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Ayecarumba
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November 11th, 2013 at 12:40:06 PM permalink
The new "Downtown Grand" is advertising a game called, "Street Dice" that is conducted outside the casino on 3rd street. However, the website has no other details.

Has anyone here played yet? If so, anything to report?

Also, the old Lady Luck thread bucket is gone, but a header for the Downtown Grand has not appeared yet. When it does, will it be under "D" or "G"?
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odiousgambit
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November 12th, 2013 at 4:31:31 AM permalink
http://www.downtowngrand.com/gamble/las-vegas-casinos.html

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COMING SOON! “Unprecedented.” “Unlike anything Vegas has ever seen.” “Crazy fun.” “Is this legal?” These are just some of the ways people have been describing Downtown Grand’s “Street Dice” experience. A custom Street Dice game on 3rd Street (yes, out in the open!) is the perfect bit of action for any gambler. No need to bring your own dice or flee when the heat shows up.



Still just not enough info to figure this out.
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DJTeddyBear
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November 12th, 2013 at 7:04:20 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

The new "Downtown Grand" is advertising a game called, "Street Dice" that is conducted outside the casino on 3rd street. However, the website has no other details.


I suspect it's nothing more than a play on words / gimmick.

O'Shea's used to have "Strip Poker". It was merely poker tables so close to the strip, that some player's chairs were actually outside.

At one time, the Sands had a Floating Craps game. http://www.lasvegassun.com/photos/galleries/1905/may/15/gaming/992/

Traditional Street Craps is in your knees, throwing against the side of a building. That can't be what they're doing.

I gotta think that this Street Craps is another gimmick where the table is at the door. Or maybe it is a craps table that actually is outdoors, on the sidewalk or even In the street with the road closed. But on a regulation table.
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fountainfiend
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May 15th, 2014 at 6:33:49 AM permalink
So, it looks like it is launching now. I have no interest at all in these rules... Any idea the HA?:

From:

Players make their basic bet, then throw the dice. Go ahead and set them if you like. The “wall” you’re shooting against is 10 feet away, so controlling the dice would be beyond impossible.

If you roll a 2,3 or 12 on the first roll, you lose your bet. A seven is a “push.” Only an 11 wins on the first roll (it pays even money).

If you roll something other than those numbers, the dealer marks the point, and you have three rolls to hit the number again. There’s a digital counter on the wall t

Payouts on the numbers, if hit, vary based upon which roll it is, first, second or third. For the numbers 4 and 10, hitting the number on the first roll pays 5-to-1, second roll pays 4-to-1 and third roll pays 3-to-1. For 5 and 9, hitting the number on the first roll pays 4-to-1, second roll pays 3-to-1 and third roll pays 2-to-1. For 6 and 8 (the most commonly-rolled numbers, after seven), hitting the number on the first roll pays 3-to-1, second roll pays 2-to-1 and third roll pays even money.

If you roll a seven (the most commonly-rolled number) after the point has been established, you lose your bet.

So, hit your point (win), “seven out” (lose) or fail to hit the point in three rolls (lose) and you start all over again.
Dween
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May 15th, 2014 at 8:27:50 AM permalink
I calculated the HA at 5.288947%, or 88834/364
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Paigowdan
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May 15th, 2014 at 8:46:39 AM permalink
I don't see this taking off, in spite of the increased payouts:

1. if you don't roll a point within 3 rolls, it's another 7-out.
2. No odds.
3. No long rolls are possible.
4. No standard props.
5. Too big a house edge.

Let's slap it together and run it up the flag pole.
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Paradroid
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May 15th, 2014 at 9:20:51 AM permalink
I'm getting a 5.02% HA.
EventProbabilityPaysReturn
Come out 2, 3, 120.1111111111-1-0.1111111111
Come out 110.055555555610.0555555556
Come out 70.166666666700
Point 10/4, made on 1st roll0.013888888950.0694444444
Point 10/4, 7 on 1st roll0.0277777778-1-0.0277777778
Point 10/4, made on 2nd roll0.010416666740.0416666667
Point 10/4, 7 on 2nd roll0.0208333333-1-0.0208333333
Point 10/4, made on 3rd roll0.007812530.0234375
Point 10/4, not made on 3rd roll0.0859375-1-0.0859375
Point 5/9, made on 1st roll0.02469135840.0987654321
Point 5/9, 7 on 1st roll0.037037037-1-0.037037037
Point 5/9, made on 2nd roll0.017832647530.0534979424
Point 5/9, 7 on 2nd roll0.0267489712-1-0.0267489712
Point 5/9, made on 3rd roll0.012879134320.0257582686
Point 5/9, not made on 3rd roll0.1030330742-1-0.1030330742
Point 6/8, made on 1st roll0.038580246930.1157407407
Point 6/8, 7 on 1st roll0.0462962963-1-0.0462962963
Point 6/8, made on 2nd roll0.026791838120.0535836763
Point 6/8, 7 on 2nd roll0.0321502058-1-0.0321502058
Point 6/8, made on 3rd roll0.018605443110.0186054431
Point 6/8, not made on 3rd roll0.1153537475-1-0.1153537475
TOTAL1-0.0502233844
miplet
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May 15th, 2014 at 9:26:58 AM permalink
Quote: Paradroid

I'm getting a 5.02% HE.


Same here.
EventPaysCombinationsPays*combos
CO Lose-1186624-186624
CO Win19331293312
CO Push02799360
4,10 win 1523328116640
4,10 win 241749669984
4,10 win 331312239366
4,10 lose-1225990-225990
5,9 win 1441472165888
5,9 win 232995289856
5,9 win 322163243264
5,9 lose-1280192-280192
6,8 win 1364800194400
6,8 win 224500090000
6,8 win 313125031250
6,8 lose-1325510-325510
Total1679616-84356
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Dween
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May 15th, 2014 at 9:42:02 AM permalink
Bah, I only added the results for 4, 5, and 6, but not 8, 9, and 10.

After that correction, I also calculated 5.0223384%, or 84356/364

-Dween!
YouCanBetOnThat
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May 15th, 2014 at 10:49:35 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

I don't see this taking off, in spite of the increased payouts:

1. if you don't roll a point within 3 rolls, it's another 7-out.
2. No odds.
3. No long rolls are possible.
4. No standard props.
5. Too big a house edge.


I think the biggest problem is how frequently the basic bet loses. Sure, it often gets paid better than even money when it wins, but so many losses will drive players away.
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