming a comedian! Casinos love system players, I'm sure you can come up with a lot of great material for your comedy act, because you surely have a few of us laughing at what you have been writing so far.

I don't care how many times you run it in Wincraps, having it work on a real craps table is a totally different story.


...
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...! You do good brada ..! superrick Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction http://procraps4u2.myfanforum.org/index.php ...
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February 11th, 2014 at 9:58:45 PM permalink
Quote: CrapsGenious



In the config file of Wincraps pro, I adjust the dice probabilities to compare to my style of rolling:
2= 1.000, 3= 2.000, 4= 3.000, 5= 4.000, 6= 5.000, 7= 4.000, 8= 5.000, 9= 4.000, 10= 5.000, 11= 2.000, 12= 1.000



Oh, you just change the probability of rolling a 7 from 6/36 to 4/36? Brilliant! You truly are a genious. What happens if you reduce it to 2/36?? Does it increase your winning even more?!?!?!? I'm on the edge of my seat here. Please elaborate.

Next time I'm at a craps table and a 3-4 comes up, I'm just going to politely remind the pit that on this roll, that die that appears to be showing a 3 should actually show another 6 based on my dice probability and should therefore be a 10, not a 7-out. I will then collect my wads of cash, skip out the casino, and move on to my next conquest using this system. Foolproof. Utterly foolproof.
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February 11th, 2014 at 11:34:41 PM permalink
Oh great a craps system to go with my gr8 bac system
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Beethoven9th
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February 12th, 2014 at 12:34:10 AM permalink
Quote: superrick

Have you ever thought of going into comedy...You can make a killing by becoming a comedian!

Quote: duckmankilla

Oh, you just change the probability of rolling a 7 from 6/36 to 4/36? Brilliant! You truly are a genious

Quote: djatc

Oh great a craps system to go with my gr8 bac system

LOL!!

+1, +1, +1

:D
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CrapsGenious
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February 12th, 2014 at 3:09:09 AM permalink
Ok, I take it back, I take it back. :D
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February 12th, 2014 at 4:01:29 AM permalink
Quote: CrapsGenious

Ok, I take it back, I take it back. :D



Surely you knew you'd be taking some flak considering the title you chose here. Your claim in fact is that you are pulling it off at real tables. I'm not going to study it further, but it seems your success, starting with $5 bets, is due to a combination of hedged fire bets and dice control. For the owner of this site that is probably grounds for being banned. For the rest of us, the inclination is to 'take shots.'

Although anybody with half a brain has to take such a claim advisedly, instead of taking a shot, I'll express my concern. I did note you took to Wincraps programming like a duck to water.

I'm happy for you if you are netting $10K a month playing Craps. You must be able to recognize that this cannot continue, and, worse, the fact that you could win that much means you could lose that much. Of course, if this is all fiction, no problem. But that you would even use the word "profit" says to me you have allowed the game to twist your mind. Maybe you have a need to just make wild claims. Maybe you have actually been lucky and that has had a bad effect. In either case, this is pretty disturbing.
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February 12th, 2014 at 4:09:20 AM permalink
The easiest way to beat craps is to not count the money you lose when it goes point, 7 out. That is just a cost of doing business so it shouldn't be reflected in your total win for the day.
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CrapsGenious
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February 12th, 2014 at 4:34:10 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

Surely you knew you'd be taking some flak considering the title you chose here. Your claim in fact is that you are pulling it off at real tables. I'm not going to study it further, but it seems your success, starting with $5 bets, is due to a combination of hedged fire bets and dice control. For the owner of this site that is probably grounds for being banned. For the rest of us, the inclination is to 'take shots.'

Although anybody with half a brain has to take such a claim advisedly, instead of taking a shot, I'll express my concern. I did note you took to Wincraps programming like a duck to water.

I'm happy for you if you are netting $10K a month playing Craps. You must be able to recognize that this cannot continue, and, worse, the fact that you could win that much means you could lose that much. Of course, if this is all fiction, no problem. But that you would even use the word "profit" says to me you have allowed the game to twist your mind. Maybe you have a need to just make wild claims. Maybe you have actually been lucky and that has had a bad effect. In either case, this is pretty disturbing.



Thank you sir, for the noble advise. I will classify future incomes at the craps table as "winnings" vs "Losses" with less emphasis on the latter.
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