Has anyone here played yet? If so, anything to report?
Also, the old Lady Luck thread bucket is gone, but a header for the Downtown Grand has not appeared yet. When it does, will it be under "D" or "G"?
Quote:COMING SOON! “Unprecedented.” “Unlike anything Vegas has ever seen.” “Crazy fun.” “Is this legal?” These are just some of the ways people have been describing Downtown Grand’s “Street Dice” experience. A custom Street Dice game on 3rd Street (yes, out in the open!) is the perfect bit of action for any gambler. No need to bring your own dice or flee when the heat shows up.
Still just not enough info to figure this out.
Quote: AyecarumbaThe new "Downtown Grand" is advertising a game called, "Street Dice" that is conducted outside the casino on 3rd street. However, the website has no other details.
I suspect it's nothing more than a play on words / gimmick.
O'Shea's used to have "Strip Poker". It was merely poker tables so close to the strip, that some player's chairs were actually outside.
At one time, the Sands had a Floating Craps game. http://www.lasvegassun.com/photos/galleries/1905/may/15/gaming/992/
Traditional Street Craps is in your knees, throwing against the side of a building. That can't be what they're doing.
I gotta think that this Street Craps is another gimmick where the table is at the door. Or maybe it is a craps table that actually is outdoors, on the sidewalk or even In the street with the road closed. But on a regulation table.
From:
Players make their basic bet, then throw the dice. Go ahead and set them if you like. The “wall” you’re shooting against is 10 feet away, so controlling the dice would be beyond impossible.
If you roll a 2,3 or 12 on the first roll, you lose your bet. A seven is a “push.” Only an 11 wins on the first roll (it pays even money).
If you roll something other than those numbers, the dealer marks the point, and you have three rolls to hit the number again. There’s a digital counter on the wall t
Payouts on the numbers, if hit, vary based upon which roll it is, first, second or third. For the numbers 4 and 10, hitting the number on the first roll pays 5-to-1, second roll pays 4-to-1 and third roll pays 3-to-1. For 5 and 9, hitting the number on the first roll pays 4-to-1, second roll pays 3-to-1 and third roll pays 2-to-1. For 6 and 8 (the most commonly-rolled numbers, after seven), hitting the number on the first roll pays 3-to-1, second roll pays 2-to-1 and third roll pays even money.
If you roll a seven (the most commonly-rolled number) after the point has been established, you lose your bet.
So, hit your point (win), “seven out” (lose) or fail to hit the point in three rolls (lose) and you start all over again.
1. if you don't roll a point within 3 rolls, it's another 7-out.
2. No odds.
3. No long rolls are possible.
4. No standard props.
5. Too big a house edge.
Let's slap it together and run it up the flag pole.
Event | Probability | Pays | Return |
---|---|---|---|
Come out 2, 3, 12 | 0.1111111111 | -1 | -0.1111111111 |
Come out 11 | 0.0555555556 | 1 | 0.0555555556 |
Come out 7 | 0.1666666667 | 0 | 0 |
Point 10/4, made on 1st roll | 0.0138888889 | 5 | 0.0694444444 |
Point 10/4, 7 on 1st roll | 0.0277777778 | -1 | -0.0277777778 |
Point 10/4, made on 2nd roll | 0.0104166667 | 4 | 0.0416666667 |
Point 10/4, 7 on 2nd roll | 0.0208333333 | -1 | -0.0208333333 |
Point 10/4, made on 3rd roll | 0.0078125 | 3 | 0.0234375 |
Point 10/4, not made on 3rd roll | 0.0859375 | -1 | -0.0859375 |
Point 5/9, made on 1st roll | 0.024691358 | 4 | 0.0987654321 |
Point 5/9, 7 on 1st roll | 0.037037037 | -1 | -0.037037037 |
Point 5/9, made on 2nd roll | 0.0178326475 | 3 | 0.0534979424 |
Point 5/9, 7 on 2nd roll | 0.0267489712 | -1 | -0.0267489712 |
Point 5/9, made on 3rd roll | 0.0128791343 | 2 | 0.0257582686 |
Point 5/9, not made on 3rd roll | 0.1030330742 | -1 | -0.1030330742 |
Point 6/8, made on 1st roll | 0.0385802469 | 3 | 0.1157407407 |
Point 6/8, 7 on 1st roll | 0.0462962963 | -1 | -0.0462962963 |
Point 6/8, made on 2nd roll | 0.0267918381 | 2 | 0.0535836763 |
Point 6/8, 7 on 2nd roll | 0.0321502058 | -1 | -0.0321502058 |
Point 6/8, made on 3rd roll | 0.0186054431 | 1 | 0.0186054431 |
Point 6/8, not made on 3rd roll | 0.1153537475 | -1 | -0.1153537475 |
TOTAL | 1 | -0.0502233844 |
Quote: ParadroidI'm getting a 5.02% HE.
Same here.
Event | Pays | Combinations | Pays*combos |
---|---|---|---|
CO Lose | -1 | 186624 | -186624 |
CO Win | 1 | 93312 | 93312 |
CO Push | 0 | 279936 | 0 |
4,10 win 1 | 5 | 23328 | 116640 |
4,10 win 2 | 4 | 17496 | 69984 |
4,10 win 3 | 3 | 13122 | 39366 |
4,10 lose | -1 | 225990 | -225990 |
5,9 win 1 | 4 | 41472 | 165888 |
5,9 win 2 | 3 | 29952 | 89856 |
5,9 win 3 | 2 | 21632 | 43264 |
5,9 lose | -1 | 280192 | -280192 |
6,8 win 1 | 3 | 64800 | 194400 |
6,8 win 2 | 2 | 45000 | 90000 |
6,8 win 3 | 1 | 31250 | 31250 |
6,8 lose | -1 | 325510 | -325510 |
Total | 1679616 | -84356 |
After that correction, I also calculated 5.0223384%, or 84356/364
Quote: PaigowdanI don't see this taking off, in spite of the increased payouts:
1. if you don't roll a point within 3 rolls, it's another 7-out.
2. No odds.
3. No long rolls are possible.
4. No standard props.
5. Too big a house edge.
I think the biggest problem is how frequently the basic bet loses. Sure, it often gets paid better than even money when it wins, but so many losses will drive players away.